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    Arguments to bar citizenship for children of illegal immigra

    Arguments to bar citizenship for children of illegal immigrants miss vast majorities of babies

    Published September 03, 2010

    Associated Press



    SAN JUAN, Texas – When Ruth Garcia's twins are born in two months, they'll have all the rights of U.S. citizens. They and their six brothers and sisters will be able to vote, apply for federal student loans and even run for president.

    Garcia is an illegal immigrant who crossed into the country about 14 years ago, and the citizenship granted to her children and millions others like them is at the center of a divisive national debate.

    Republicans are pushing for congressional hearings to consider changing the nation's 14th Amendment to deny such children the automatic citizenship the Constitution guarantees. They say women like Garcia are taking advantage of a constitutional amendment meant to guarantee the rights of freed slaves, and paint a picture of pregnant women rushing across the border to give birth.

    A closer examination of the issue shows that the trend is not as dramatic as some immigration opponents have claimed.

    Most illegal immigrants are born to parents like Garcia who have made the United States their home for years.



    Out of 340,000 babies born to illegal immigrants in the United States in 2008, 85 percent of the parents had been in the country for more than a year, and more than half for at least five years, according to recent study from the Pew Hispanic Center.

    And immigration experts say it's extraordinarily rare for immigrants to come to the U.S. just so they can have babies and get citizenship. In most cases, they come to the U.S. for economic reasons and better hospitals, and end up staying and raising families.

    Garcia crossed into the U.S. illegally about 14 years ago, before her children were born, and her husband has since been deported. She earns a living by selling tamales to other immigrants who live in fear of being deported from the slapdash, impoverished colonias that dot the Texas-Mexico border.

    "I think that children aren't at fault for having been born here," Garcia said. "My children always have lived here. They've never gone to another country."

    Under current immigration law, Garcia and others like her don't get U.S. citizenship even though their children are Americans.

    With an estimated 11.1 million illegal immigrants living in the United States, the issue strikes a chord with many voters — people like retired Air Force nurse and pediatric nurse practitioner Susan Struck, 66, of Double Adobe, Ariz.

    "People come over ... and they have babies with U.S. birth certificates, then they go back over the border with that Social Security number, with that birth certificate," and have access to public services, she said at a recent event near the border organized by conservative tea party activists.

    Several prominent Republican leaders share Struck's beliefs on the issue. Sen. Lindsay Graham of South Carolina has been a vocal advocate for changing the Constitution, and he helped the issue gain momentum heading into the midterm elections.

    "Women have traveled from across the world for the purpose of adding a U.S. passport holder to their family, as far away as China, Turkey and as close as Mexico," said Jon Feere, legal analyst for the Center for Immigration Studies, which advocates for strict immigration laws.

    Still, changing the Constitution is highly unlikely, legal scholars say. Measures have been introduced in each two-year congressional session since 2005, but none has made it out of committee. Constitutional changes require approval by two-thirds majorities in both chambers of Congress, an impossibility now because Democrats have the majority in both houses and most oppose such a measure. Even if that changes after November and legislation is passed, an amendment would still need to be ratified by three-fourths of the states.

    To be sure, some pregnant Mexican women do come to the United States. In border cities like Nogales, women have been coming to the U.S. for decades to give birth, although the primary reason is better medical care, Santa Cruz County sheriff Tony Estrada said. Billboards advertising birthing services in Arizona line streets across the border in Nogales, Mexico.

    Tucson Medical Center, 115 miles southeast of Phoenix, offers packages designed to provide inclusive care to new mothers. The program draws some residents of the northern Mexican state of Sonora who can afford its upfront costs and already have U.S. visas, spokesman Michael Letson said.

    Princeton University demographer Douglas Massey said in 30 years studying Mexican immigration, he's never interviewed a migrant who said they came to the United States just to get citizenship for their children.

    "Mexicans do not come to have babies in the United States," said Massey, who blames the tightening of the border in the 1990s for cutting off normal migration of men who used to come to work for a year or two and then go home. "They end up having babies in the United States because men can no longer circulate freely back and forth from homes in Mexico to jobs in the United States and husbands and wives quite understandably want to be together."

    More common, he and other experts says, are a families stuck with one child who is legal and others who aren't — like Beatriz Gomez, a 35-year-old illegal immigrant who came to Phoenix 11 years ago on a now-expired tourist visa from Arriaga in the Mexican state of Chiapas.

    Her 12-year-old daughter was born in Mexico and is here illegally, but her two youngest children, ages 8 and 5, were born in the U.S. and are citizens.

    "It's sad," Gomez said of her oldest daughter, who was only 1 when the family came to the United States. "She studies hard, and she won't be able to go to a university like the other two.


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    what the hell Part don't they Under stand No Citiezen ships no way in hell did this girl get Pregnant in mex & then come over to the USA for USA Citizen they were Not slaves. they came over so they can have everything they were Not beaten like the black was show Me your Birth Ccertificatie for a started everyone of the Mexico for year sneak over & Now whey want to say Im a citiezen . no way in hell if they came over to this Country 14 year ago they think . rigth way Im a American Citizen not way in hell you was born In mexico stay In Mexico No Citizen ship for Mexico I don't care how Many year's you were In this country no citizen No way in hell Not in my Book go look in your history book & see who were the Slaves No Citizen Ship at all Voice Of AMerican & Obama do your Job Good Luck GOV Jan & JOe & ALI-PAC
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    A closer examination of the issue shows that the trend is not as dramatic as some immigration opponents have claimed.

    Most illegal immigrants are born to parents like Garcia who have made the United States their home for years.
    This argument is a straw man argument. These are citizens of mexico and it does not matter how long they have been able to illegally reside here while evading deportation. The fact is they are still illegal and have no right to be here...period! Our Constitution was never meant to convey citizenship to their spawn! Period!

    I would bet my last dollar that garcia would never have six children in mexico, as mexico does not subsidize such irresponsible breeding by their citizens. We are the only country dumb enough to encourage such behavior through our lavish social and welfare systems that these invaders take full advantage of!
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