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    Medicaid Rules Toughened on Proof of Citizenship

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    June 5, 2006
    Medicaid Rules Toughened on Proof of Citizenship
    By ROBERT PEAR
    WASHINGTON, June 4 — The Bush administration plans this week to issue strict standards requiring more than 50 million low-income people on Medicaid to prove they are United States citizens by showing passports or birth certificates and a limited number of other documents.

    The new standards follow a tussle with Congress. Federal health officials had considered giving states broad discretion to accept affidavits in place of official documents. But House Republicans complained, and the administration backed off, allowing affidavits "only in rare circumstances."

    The requirements, which take effect July 1, carry out a law signed by President Bush on Feb. 8.

    They vividly illustrate how concern about illegal immigration is affecting domestic social welfare policy. The purpose of the law was to conserve federal money for citizens, reducing the need for states to cut Medicaid benefits or limit eligibility.

    Gov. Rick Perry of Texas won enthusiastic applause at a state Republican convention on Friday when he vowed to increase border security and said, "Texas will start requiring every Medicaid applicant to verify that they are in the country legally in order to receive benefits."

    But officials in some other states and advocates for the poor said the new requirements could cause hardship for children, older Americans and poor people born at home in rural areas who never received birth certificates. Children account for about half of Medicaid recipients. People 65 and older account for about 10 percent.

    Jennifer M. Ng'andu, a health policy specialist at the National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic rights group, said, "The documentation requirements will cause confusion about eligibility and will put up barriers to enrollment."

    In general, Medicaid is available only to United States citizens and to certain "qualified aliens." Before the new standards, in many states, people who declared they were citizens did not have to support the claim.

    But in a letter being sent this week to state officials, the Bush administration says, "Self-attestation of citizenship and identity is no longer an acceptable practice."

    In the law, Congress listed examples of documents that could be used to show citizenship, and it said the secretary of health and human services could "by regulation" specify other acceptable documents.

    The main proponents of the new requirements were two Republican House members from Georgia, Representatives Charlie Norwood and Nathan Deal.

    John E. Stone, a spokesman for Mr. Norwood, said Sunday: "Charlie provided feedback to the administration in the last two weeks to make sure the regulations would not undermine the intent of the law. Obviously you need some flexibility so that a 92-year-old woman with Alzheimer's does not get kicked off Medicaid. What's unacceptable is for people to claim benefits or sign affidavits swearing they are citizens without any verification."

    In an interview Sunday, Dr. Mark B. McClellan, administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said, "We want to provide an effective way to document citizenship without placing excessive burdens on states or beneficiaries."

    In the letter to state Medicaid directors, the administration says, "An applicant or recipient who fails to cooperate with the state in presenting documentary evidence of citizenship may be denied or terminated" from the program.

    The requirements will be enforced when a person applies for Medicaid or when eligibility is first recertified on or after July 1. In general, applicants and recipients will have 45 days to provide documents. People with disabilities will have 90 days.

    States typically redetermine eligibility every 3 to 12 months. "Once citizenship has been proved, it need not be documented again" because it does not normally change, the administration said.

    But the guidelines include a significant ambiguity: "An individual who is already enrolled in Medicaid will remain eligible if he or she showed a good-faith effort to present satisfactory evidence of citizenship and identity, even if this effort takes longer than 45 days." The administration says that "beneficiaries will not lose benefits as long as they are undertaking a good-faith effort to provide documentation."

    States have a strong incentive to enforce the requirements. If they fail to do so, they can lose federal Medicaid money.

    The guidelines say states should help people document citizenship, especially if they are homeless, mentally impaired or physically incapacitated and have no one to act on their behalf.

    The guidelines list four categories of documents that can be used as evidence of citizenship, from the most reliable to the least trustworthy. The best evidence, they say, is a United States passport or a certificate of naturalization. The next category includes state and local birth certificates and State Department documents issued to children born abroad to United States citizens.

    The third category consists of nongovernment documents showing place of birth. These include medical records from doctors, hospitals and clinics; nursing home admission papers; and records from life and health insurance companies.

    The fourth category includes affidavits, which can be used "only in rare circumstances when the state is unable to secure evidence of citizenship" from other sources.

    "An affidavit must be supplied by at least two individuals, one of whom is not related to the applicant or recipient," the guidelines say. "Each must attest to having personal knowledge of the events establishing the applicant's or recipient's claim of citizenship. The individuals making the affidavit must be able to provide proof of their own citizenship and identity."

    People signing affidavits may also be asked "why documentary evidence of citizenship does not exist or cannot be readily obtained."
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    Still not good enough. Another Bush attempt to fool the people. That's what I think. Too many loopholes and the system can still be easily taken advantage of.

    I'm convinced that George Bush isn't capable of doing anything right.
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    When you've worked in a job where you see the Medicaid fraud which is going on, and you see who is doing it, mostly illegal aliens, who are not afraid of breaking the laws in this country you know this just won't work.

    It will take stronger steps and actions and serious consequences for taking advantage of the system, consequences that really take place. George Bush appears to be incapable of doing the right things to truly solve the problems facing OUR country. He also seems to be determined not to admit his mistakes and to try to implement better and real ways of handling these problems.

    Get rid of him through impeachment and there's a better than good chance we'll get rid of many of the problems facing OUR country.

    RIGHT NOW IT APPEARS THAT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM FACING OUR COUNTRY IS GEORGE W. BUSH HIMSELF.
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    I agree there is still a wide margin for fraud. Another feeble attempt by GWB to placate us.
    Freedom isn't free... Don't forget the men who died and gave that right to all of us....
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    But the guidelines include a significant ambiguity: "An individual who is already enrolled in Medicaid will remain eligible if he or she showed a good-faith effort to present satisfactory evidence of citizenship and identity, even if this effort takes longer than 45 days." The administration says that "beneficiaries will not lose benefits as long as they are undertaking a good-faith effort to provide documentation."
    The fourth category includes affidavits, which can be used "only in rare circumstances when the state is unable to secure evidence of citizenship" from other sources.

    "An affidavit must be supplied by at least two individuals, one of whom is not related to the applicant or recipient," the guidelines say. "Each must attest to having personal knowledge of the events establishing the applicant's or recipient's claim of citizenship. The individuals making the affidavit must be able to provide proof of their own citizenship and identity."
    We are all aware that every document in this country is valid!


    I'm convinced that George Bush isn't capable of doing anything right
    Hi LegalUSCitizen, The problem is that GB is doing exactly what he wants to and he seems to BELIEVE it IS the right thing to do. That the majority of citizens disagrees with him, obviously means nothing.
    TIME'S UP!
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    Why should <u>only</u> AMERICAN CITIZENS and LEGAL immigrants, have to obey the law?!

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    CuriousPat, I used to think he was right until I realized he was wrong.

    Then I used to think that he thought he was right, that he wasn't seeing things as they really are, that he was very naive, that he was being mislead. Now I think that he knows good and well what the truth is and that he is fully 100% AWARE OF EVERYTHING THAT HE IS DOING.

    It's just my opinion, CuriousPat. I wish I had a different opinion, but I just don't.
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    Hi LegalUSCitizen, The problem is that GB is doing exactly what he wants to and he seems to BELIEVE it IS the right thing to do. That the majority of citizens disagrees with him, obviously means nothing
    We obviously agree! Arrogance.
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