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  • Majority of U.S. citizens say illegal aliens should be deported

    Majority of U.S. citizens say illegal immigrants should be deported



    A group of recently deported immigrants stand near the double steel fence that separates San Diego and Tijuana at the border in Tijuana December 10, 2011.
    Credit: Reuters/Jorge Duenes

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - More than half of U.S. citizens believe that most or all of the country's 11 million illegal immigrants should be deported, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Wednesday that highlights the difficulties facing lawmakers trying to reform the U.S. immigration system.

    The online survey shows resistance to easing immigration laws despite the biggest push for reform in Congress since 2007.

    Thirty percent of those polled think that most illegal immigrants, with some exceptions, should be deported, while 23 percent believe all illegal immigrants should be deported.

    Only 5 percent believe all illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in the United States legally, and 31 percent want most illegal immigrants to stay.


    These results are in line with other polls in recent years, suggesting that people's views on immigration have not changed dramatically since the immigration debate reignited in Congress last month, according to Ipsos pollster Julia Clark.

    By Rachelle Younglai
    Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:09pm EST

    "It's not Americans' views that are shifting. It is that the political climate is ripe for this discussion," after the November election when Hispanics voted overwhelmingly in favor of Democratic President Barack Obama, she said.

    "Democrats feel that the time is right to capitalize on their wins and Republicans feel that they had a bad blow and are eager to reach out to Hispanics," she added.

    Polls show that most Americans back immigration reform, although they often have different ideas of what that means, with some people favoring looser immigration laws while others want to see greater border security.

    A group of eight U.S. senators are working on a bipartisan deal to enact immigration reform, the first major attempt since a similar overhaul died in Congress six years ago.

    The senators' proposal calls for a full path to citizenship for illegal immigrants once they pay back taxes and a fine and wait in line behind others applying to become Americans.

    A plan by Obama has similar provisions, but the senators want any move to relax immigration laws dependant on boosting security on the southern border.

    ISSUE POLARIZES POLICYMAKERS

    Attitudes toward immigration are polarized by party, according to another the Reuters/Ipsos poll. Seventy-five percent of Republicans think all or most immigrants should be deported, compared to 40 percent of Democrats who think the same.

    Republican Senator John McCain, one of the eight senators in the group, had his own encounter with citizens angered by illegal immigration on Tuesday when residents of his state of Arizona complained bitterly at a town hall meeting about the lack of security on the border with Mexico.

    One man asked why troops had not been deployed to the border.

    "Why didn't the army go down there and stop them? Because the only thing that stops them I'm afraid to say, and it's too damn bad, is a gun," the man said.

    Another resident, Keith Smith, got into a testy exchange with McCain, the 2008 Republican presidential candidate whose views on immigration have fluctuated over the years.

    "Cut off their welfare and all their stuff and they'll go back," Smith said, referring to undocumented workers.

    McCain had been trying to explain his position: "You're not telling these people the truth. They mow our lawns, they care for our babies, they clean . . . that's what those people do," he said.

    The Arizona lawmaker, whose position on immigration hardened during the 2010 midterm elections before softening again, is a key part of the Republican side of the senators' bipartisan immigration effort.

    Wednesday's Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted Friday through Tuesday and surveyed 1,443 Americans over the age of 18.

    The precision of the Reuters/Ipsos online poll is measured using a credibility interval. In this survey, the poll has a credibility interval of plus or minus 2.9 percentage points.
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    Comments 7 Comments
    1. southBronx's Avatar
      southBronx -
      this guy was right get them off welfare . ship back . close the border down
      no one care for our baby .or mow our laws wake up Mcain. my kids can do the same thing . you & all of gov want to hand every thing over to them
      well the american Have the upper hand . why you all for the USA or did you for
      we put you in Offices obama well I did not vote for him at all
      wake up American they work for US .
      NO DR LIC Dream act Or no Amnesty
    1. LAPhil's Avatar
      LAPhil -
      Quote Originally Posted by southBronx View Post
      this guy was right get them off welfare . ship back . close the border down
      no one care for our baby .or mow our laws wake up Mcain. my kids can do the same thing . you & all of gov want to hand every thing over to them
      well the american Have the upper hand . why you all for the USA or did you for
      we put you in Offices obama well I did not vote for him at all
      wake up American they work for US .
      NO DR LIC Dream act Or no Amnesty
      When I first saw the report of this poll, I didn't believe it because it seemed as though all the other polls indicated that most Americans favored a path to citizenship for the illegals already here rather than deportation. Now that I've seen corroboration of this new poll I'm feeling encouraged. Maybe people aren't willing to cut the illegals all this slack after all.
    1. busseysmom2's Avatar
      busseysmom2 -
      The "poll" results we've seen reported in the last few months are mostly either outright lies, or the results of wording that tricks Americans into answering the way the pro-amnesty side would like. The propaganda that mainstream media is putting out is playing on Americans' generosity and compassion, and leaving out the huge costs to us in increased taxes, overpopulation, congestion, schooling, and all other aspects of adding 11- 20 million mostly poor, uneducated immigrants to our country. There are NO stories about American construction workers who can't feed their families because illegals have their jobs for cash, or our escalating insurance costs due to illegal use of ERs, or of the poor quality of education for tax-paying Americans in schools that are forced to teach to the ESL level. The media would like everyone to think that every immigrant is a hard-working, deserving soul who we should allow to break the law and usurp citizenship. Let's see some gangbanger stories, or show the foreigner birth stats for a CA hospital like the one in Stockton, or the percentage of illegals we're paying to incarcerate for crimes, or a chart that shows the exponential growth of an immigrant population! FEEL SORRY FOR THE AFFECTED AMERICANS-- not the law breaking illegals!! Anyone who wants to help them CAN-- but do it in their countries of origin, not here.
    1. CRNA74's Avatar
      CRNA74 -
      Never, ever believe CBS, NBC, CNN, or any of the liberal media networks. All of the liberal networks have been in bed with obama, pelosi, and reid since day one. Come on folks, if we are to save this country we have one hell of a fight on our hands. Everyone in the country, I want to believe, wants to address and solve our financial crisis, yet when conservatives offer solutions, all of them (us) are called mean old Republicans. Well , I know of much worse names we could be called, "Democrat" for example. We must stick together to bring this country back to its rightful place because it appears obama, pelosi, and reid are taking us the route of Greece. Come on guys, we have just begun to fight!

      [QUOTE=LAPhil;1329858]When I first saw the report of this poll, I didn't believe it because it seemed as though all the other polls indicated that most Americans favored a path to citizenship for the illegals already here rather than deportation.
    1. Samantha55's Avatar
      Samantha55 -
      One thing I have noticed that is the way the criminals who have been caught and returned to their country of origin. They are labeled as having returned voluntarily. I have a hard time believing that these people are going back to there country of origin voluntarily. I don't see how when someone has been handcuffed and put in the back of a vehicle obviously against their will. I believe every time people are being forced to go back to where they come from they need to have a black mark on their record. What I see is there is not even a slap on the wrist for breaking the law. Every time they enter the country illegally they should not be allowed to enter the country for at least five years. They need to be reminded that coming in this country illegally something bad will happen. It is a pity the jails are so crowded because I believe when immigrants enter the country illegally they should spend some time in jail, at least a month. I think it would be a deterrent and they might think about not coming back into the country illegally.

      I wish people would consider the ranchers who own land between the border and their destination where they are absorbed into the system. The damage that is done to their land and their animals is truly horrible. If pro immigration people were to suffer the damage to property or say their pets were killed I wonder if they would still be pro immigration. What if their pools had dirt and garbage were dumped into their pools, do you think their opinions would change. What if their tires were slashed, would they change their mind.

      It does not end with the ranchers, the dessert is being turned into a dump. There is so much garbage thrown everywhere. Ecologically speaking illegal immigrants are
      destroying the land. They don't seem to care about their children or their wives. The weather in Mexico especially in the summer is not that different than here in America. When I am getting ready to take a trip I learn as much as I can about the place I am going to. If someone is getting ready to cross the desert they need to prepare themselves and learn what they need to successfully their journey. These immigrants don't seem to know how far they are going to be walking. They have some strange ideas about how far it is to Tucson, To Phoenix or to New York. Most of these people are adults and should know what they are doing. The evidence of the irresponsibility is found all over the desert. I remember when they found the body of a pregnant women. Who would take their pregnant wife across the desert? It does not make sense. Their big motivation is to bring an anchor baby into the country. Who would take their small children into the desert? And if they make it and when that child is an adult they find out they cannot become a citizen unless they go back to Mexico or wherever they come from. By now they are not Americans and they are not Hispanic. Some do not speak Spanish and don't know anything about living in Mexico. People blame the immigration laws but I believe the parents are responsible.

      What about the number one crime that is broken that nobody wants to talk about. I read that 80% of immigrants when they go to apply for jobs use an identity that they have
      stolen. The popular identification they prefer to steal is that of children and babies. After all by the time someone discovers there have been identity theft there is not not much that can be done. Can you imagine your son or daughter applying for their first credit card, or buying their first car or home only to find out they are so deep in debt they cannot imagine ever getting out of debt. Pro immigration people don't want to talk about the elephant in the room.

      I remember trying to get a job after a particularly nasty divorce. My ex had canceled my insurance the day after the divorced went through. He also lied in court by saying I could work when he knew because of health problems I could not work. Getting a job was very important to me even though it would be real hard on me. I thought I had the job because the person I was talking to seemed to want to hire me. That is until he asked the one question that made it impossible for me to get the job. It had nothing with the usual things people lie about, like being a felon. The question he asked me was do I speak Spanish. I had to say no. Even though I was an American and spoke three languages because I don't speak Spanish he could not hire me. Sometimes I wonder if I have moved to Mexico and somehow missed it. I really hate the question on the phone, if you prefer English dial one. I feel there is no place for Americans in this country anymore. This is something the Spanish have been doing for a long time. Just slowly and surely entering a country and somehow having more people speaking Spanish then the original language of the country. Will the American language become history in the future? It would not be the first time. I was told by a Hispanic person that I could not be a Greek American. He was real proud of being Hispanic. It used to be when someone became a naturalized citizen it was the proudest day of their life. I know that my ex in laws only became Americans when they discovered they had to before they could collect social security. My ex in laws are French and don't like Americans.

      I wonder if we were to open the flood gates and let anyone who wants to come in the country will be allowed. What will become of the country they are leaving. That leads to the biggest problem. This country is limited to a certain amount of people who can live in this country. When I need to use the ER I have to wait so long there is a shift change and when I look around there is all new people waiting with me. Our schools are crowded to overflowing and our children do not get the education they used to get. It used to be if an illegal immigrant were to accept food stamps they could never become a citizen. I had a friend whose fiance wanted to become a citizen because she had fallen in love with an American.and she was from Italy. In order to even start the process of becoming an American she had to have a sponsor, someone other than her fiance. My ex said no because it is a huge responsibility. If that person were to get in trouble and cause some damage that she cannot pay the sponsor is responsible for paying her debts. I am certain there is more but that was enough. It seems that nobody tries to come into the country legally.

      What I have said here is just the tip of the iceberg the very tip. This country is like a boat that is sinking because there are too many people on the boat. Everyone knew the boat was filled to twice the capacity. Nobody seems to care because they feel it is the job of the captain to put as many on the boat even if the boat might sink and the captain knows the boat will sink. Instead of making sure everyone
      arrives safely the crew is busy counting the deck chair instead.
    1. BikerBob's Avatar
      BikerBob -
      Quote Originally Posted by LAPhil View Post
      When I first saw the report of this poll, I didn't believe it because it seemed as though all the other polls indicated that most Americans favored a path to citizenship for the illegals already here rather than deportation. Now that I've seen corroboration of this new poll I'm feeling encouraged. Maybe people aren't willing to cut the illegals all this slack after all.
      Why should a person be rewarded for breaking a law? If that is the case then I want all arrested for simple Cannabis possession rewarded too. We do not owe them anything except a trip home at their own expense. They should have never been given a drivers license, food stamps, or WIC. I don't understand how can they get a job,rent a place, or able to send money anywhere with out an I.D.? In addition to this I want to know how are people able to live here for years on Expired Tourist visas and they too get food stamps and WIC? Even if they are on a 'work visa' that is no reason to provide them with governmental assistance. If you are here illegally, visiting, or working here and can't afford to stay then go home.
    1. American Pie's Avatar
      American Pie -
      I do agree with south Bronx,LA Phil,etc. We don`t need our economy sunk any farther than Obama already has sunk it. No Dream Act ,No amnesty,especially with all their criminals. Our prisons are over flowing and it`s mainly(and I`m not against Mexicans) with Mexicans. I have no problem with other racesas long as they are US citizens and proud of it. ( Not waiving the Mexican flag unless our US Flag is first) To me that`s very important!