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    I've sent this missive over to Mr. Hawkins for help on our research here...

    Mr. Hawkins, some of our volunteer researchers are analyzing your article about Donald Trump and we have a few questions for you.

    First, can you cite your source for your claim that Donald Trump supports or supported Dream Act Amnesty and Comprehensive Immigration Reform amnesty?

    Such positions would require us to include him as a target for removal from public office on our Cantor List, but we have not found that information before now.

    Second, are the Twitter comments you are citing comments made by Trump or made by others on his Twitter account? Is Trump the person with editorial responsibility for those comments or others?

    As America's only active political action committee rating candidates based on their support or opposition of amnesty for illegals, we take this task very seriously and would appreciate more information from you as we consider a response to your article about Trump.

    Let me know,

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    Trump told Kessler that the Republicans must develop comprehensive immigration reform “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful, productive citizens of this country.”
    http://www.investors.com/trump-backe...#ixzz3vyeClKO8

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    ouch, this article by the amnesty supporter owned NewsMax is pretty damning of Trump. I am open minded to the possibility that Trump has grown or evolved on this issue after Coulter's book and after going through the socialist firewall reaction to his deportation promises, but yes Trump was on the other side of this debate from us a few years back!

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    Donald Trump: Mean-Spirited GOP Won’t Win Elections


    By Ronald Kessler | Monday, 26 Nov 2012 01:07 PM



    Ronald Kessler reporting from Washington, D.C. — The Republican Party will continue to lose presidential elections if it comes across as mean-spirited and unwelcoming toward people of color, Donald Trump tells Newsmax.

    Whether intended or not, comments and policies of Mitt Romney and other Republican candidates during this election were seen by Hispanics and Asians as hostile to them, Trump says.

    “Republicans didn’t have anything going for them with respect to Latinos and with respect to Asians,” the billionaire developer says.

    “The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” Trump says. “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.”


    Romney’s solution of “self deportation” for illegal aliens made no sense and suggested that Republicans do not care about Hispanics in general, Trump says.

    “He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump says. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,” Trump notes. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.”

    The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,” Trump says.

    Looking ahead, Trump says his top-rated NBC show “Celebrity Apprentice” is now shooting its 13th season.

    Trump says his Trump National Golf Course on 600 rolling acres along the Potomac River is “by far, the best golf course in the tri-state area.” He bought the historic Old Post Office on prestigious Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington to remake it as a luxury hotel, and it doesn’t stop there.

    “I just bought the Ritz-Carlton Golf Club and Spa in Jupiter, Fla., which is a phenomenal area,” Trump says.

    Regardless of who is president, it will be a good year for Trump. This New Year’s Eve, Donald will be celebrating at Mar-a-Lago, his Palm Beach home and club, which admits Jews and blacks despite the exclusionary policies of some other Palm Beach clubs, as outlined in my book “The Season: Inside Palm Beach and America’s Richest Society.”


    Last New Year’s Eve, some 750 guests put on formal wear and sipped Louis Roederer champagne. Hors d’oeuvres included fois gras seared to order, caviar dished lovingly onto blinis, risotto with white truffles, colossal-size cocktail shrimp, and oysters on the half shell.




    The band Party on the Moon kept the Mar-a-Lago pavilion rocking as guests donned party hats they found at their tables. Even Trump’s usually reserved wife Melania, a stunning former model, sported a black paper top hat.

    Trump says that contrary to his image on “The Apprentice,” he really doesn’t like to fire people. Norma Foerderer, Trump's top aide for 26 years, confirms that and says there are two Donalds: the “outrageous” one portrayed on television and the real one only insiders know.

    “I mean, Donald can be totally outrageous, but outrageous in a wonderful way that gets him coverage,” Foerderer says. “That persona sells his licensed products and his condominiums. You know Donald’s never been shy, and justifiably so, in talking about how wonderful his buildings or his golf clubs are.”

    The private Donald Trump, on the other hand, is “the dearest, most thoughtful, most loyal, most caring man,” Foerderer says. That caring side inspires loyalty and is one of his secrets to success.

    As noted in my story The Real Donald Trump, when Foerderer began working for Trump as his secretary in 1980, he had been operating his business out of his limousine but had just opened an office across from the site of what became Trump Tower. Foerderer — who became a vice president — found that he had no files. He kept everything in his head. His lawyer kept copies of contracts.


    Now Trump is worth $3.1 billion, according to Forbes magazine.

    How did he do it?

    “By being intelligent and by understanding real estate,” Trump says simply.

    Foerderer, who was in charge of almost everything from public relations and hiring and firing administrative personnel to negotiating book deals and advertising contracts, says it’s a bit more complicated than that. To others who want to succeed like Trump, she says they must have a vision and a goal.

    “Think about what you want to do, love it, and if you love it enough, you’ll realize your dreams. That’s what Donald's done.”

    Pamela Kessler contributed to this article.

    Ronald Kessler is chief Washington correspondent of Newsmax.com. He is the New York Times bestselling author of books on the Secret Service, FBI, and CIA. Read more reports from Ronald Kessler — Click Here Now.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    Judy, I know you are a big Trump fan. But please be reasonable here. You know, and I know, and everyone here knows that "Secure the Borders First" is the mantra of the Open Borders pro amnesty lobby.

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    Oh yes I know that. Didn't you see the tape of Ted Cruz's testimony under oath subject to perjury in 2013 supporting border security first? I'll find that one for you and post it here in case you missed it. Ted Cruz was a US Senator Donald Trump was just a citizen trying to offer some advice. Ted Cruz was an elected official and member of the US Senate charged with responsibility to solve this illegal immigration problem.

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    William wrote (excerpt):

    The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,” Trump says.
    How is "comprehensive policy" any different than comprehensive immigration reform (amnesty)? In my view it's not.

    Romney’s solution of “self deportation” for illegal aliens made no sense and suggested that Republicans do not care about Hispanics in general, Trump says.
    I thought it made a lot of sense. I strongly support attrition through enforcement in addition to deportation! We won't have to deport 20 to 30 million if we make their life so miserable that they won't want to remain.
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    Cruz In 2013 On Providing Legal Status To Illegal Immigrants

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    Ted Cruz Testimony On Increasing Illegal Immigration



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrNWwgx5Cus
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    I support mass deportation because in my opinion from studying this issue for over 10 years now, their presence is used as a tool of politics, while being the primary lure of more illegal immigration because family, friends, drug cartels, and so forth come here because they already have a "safe zone" here to hide and work in through the homes, work places, churches schools, neighborhoods and territory claimed and controlled by illegal aliens who are already here,

    Donald Trump is the only candidate who understands that. And he understands the whole problem much more now as a candidate for President of the United States who if elected would be responsible for solving this Number One Issue, and there's no doubt at all that he is the only one with the guts to do it and the humanity to do it right. And yes, of course, the illegal aliens will be made to pay for the cost of their deportation.

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    BACK ON TOPIC:

    If Donald Trump didn't support DREAMERS, in some way, why would he have a meet and entertain them in his private office two years ago?

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarras...aid#.bjVwOJJ38

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    BACK ON TOPIC:

    If Donald Trump didn't support DREAMERS, in some way, why would he have a meet and entertain them in his private office two years ago?

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarras...aid#.bjVwOJJ38
    You know why. This topic has already been discussed ad nauseum. He met with them because someone he was meeting with about an Annual Hispanic Award that would promote his Miss Universe Pageant showed up with these kids asking to be legalized as if he had anything to do with it. I think they wanted money but he didn't send them any and there was no follow up either.

    But hey! Thanks for the second attempt with the same hit piece on our Republican Front-Runner.

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