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02-23-2007, 08:03 AM #11
Thanks, MK! That's neat. Guess what? She went to the school library yesterday and checked out a book on a president for the report. She left the book at school. I asked her which president the book is about........she can't remember.
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02-23-2007, 09:17 AM #12
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Originally Posted by mkfarnam
That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free; and the Executive Government of the United States, including the military and naval authority thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of such persons, and will do no act or acts to repress such persons, or any of them, in any efforts they may make for their actual freedom.
Slavery was not abolished in the US until the passage of Amendment XIII, which was not ratified until some eight months after his death. The amendment was authored and submitted by Senator John Brooks Henderson of Missouri, and its lawful passage is debatable given that the former Confederate states were required to vote in favor of passage, as they were with Amendment XIV.
Without the Civil War, slavery would have been an outmoded institution by the 20th century as new farming machinery and changing public opinion would have led to its natural demise. A minority of Confederates (about 5%) were actual slaveowners, and many Confederate states, such as Texas, had already outlawed the trading of slaves.
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02-23-2007, 09:50 AM #13Originally Posted by CrocketsGhost
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02-23-2007, 09:55 AM #14
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Dang one or two of you guys started to make me nervous there for a second allmost fearfull that we wernt talking about Presidents to third graders Men of respect (ture leaders that had life changing issue on there hands). But then I was reminded of a speach a man gave that had been geting children great Grades for over 100 years. And all fear was gone.........
Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth upon this continent a new nation: conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war. . .testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated. . . can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war.
We have come to dedicate a portion of that field as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate. . .we cannot consecrate. . . we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember, what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here.
It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us. . .that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion. . . that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain. . . that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom. . . and that government of the people. . .by the people. . .for the people. . . shall not perish from the earth.
Sounds like Ike and guys like him won my kids a Honest Abe A+
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02-23-2007, 10:07 AM #15
They all have life changing issues on their backs because "the pen is mightier than the sword.
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02-23-2007, 11:28 AM #16
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Originally Posted by GREGAGREATAMERICAN
Sorry, Greg, but I reserve the tag of "greatness" for people who didn't crap on the Constitution and get drunk on the blood of their fellow citizens for the sake of maintaining the flow of tax revenues to their industrialist buddies.
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02-23-2007, 12:38 PM #17
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As all children write reports to gain a good grade in any of our Great American Schools, I can offer some advice to any parent that is faced with the dilemma of the topic of the reports title, or to any parent that has any questions about how the report will be graded.
1. Children must write the report, we can offer our help, but we can’t influence their opinions.
2. We must encourage our children to leave out any bigotry, racial discriminations, and biases or use any opinions that projects narrow mindlessness that could be construed as chauvinistic.(our schools and its teachers do not tolerate this) not to say it doesn’t go on but, they refuse to accept it. As parents we must stand behind them on issues such as this.
3. American History can be procured in many deferent ways but our younger children aren’t writing a report about misconceptions or philosophies of our great government.
4. We must encourage them to leave out pipe dreams.
5. We must discourage in them the use of a skill or ability used in a way that is considered unworthy to gain a better grade.
We must remember our children are like a chunk of clay and are easily swayed to opinions that others may find offensive and insulting no matter how it intelligent the opinions sound. As we all look forward to our child’s higher education we must remember they are our children. Sometimes adults act in a way that is like their little brothers or sisters and those actions/comments smell worse then their diapers.
Greg A great American
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02-23-2007, 12:52 PM #18
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Originally Posted by LegalUSCitizen
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02-23-2007, 12:52 PM #19
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Originally Posted by LegalUSCitizen
I sure hope not too!!
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02-23-2007, 01:04 PM #20
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Originally Posted by GREGAGREATAMERICAN
I notice that you did not challenge a single fact I provided about the tyranny of Lincoln. So I guess that tyranny is fine so long as it is wrapped in the cloak of patriotism? I don't think that a peron who would believe such a thing is a great American at all. As a matter of fact, I think that most of the people I would consider great Americans (but who never had the gall to call themselves that) would find such a mindset beneath contempt. But that's just my educated yet humble opinion...
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