Thread: Google Lies and Turns Down US Job Applicants

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So lets see if I got this right. Google advertises a job specifically for a foreign worker they want. United States citizens with similar skills apply for the job. Google turns them all down. They then go to the US Government and tell them they could not find a person in the United States to do the job. The US Government gives Google an H1B Visa and the foreign worker now comes to the US. Meanwhile, those who applied for the job were deceived about an opening they will never get. Legal? Yes Ethical? No Immoral? No. Enough to make your blood pressure boil? You bet!

Meanwhile, this little game is played out by a number of other companies in the United States (IBM, Microsoft, Pfizer, Genetech, HP, etc). By some estimates, universities, colleges and companies have done this little trick to the tune of 2.5 million jobs, with various visa categories. While this goes on in the United States, a US citizen will not get the same treatment in the European Union, Australia, New Zealand and Canada which have stricter immigration laws. For example, Australia limits the age of migrants (temporary or otherwise) to 45 and below. So, with millions of people out of work, and more joining theme every day, the Visa bandwagon rolls on.

While Congress turns a blind eye, 2.5 million jobs which could be filled by Americans get filled by people from outside the country. What makes this even worse is that even those US Citizens who went to colleges like Carnegie Mellon, MIT, Cooper Union, Cal Tech, RPI, et. al.; with the top engineering skills are passed over for cheaper labor from India and other Asian countries. What is wrong with this picture?

Even in a good economy, millions of American Citizens are excluded from technology jobs. We tell our children to major in IT; for what? So, they can be passed over or sent out to pasture in the early to mid 40s as obsolete? And what about the new energy economy? Well, these jobs may also end up not going to US Citizens? And do not be surprised when American health care records are computerized, that the work will be done in India.

As an unemployed 53 year old IT worker with 30 years of experience;with two degrees; all i can say is that our dysfunctional government does not care one bit about the American worker or average citizen in this country. Congress goes where the money is, and the lobbyists and corporations like Google are allowed to work the “systemâ€

We are not seeing the decline of the American dream; but the complete elimination of any form of a American Dream.

How long have we been saying this?

It sounds like the PERM process. In the PERM process, an H-1B has already been working at the company site, doing the job, for years and now the company has decided to sponsor the foreign worker for a green card. In order to do this they have to post his job. Sometimes there are dead giveways that this is not a real job opening. For example, it may be excessively detailed, as if the ad was written from someones CV (it was). It may also direct applicants to send their packets to someplace other than the company (a legal firm that will proceed to disqualify each and every American applicant). Here is the famous video where lawyers teach companies how to use the PERM process to exclude American candidates. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

More info on the PERM process here: http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/perm.cfm

Defenders of foreign labor will say that it is cruel to send home someone who has been working here for years. Defenders of American tech workers will say that it was cruel to give the job to an H-1B in the first place when plenty of qualified and willing Americans were available, and doubly cruel to dangle the job in front of them with no intent to hire an American.

The irony is that in order to hire the H-1B in the first place, they did NOT have to post the job where an American could have seen it and applied.

If I am not mistaken, in his last days GWB signed an executive order that companies do not have to advertise a job to Americans before hiring foreign labor. I don't know if that is one of the EOs Obama put on hold for review.

Originally Posted by BetsyRoss

It sounds like the PERM process. In the PERM process, an H-1B has already been working at the company site, doing the job, for years and now the company has decided to sponsor the foreign worker for a green card. In order to do this they have to post his job. Sometimes there are dead giveways that this is not a real job opening. For example, it may be excessively detailed, as if the ad was written from someones CV (it was). It may also direct applicants to send their packets to someplace other than the company (a legal firm that will proceed to disqualify each and every American applicant). Here is the famous video where lawyers teach companies how to use the PERM process to exclude American candidates. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

More info on the PERM process here: http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/perm.cfm

Defenders of foreign labor will say that it is cruel to send home someone who has been working here for years. Defenders of American tech workers will say that it was cruel to give the job to an H-1B in the first place when plenty of qualified and willing Americans were available, and doubly cruel to dangle the job in front of them with no intent to hire an American.

The irony is that in order to hire the H-1B in the first place, they did NOT have to post the job where an American could have seen it and applied.

Those attorneys should be disbarred and sent to the soup lines waiting for the cell in Traitors Prison.

Originally Posted by vortex

If I am not mistaken, in his last days GWB signed an executive order that companies do not have to advertise a job to Americans before hiring foreign labor. I don't know if that is one of the EOs Obama put on hold for review.

I have searched for Obama's intentions regarding this particular Bush EO and all I can see is that he will maintain the status quo and keep it in place. Both John McCain and Hillary Clinton were extremely fanatical about allowing temporary foreign workers to come in to the US without having to worry about whether or not Americans wanted the same job positions or not.

I hope that Obama realizes that many of the unemployed people who voted for him held out the hope that he would help American citizens get jobs before they were handed over to temporary foreign laborers such as H-1B's.