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    White House: We値l Give Away This Priority To Sign A DACA Bill

    White House: We値l Give Away This Priority To Sign A DACA Bill

    ED MORRISSEYPosted at 10:01 am on September 12, 2017




    Remember when Donald Trump promised his immigration-hardline supporters that they would get tired of all the winning? Good times, good times. Not only has Trump extended the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program and pushed Congress to make it permanent, the White House announced that it won稚 push funding for the border wall as a trade-off over concerns it might derail DACA.


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    White House legislative affairs director Marc Short told reporters on Tuesday that President Trump would not demand that border wall funding is tied to a legislative fix for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA).

    Speaking at a roundtable event hosted by the Christian Science Monitor, Short said the administration didn稚 want to 澱ind itself by making a demand that would likely be a nonstarter for many lawmakers.

    展e池e interested in getting border security and the president has made the commitment to the American people that a barrier is important to that security, Short said. 展hether it痴 part of DCA or another legislative vehicle, I don稚 want to bind us into a construct that would make the conclusion on DACA impossible.


    Let that one sink in for a moment. The Department of Justice has already announced that DACA-related actions won稚 be a priority even if the program somehow manages to expire. Trump himself assured DACA recipients that there will be 渡o action! after Nancy Pelosi urged him to do so on Twitter.

    Even with all of those assurances of non-action in place, the White House values a DACA deal so much that they have pre-emptively taken Trump痴 biggest promise of the election cycle off the table in order to get it. Now, perhaps there was a chapter in Art of the Deal that most missed, but taking big asks off the table before negotiations begin in earnest does not seem to be the path to 努inning so much that we値l get sick of winning. So much for the nationalists and populists, eh?

    This cave goes beyond the nationalist-populist base, however. There are conservatives, myself included, who see a statute-based DACA as a rational policy, albeit shorn of work permits. It makes little sense to deport teenagers who have lived most of their lives in the US after being brought here illegally by parents, but that痴only true if border security is enhanced enough to prevent more from coming across in response to the incentives DACA establishes. Without effective border security in place, DACA will end up being a magnet for illegal entry just the same as employers willing to overlook eligibility in favor of low labor costs.

    Short insists that the Trump administration is still super serious about the wall:

    典he president is not backing off a border wall, he said. 典he president is committed to sticking by the commitment that a physical structure is needed.whether that is part of a DACA package or another package, I won稚 prejudge that today, but he痴 committed to getting that wall built.


    Riiiiiiight. In terms of leverage, Trump had no better bargaining chip than DACA to get Democrats to approve border-wall funding. It wouldn稚 have involved a government shutdown, and would have forced Democrats to vote against DACA to stop a relative pittance of federal funding for a wall that still remains broadly popular among most voters. What will Trump have left for leverage the federal budget? After his deal last week with Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, Trump痴 already signaled he doesn稚 have the stomach for a shutdown. As stupid as the debt-ceiling fight is, Trump痴 also given that one away too.

    The big question will be how Trump supporters will spin this cave as a victory when the time comes. Presumably this one won稚 make any liberals cry, nor will it cause tears to form from the eyes of Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell, who will welcome the chance to make Trump own DACA. I知 sure we値l hear all about the pony in the room as soon as enough shoveling takes place.

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    Many things will be tried in this 6mth time to pass an amnesty for dacas. trump did the wrong thing - he just should have ended as unconstitutional and not added the 6 mths to fix or he will. That is NOT ending daca but giving it a viable life line - almost in like flint.
    Numbers usa has a call to your senators action -

    'Before the end of the month, the Senate will vote on the "must-pass" National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). This legislation is required each fiscal year to authorize the Department of Defense and establish its annual budget. It should NOT be used as a vehicle for an amnesty for illegal aliens.
    Since this legislation is viewed as "must-pass", pro-amnesty Senators could see it as an opportunity to add a DACA amnesty to the bill.
    Call your two U.S. Senators and urge them to oppose any efforts to add the DACA amnesty to the National Defense Authorization Act.'
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    Trump didn't say he would fix it, he said he would revisit the issue, the issue is the deportation schedule for DACA's. That's in place to start March 6, he might depending on what is or is not happening review the date deportations start. Say a bill is being voted on March 5th, and it fails, the DACAs could whine, but I thought it was going to pass so I'm not ready to leave and need more time, maybe he gives them 30 days extra to remove themselves or be deported. He's not going to reinstate the program, he just might and I emphasize might give them a little extra time to leave, depending on what if anything was going on in Congress.
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    Judy wrote (excerpt):

    Trump didn't say he would fix it, he said he would revisit the issue, the issue is the deportation schedule for DACA's.
    That's speculation on your part. Nothing was said in the tweet about a deportation schedule. In reality, none of us really know what he meant.

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    LOL!! It was speculation on your part to say he would "fix it", too. He didn't say he was going to "fix it", he said he would revisit the issue, the issue they were talking about was the DACA deportation schedule that would start in March.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    LOL!! It was speculation on your part to say he would "fix it", too. He didn't say he was going to "fix it", he was he would revisit the issue, the issue they were talking about was the DACA deportation schedule that would start in March.
    Once again, nothing was said in the tweet about a DACA deportation schedule (those are your words). He just said he would revisit the issue if the Congress failed to give him a DACA (DREAMER) amnesty bill.

    As for your "fix it" comment, you must be mistaking me for someone else because I didn't say his tweet said anyting about fixing anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Once again, nothing was said in the tweet about a DACA deportation schedule (those are your words). He just said he would revisit the issue if the Congress failed to give him a DACA (DREAMER) amnesty bill.

    As for your "fix it" comment, you must be mistaking me for someone else because I didn't say his tweet said anyting about fixing anything.
    That's what you get for sticking your nose into someone's conversation with someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    That's what you get for sticking your nose into someone's conversation with someone else.
    Huh??? To my knowledge these forums are open to all. An apology for leveling a false accusation at me was all that was necessary. If you want to have a personal conversation with someone, PM them. There is no expectation of privacy on an open forum.

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    Once again, nothing was said in the tweet about Trump fixing it.
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    An email from Numbers USA - no link ...trump has totally caved to those running the WH now.....

    Is President Trump backing away from his pledge to put American workers first? Comments from the White House's director of legislative affairs, Marc Short, seem to suggest so.
    Short told reporters yesterday that passing a legislative amnesty for DACA recipients remains a top priority for the White House, and they may even be willing to pass on key legislative priorities, including border security, to make the amnesty a reality.
    "I don't want us to bind ourselves into a construct that makes reaching a conclusion on DACA impossible."

    -- WH Director of Legislative Affairs Marc Short
    Since announcing his candidacy, Pres. Trump has bucked the view widely held by national elites that the country needs more immigration and an amnesty for illegal aliens.
    He doubled-down on his promise last month when he stood beside Senators Tom Cotton and David Perdue and offered his endorsement of the RAISE Act -- legislation that would end Chain Migration and the Visa Lottery and replace employment-based green cards with a merit-based system.
    As a candidate, I campaigned on creating a merit-based immigration system that protects U.S. workers and taxpayers -- and that is why we are here today...

    This legislation demonstrates our compassion for struggling American families who deserve an immigration system that puts their needs first and that puts America first.

    -- Pres. Trump, August 2, 2017
    He referenced the RAISE Act again in his public statement after announcing an end to DACA.
    But Short's comments seemingly contradict Pres. Trump's support for the RAISE Act and his "America First" promises. If Short's comments reflect the actual position of the White House, it would be a complete sell out to Pres. Trump's base and the voters who helped elect him.
    Here's the statement Roy issued to the press in response to Short's comments:
    White House Director of Legislative Affairs Marc Short's comments today raised grave concerns about a seeming willingness to accept a DACA amnesty without much of anything to mitigate the harm that all amnesties bring. There was no sign of insisting on the E-Verify mandate that would be required for Congress to avoid finding itself with millions more young-adult illegal immigrants clamoring for yet another amnesty a few years from now. Nor was there a sign of memory of Pres. Trump's recent insistence that chain migration of extended family needs to end. Unless it does, an amnesty giving lifetime work permits to DACA recipients would balloon from hundreds of thousands to millions for their extended family through endless chains of migration. Short's compassion seems entirely for foreign citizens here illegally with not a nod for struggling American workers.

    -- NumbersUSA President Roy Beck
    CONTACT THE WHITE HOUSE
    Please contact the White House TODAY and tell Pres. Trump not to turn his back on the voters by signing a DACA amnesty!
    There are three ways you can contact Pres. Trump:
    1) Call the White House -- (202) 456-1111

    Call the White House comment line at the number above and leave a message for Pres. Trump. In your message, express your outrage over Marc Short's comments and remind him that he was elected because he opposed amnesty and promised to put American workers ahead of illegal aliens and foreign workers.
    2) Send a written message

    Click on the link above to send a personal message to the White House through its online email form. In your message, be sure to reference Marc Short's comments and remind Pres. Trump of his pledge to put American workers ahead of illegal aliens.
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