What If We All Went on Welfare......

For the purpose of creating as big a family size as the typical Hispanic seperatist does? I'm saying this because many patriots cannot afford a larger family size working a regular job...while many of those wishing to overthrow us are receiving welfare and breeding like rabbits. Of course, those who have great jobs and don't need to do this shouldn't resort to this. I know it would be a strain on us....but what if we too, cried "poormouth" and got on public welfare so we too could all have large families? The benefit would be that we have more patriots to help fight against the ferals. It's just a thought, but would it work? At least we'd get some of the money back that we give in taxes....or would it sink the economy that much faster? Just wondering, what does everybody here think? (BTW I'm not married and old-fashioned...I have no prospects of having a family at all right now....) Good idea? Bad idea? What does everyone think?

I am tooooooooo ancient to have a larger family, why don't we just end payments to anybody who can not PROVE they are looking for work or who turn down any job. My city is paying dearly to cut grass for abandond homes, why don't we just make the welfare recipiants show up to do this kind of manuel labor?

Sacredrage, I certainly grasp the sentiment of your post, I've heard it angrily threatened by many. First in fighting the ferals, we have the greatest military in the world but our government does not see this as a hot war or, unfortunately, a cold one, based upon their inaction.

Welfare costs someone money, usually taxpayers or benevelent organizations. If we got into competitive breeding and a war did not come to control population growth, in a few years even more jobs would be required to employ these people created from spite.

I tend to personally believe that over population of the world now has a minor part in all this. Children in Africa starve to death daily. Provided that there is enough food and/or wealth to provide for these folks, I do not believe the compassionate organizations of the world would allow that.

New world leadership, including in U.S., needs to be someone that can think forward adequately to solve, or at least offer sensible solutions to major problems existing worldwide. I do not see that in any American leaders today. (Where the hell is HST when he is sorely neededd.)


All that said, I will say that welfare begins at home and we do have to do a better job of taking care of ours to beccome strong enough or wealthy enough to care for others.


I will be glad to see responses, listen to opinions, accept criticism, exchange ideas.

Liberals want all of us on welfare...Government checks are government control over everyone..Not just the recipient of my tax monies...
Next they want your gun for food stamps?
Or give you a hundred bucks to spy on me! Can you be bought too?

This country's back is broke, welfare and unemployment benefits are running on fumes.
And millions will be losing their unemployment benefits soon and jumping on the "Gravy Train"

"Communism" does not work it is a proven fact, and the whole "Gimme' Generation" will fail.

'A government big enough to give you anything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.' - Thomas Jefferson

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Originally Posted by kevinssdad

I will be glad to see responses, listen to opinions, accept criticism, exchange ideas.

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My plan is simple as far as the welfare issue is concerned. Instead of welfare checks and food stamps, those in need can pick up "care packages" of filling, nutritious, but not exciting or particularly tasty food. The only choices or exception will be based on medically proven allergies. Housing will be provided, but those in need of the housing will be limited in items they can own as well as income limits. One small tv, no computers, car must have a max value of 2k, one car per family. Anything of value must be sold prior to qualifying for housing assistance. Failure to comply would include mandatory jail time plus reimbursement of entire amount of government aid given. Any able bodied member of the family on aid, who is not employed, over the age of 16 must do community service work such as maintaining parks, mowing the lawns of abandoned houses ect. Illegals applying for aid for their anchor babies will be given transportation to their country of citizenship. They will be given the option of taking the anchor babies with them or extingueshing parental rights so the children can stay and be adopted.

Also, anybody who is currently on government aid would have their voting privileges suspended until the time they are no longer receiving aid.

There is very little, if anything, suggested to date on this thread that I would take major issue with if enacted today.

That acknowledged personally I believe that we have had to much action and reaction in America for two generatins without thinking. That thinking should include how does this bill if it become law affect our country tomorrow, next year, next decade, next generation,


I've had enough of "gore anyone's ox except mine." I've had enough of what do I have to promise to get elected, I'll flip-flop next time if necessary to get re-elected. The House of Representatives was never intended, by Constitution, to be a Chamber of professional politicians. We need leaders that are willing to sacrifice personal glory for the betterment of the country.


Does anyone else see or desire same?

OK, OK, bad idea. I was just thinking if I have to pay for my enemies to have children why not pay for my side...but yeah, you're right about the job need, resources being strained, etc. And I really don't wish to live in a country jam-packed tight with people like sardines, even when we wind up winning this war in the end and the only Hispanics remaining in the U.S. are those who are real Americans.

Don't worry airdale, nobody is going to "buy off" THIS American to sell you or any other patriot out!! You're talking to someone who has a conscience and believes we'll all have to account for how we lived at the end of our lives....unlike the majority of our politicians.

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Originally Posted by sacredrage

OK, OK, bad idea. I was just thinking if I have to pay for my enemies to have children why not pay for my side...but yeah, you're right about the job need, resources being strained, etc. And I really don't wish to live in a country jam-packed tight with people like sardines, even when we wind up winning this war in the end and the only Hispanics remaining in the U.S. are those who are real Americans.

Don't worry airdale, nobody is going to "buy off" THIS American to sell you or any other patriot out!! You're talking to someone who has a conscience and believes we'll all have to account for how we lived at the end of our lives....unlike the majority of our politicians.

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sacredrage and all other participants of this thread: I hope that this thread does not end quickly with just this much discusssion. One idea that is not well thought through or hastily offered can lead to solutions. Probably none of us individulallyhave the answers, but reasonalble minds working openly with others sometimes creates good ideas out of not so great ones, Frankly, I was elated to see this thread started, and sacredrage, thank you.

I have a problem with welfare queens, both legal, illegal and all ethnicities that have a lot of children and basically are getting paid to produce more dependents. It seems that the system is set up to pay per child instead by household and some of these women have 5 or 6 children before they are 25 years old.

I am concerned for the millions of people that are running out of unemployment benefits that really can't find jobs that will lose their homes. Of course that will make more homes available for redistribution. I have an acquaintance in Nevada that is in this position and because of his age, over 50, finding employment after being laid off has been impossible. This person has been force into bankruptcy and is trying to short sell his home. In the past two weeks he has had 3 offers, all three offers are from Chinese Nationals and all are for cash.

Most of the other homes in his gated neighborhood have been purchased by buyers using the HUD program that gives people $50,000.00 in a grants to buy a home called First Look and most of those buyers receive government assistance.

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Originally Posted by kevinssdad

sacredrage and all other participants of this thread: I hope that this thread does not end quickly with just this much discusssion. One idea that is not well thought through or hastily offered can lead to solutions. Probably none of us individulallyhave the answers, but reasonalble minds working openly with others sometimes creates good ideas out of not so great ones, Frankly, I was elated to see this thread started, and sacredrage, thank you.

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You're welcome, kevinssdad! ;D Well everyone, what other ideas can you think of?
And remember that we are potentially being watched by enemy lines who are looking to see our strategy.

We also need to stay on topic....how to keep the numbers of American patriots high so that in the future should the other side try physical warfare on us, we'll have the numbers to fight back and win. I can think of one thing: resist the temptation to date/marry Hispanics and others who do not share your basic values. I've seen too many Americans romancing Hispanics who actually wish for the American partners to reverse-assimilate to Latino culture and speak Spanish! Done enmasse this is a threat to our culture nationwide, as the American gives up his/her culture on U.S. soil (shouldn't happen unless the American moves permanently out of the U.S. to another nation)and any children produced have the potential of seeing themselves as less than 100% American and/or being anti-American. If you must have a Hispanic love, make sure they have assimilated, call themselves American first, speak only English in public, etc. And that goes for any race, of course.

Another thing is that we all need to DEMAND an end to textbooks in schools that make all white American people out to be inherently racists because of the sins of former white American generations...as well as the textbooks that discourage assimilation into our nation's culture and discourage speaking English in public....and we need to get rid of "diversity" (I'm not talking about eliminating different people groups in the U.S., I'm talking about the focus on what what we don't have in common instead of what we do have in common)....this pits the races against each other instead of seeking out unity (which makes the country strong). No two immigrants are exactly alike (and that's OK) but we have a shared public language, basic cultural values and a flag of our own regardless of our race or where our ancestors came from. Only Native Americans/native Alaskans/native Hawaiians have a right to be different than everyone else, since they alone were here first and everyone else came from immigrant stock-and they should not be encouraged to feel hostile either. And we need textbooks which say more positive things about being an American instead of that which tears at our fiber as a collective whole.

I've reviewed the entire thread, attempting to pick highlites and common complaints among the group. Things that we seem to believe commonly. The other criteria I used to qualify is "Is it possible for us to do anything about it?"

Those are:
Cost of welfare.
Unity thru emphasis of common culture.
Education thatinstills knowledge & promotes unity.
Naturally we have also secure borders to add.

General opinion of my own on several of these as items of debate (welfare, education) are revolving topics and will return often due to changing times, and they should always be in forefront of American politics. I've always championed that American taxpayer dollars provided for only American citizens as a hand up not a hand out. Education has disappointed me since they handed my son Kevin a calculator in the fourth grade to do math lessons with with. From there, approximately 40 yrs. ago, it has been lowering standards consistently. Yes, I remember my education teaching me loyalty to and pride in my county..

Common culture is a challenging subject at first glace, However in one instance I remember that my german speaking grandmother polished up her english skills when it became obvious that all her grandchildren were only learning english. Might be a very good suggestion there about multiple languages in schools.


Unity by reversing trends may be difficult, however necessary, because America is very fractured over me and mine first. Somewhat a b-product of showing favortism, i.e. by causing schools to teach in two languages brings on naturally egotism and selfishness. Then the rest say if they are favored I deserve to be favored also. So, in a strange way we have to repeat history in reverse.

And, the big one, border control and NO amnesty of any flavor for aliens. Here at this site, no extra comment necessary from me here.

IMO. that is a very good snapshot of the ills of our nation. Unforunately, it is IMHO also a snapshot of our Congress. Hmmm, ...... Your turn, group.

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Originally Posted by kevinssdad

......Your turn, group.

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Drug testing welfare recipients should take care of half or more of them!

kevinssdad, while there's nothing wrong with the ability to speak two or more languages I feel schools should offer a wide variety to CHOOSE from, and I am against the concept of "bilingual" schools that force a foreign language that one may not be interested in learning upon them. And it's hard enough learning certain subjects in English without having to learn them in another tongue also! And the vast majority of Americans across most ethnic lines prefer one shared language for public usage, instead of the current feeling that you live at an international airport....people speaking different languages, walking past with no eye contact and inside their own insulated bubble. What I'm talking about is....lack of a sense of community and a lack of cohesion as far as an "we're all in this thing together" feeling-which is important to a nation.

As far as culture (besides language) goes, like I said, no two American immigrants are exactly alike...you can usually tell the difference between an Italian immigrant, a Ashkanazi Jewish immigrant and an English immigrant, for example.....but their collective experience as Americans overshadows their differences....I can be around any of them and feel like I'm with my own countrymen, in other words. Contrast that with an immigrant who totally keeps their culture and speaks another language in public and I feel the polar opposite. Black and white Americans are a little different from each other culturally, but it's almost the same as regional differences in the U.S. (differences in Midwestern, Northern and Southern cultures, etc.) And both blacks and whites have had their cultural aspects form here in the U.S., so both are American in culture. But we ALL speak English in one way or another, we all have basic cultural values in common, and we all share the same flag. The latter is what we need to focus on in regards to unity.

I for one..being AMERICAN, a selfish, RESPONSIBLE individual WILL CHOOSE by MY conscience who, whom, or WHAT MY PERSONAL PROPERTY will be used for!
Whether covering, MY, MY LOVED ONES asses, or someone else's.
MY CHOICE....NO ONE else's!
Anything else is COMMUNISM, SOCIAL JUSTICE, B.S.
I am very giving and helpful to improvement.
If I have the MONEY that is mine to contribute with!
Most Americans feel the same way....I pray.
The damn government needs to stay the hell out of our way and let the private individuals fix what Political hack treasonous dirt bags have screwed up for decades!
It IS OUR DAMN MONEY! NOT THEIRS!
And MINE is NOT EVERYONES!!!