Thread: Why You Should Resist the National ID Card

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Why You Should Resist the National ID Card

Prison Planet | September 16 2005

This piece focuses on the introduction of the British national ID card but the same principles can be applied in any country.

1) A government engaging in escalating criminal actions and becoming more and more secretive should not be watching and tracking us as if we're all criminals. The same goes for CCTV surveillance. That's not freedom. Would you let a convicted murderer and pedophile watch your child 24/7?

The often peddled mantra of 'why should you care if you have nothing to hide?' is manifestly ridiculous in light of the fact that we have a government that has everything to hide and yet we're the ones under suspicion.

Should it concern us that our government shredded hundreds of thousands of documents before a 1st January Freedom of Information deadline? Why should the government care about freedom of information if they have nothing to hide?

But they did care enough to order this mass shredding.

We are told by the government to make our lives completely transparent or go to jail while the government itself becomes more secretive than ever before.

Why should they know everything about me when they won't tell me anything about them?

Would you walk up to a gang of criminals and give them your credit card and PIN number?

2) The government told us that the ID card would make our information more secure. Blair said this would protect, not infringe our liberties. And how did they propose paying for it? By selling the information of 44 million British citizens to private companies. How secure is that?



3) As a perspective on how governing powers use ID cards, consider the fact that residents of Fallujah in Iraq were finger scanned, given retina scans and ID cards just to be able to leave and enter the village. Every citizen is treated as a potential insurgent and is given an ID card. Is that how our government views us all, as potential insurgents?

So, what do you have to hide? is the wrong question. The question should be, why does the government need to know everything about me?

4) ID cards will not stop terrorism. Even the Home Secretary Charles Clarke admitted it after the London bombings. In addition, the Blair government has been caught faking terror alerts to push through increased power. Firstly in the case of the Ricin plot that never was and also an attack on Canary Wharf which was admitted to be totally scripted. Furthermore, the so-called London bombing mastermind was an MI6 asset. Reams of evidence point to the bombings being an inside job, one of the purposes of which was making British people accept ID cards. Large scale terrorist atrocities worldwide always lead back to government perpetrators. In this instance it is important to recall Herman Goering's quote,

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."




5) Top criminologists have gone public to say that ID cards will actually result in an increase in identity theft, not a decrease as the government claims.

6) The introduction of the national ID card is one step further towards the mandatory implantation of ID chips in all British citizens. Does this sound outlandish? Implantable chip technology has been in existence for a decade and discussions on ID chipping humans is in the news regularly. Tommy Thompson, the former Health and Human Services Secretary in the Bush administration, had a chip implanted and is now touring the country lauding the virtues of ID chips. During the the confirmation hearings for John Roberts Jr., George W. Bush's nominee for Supreme Court chief justice, Roberts was questioned by Senator Joseph R. Biden on whether he would rule against a mandatory implantable microchip to track American citizens.

7) The purpose of government is to serve the people, not control them. Any scheme of national registration is alien to the basic fundamental principles of a supposed free country.

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Related: Say No To National ID

This great song from renowned British artist Ian Brown is a well crafted tirade against the introduction of national ID cards.

Related: http://www.no2id.net

Related: http://www.nocards.org/

Good job; Get to the heart of it. We can afford to be fools no longer. glenn

WRONG! If we don't have a national ID then you never see immigration laws enforced!

We already have a national id, it is called your social security number.

Modifying this already exisitant ID to modern standards would be a simple matter.

It is already the dept. that is meant to do the job of determining your right to work here.

Any ID is of course, able to be faked, if the people administering it are lax.

cheers glenn

Originally Posted by naturalglenn

We already have a national id, it is called your social security number.

Modifying this already exisitant ID to modern standards would be a simple matter.

It is already the dept. that is meant to do the job of determining your right to work here.

Any ID is of course, able to be faked, if the people administering it are lax.

cheers glenn

They can create a phony card but they CANNOT FAKE THE NUMBER on the card. Either it is valid or it isn't.

We need to update our SS cards with a readable magnetic stripe and enforce workplace immigration laws.

Workplace ID of illegal aliens is already in place using traditional documents via the SAVE program found in the ALIPAC Action Panel on the top tool bar.

Jack? Why is it now we need a new national biometric ID for the Government to their job when they used to do it better without the ID?

W

A nAtional ID is just another yoke on the citizens.
You can get a bank account, drivers licence, tons of stuff without real ID. Illegals do it all the time.

Amercians have to learn keep up in a new global economy. That means having multiple identities. Everybody else does it.



Some stupid ID isnt going the make the wimps in government enforce any immigration laws.

They ignore every other opportunity to stop the invasion, why would this be different?

p

Originally Posted by phoenixashes

A nAtional ID is just another yoke on the citizens.
You can get a bank account, drivers licence, tons of stuff without real ID. Illegals do it all the time.

Amercians have to learn keep up in a new global economy. That means having multiple identities. Everybody else does it.



Some stupid ID isnt going the make the wimps in government enforce any immigration laws.

They ignore every other opportunity to stop the invasion, why would this be different?

p

I see that you're new here.

It's true that we don't agree on everything but one thing we do not advocate is lying, cheating, and stealing. If that is your way of keeping up in the new global economy I think you should stop and think about the way you live your life.

Sorry Jack,
This ID is for the Tri-national union of the FTAA and not an ID to stop illegal immigrants from getting id. The databases set up for this ID will be shared with Mexico and Canada.

CANNOT FAKE THE NUMBER? Who has been checking that is an employer?

Anyone within SS that is corrupt can produce new numbers and sell them.

Once a number is stolen, along with your identity you could be working in 10 states for all you know.

They are here, they are working, and no one cares that matters, for now, do da do da day! cheers glenn