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    Why are Mexicans fleeing Mexico?

    Why are Mexicans fleeing Mexico? Its not hard to figure out. Consider this amazing fact. As recently as 30 years ago, Mexicans were averaging -- AVERAGING! -- an astounding SEVEN babies for EVERY Mexican woman. Not surprisingly, this incredibly irresponsible over-breeding has had a ruinous effect on Mexico. And their solution? For all the excess millions of people that they no longer have space for to come flooding into America and start doing the exact same thing here. And there are liberal pundits in America who somehow tell us that is OUR responsibility to take them in. To which I can only say: I DON'T THINK SO. Mexican-Americans aren't quite as bad, they're "only" averaging 4 babies per couple. But that is still disastrous. Its TWICE the birth-rate of the rest of America. Two babies per couple is considered the ideal for a sustained population, you only reproduce yourself with no net gain. 4-per-couple DOUBLES the population with every generation. What was 20 million quickly becomes 40 million quickly becomes 80 million quickly becomes 160 million. So you can see how quickly this gets out of hand. Its called "exponential growth." Not only is the population growing, but the RATE that its growing is growing . Its a disaster, folks, as I'm sure almost everyone at this site realizes. The liberal "solution" is a piece of nice-sounding hooey called "Smart Growth." Let me put it this way: Smart Growth didn't work in any of the countries these people are fleeing from, and it sure won't work here. Rick Oberlink of the Sierra Club put it best: "Unrestrained never-ending growth is the sign of a cancer not a healthy organism. Smart Growth makes about as much sense as Smart Cancer."

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    And their solution? For all the excess millions of people that they no longer have space for to come flooding into America and start doing the exact same thing here.
    We already have four legged rabbits here, we don't need two legged ones.
    If you lived in Mexico, wouldn't you want to flee??????
    http://www.alipac.us Enforce immigration laws!

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    macho primativeness

    In Chile, we dont have this problem. Being a catholic nation, we do agree, yes the bible says be fruitful and multiply but at the same time, the bible also says to be responsible and not to be stupid. I have noticed from what mexicans I know(I try hard not to associate with most of the primative mexicans), it is a macho thing to have a lot of kids. Hell, in their home towns after their wedding nights(when they first have sex with their wives who they believe are virgins), they take the bloody sheets off of the bed and hang it on the door for everyone in the village to see. Tell me, if this is not primative. People wonder why us south americans cannot stand to be grouped with these people.

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    yeah we seriously can't keep doing this militant breeding thing. As a huge animal and nature lover, I can only feel like we are ruining everything. Mother Nature will show us who's boss eventually, i'm afraid.

    You know in the early 80's Isaac Asimov said that the overpopulation crisis the most pressing concern for the human race and that it's crushing wieght was/is being felt all over the world, particularly in China, India and Mexico. He also said the wars of the future will be over fresh water, not oil.

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    Here's an article that says the optimal world population would be about 1 billion :
    Zero growth is too high

    The problem is not the world economy, it's world population, which has doubled in the last 50 years... The Zero Population Growth campaign of the 1970s was misguided in one respect: zero growth is too high, we need a reduction!
    I think we need to worry less about growing the economy and more about reducing population... The smaller the population, the less the economy needs to produce in terms of goods / services... But all we ever hear is how we need to grow the economy in order to reduce poverty.

    What's needed is a World Population Treaty, which binds participants to work towards the eventual goal of reducing world population to 1 billion, and, as a first step, to bring forward as close as possible the magic date on which world population ceases to increase and starts diminishing.
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    I was thinking the same thing mummy

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    I have noticed from what mexicans I know(I try hard not to associate with most of the primative mexicans)
    Sonali you come all the way to the US to be a bigot?Chile is pretty damn primitive and if it's so good there why are you here?And in case you didn't know it there's no difference to a lot of Americans in a Mexican or a Chilean,they both are Spanish speaking from another country.

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    Like to see where the stats of the Mexican American families average 4 kids comes from-it's BS.As far as fleeing,for many it's more like a superlong commute with.Fleeing is not how someone would describe sending most of their income to and going back to as often as every month for some.Take advantage of,invade,saturate,yes these all apply.You flee a fire,flood,advancing army etc.Kinda hard to flee with those average 7 kids in tow.

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    Sonali--Based upon what I am finding in the research, Mexicans are not fleeing Mexico. They are coming here deliberately supported and encouraged by the Mexican Government to re-take the Southwest Territory of the United States. This does not apply to all Mexicans that came here from Mexico many years ago. This applies to the recent deliberate invasion for political purposes, NOT economic.

    Read the new article I just posted and it describes the whole process; the objective of the massive illegal migration; and then you will know the threat to the United States.

    Also, Sonali, do you have statistics on the 7 children average in Mexico and the 4 children average in US for Mexican families? Any source at all or is this observation. The reason I ask is I'm trying to construct a simple model to determine how many illegal aliens are in the US today.

    I've estimated 50,000,000 based upon normal US population. We have an extra 50,000,000 people here as of the 2000 census and the updates as of 2004.

    There are 7,200,000 tax returns filed by aliens. I've used a 4 total household figure to determine how many people these returns represent. If 4, man, woman and 2 children on average, then this is 28,000,000 that have actually filed tax returns. There may be some singles, younger workers that have not married yet. So let me know if you have something anything that we can go to to find an average family or "household" to work on this number.

    Then of course you would have to add all those that do not file tax returns and I'm using 1:1 ratio. For every family that does file a tax return, there is at least 1 that doesn't.

    That would mean there are 56,000,000 illegal aliens imbedded within the United States population with allegiance for a foreign government.

    This includes all nationalities, not just Mexicans and Hispanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickesteves
    I have noticed from what mexicans I know(I try hard not to associate with most of the primative mexicans)
    Sonali you come all the way to the US to be a bigot?Chile is pretty damn primitive and if it's so good there why are you here?And in case you didn't know it there's no difference to a lot of Americans in a Mexican or a Chilean,they both are Spanish speaking from another country.
    Excuse me, have you lived in Chile. Do you know what it is like. I am just using chile as a comparison to mexico and some of the ways of thinking of some of the mexicans. Did I say that all mexicans were primative. no! I got your message and I was appauled. My boyfriend is mexican. by the way chileans dont speak spanish. They speak castilian which is a proper spanish dialect. There is a big difference. Most people who have been there know. I am not wasting my time fighting with you. I have been voicing my opinions about how I feel the americans are being wronged by the mexican groups(la raza etc) My post said primative mexicans which did not include all mexicans.

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