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    Paul: Immigration not solved by barbed wire, guns

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    By BETH FOUHY
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    LAS VEGAS -- Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul outlined his views on immigration Wednesday, saying he favors a compassionate policy that doesn't rely on "barbed-wire fences and guns on our border."

    Paul spoke to several dozen people organized by Hispanics in Politics, Nevada's oldest Hispanic community group. The Texas congressman has scheduled several days of campaigning in Nevada before the state's caucuses Saturday.

    Paul went into much greater detail on immigration policy than he has at most of his campaign stops. He typically steers clear of discussing rights for specific groups of people, insisting that his libertarian-leaning views apply to everyone as individuals.

    But in Nevada, which is 26 percent Hispanic, Paul outlined an immigration policy far outside the Republican mainstream.

    Paul blasted politicians who blame immigrants for causing the country's economic problems. He compared the situation to Nazi Germany's targeting of Jews in the 1930s.

    "When things go badly, individuals look for scapegoats," Paul said. "Hispanics, the immigrants who have come in, are being used as scapegoats."

    Paul said he doesn't support illegal immigration and said people who break the law should be punished. But he said he opposes any effort to round people up and ship them away.

    "If an individual is found to be breaking the law, serious consideration should be given for them to return. But I would think 99 percent of people who come here come because they believe in the American dream," Paul said to applause.

    Paul decried a punitive border policy, which said offended his belief in individual liberty.

    "The one thing I have resisted and condemned: I do not believe that barbed-wire fences and guns on our border will solve any of our problems," he said.

    Paul also said he was against laws that require immigrants to carry proof of legal status. He says he doesn't want to live in a country where people are required to carry identity papers.

    "You say, 'Well, this is only for illegals.' That's a bunch of baloney," Paul said. "How do you sort out illegals from legals? Unless you put papers and identification on everybody."

    Hispanics in Nevada have favored Democrats over Republicans in recent election years - a full 74 percent of Hispanics supported President Barack Obama in 2008 over GOP rival John McCain.

    But Fernando Cortes, Paul's director of Hispanic outreach in Nevada, said many Hispanic voters had shown interest in Paul's message.

    "They're always pandered to by the left and ignored by the right," Cortes said of Hispanic voters. "They're very motivated by the wanting of freedom back and a sound economy."

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    Paul speaks to Las Vegas Hispanic group about immigration

    By Richard Lake
    LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
    Posted: Feb. 1, 2012 | 9:38 a.m.
    Updated: Feb. 1, 2012 | 11:52 a.m.

    Republican presidential contender Ron Paul told an influential group of Hispanics on Wednesday that he favors legal immigration to the United States.

    "I just do not believe barbed wire fences and guns on our borders will solve any of our problems," the Texas congressman told a group of about 100 people Wednesday morning.

    Paul, in town ahead of Saturday's Republican caucus, was the only Republican candidate to accept an invitation to speak before the Las Vegas group Hispanics in Politics. Paul, the candidate who has most actively reached out to Hispanic voters, finished second in Nevada to current Republican front-runner Mitt Romney in 2008. Romney is expected to finish first again, but Paul has made it clear he intends to do well here.

    Newt Gingrich, the former House speaker, plans to reach out to several dozen invited Hispanic business leaders on Thursday at Mundo Restaurant in Las Vegas, his campaign confirmed.

    Paul spoke in detail about immigration policy, saying he favored legal immigration, though he did not like a lot about so-called amnesty programs that would allow people who have been in this country illegally to gain citizenship. He said that would be rewarding lawbreakers.

    He said there is too much emotion involved in the immigration issue, comparing how some people blame the illegal immigration problem for the nation's economic problems with how the Nazis used Jews as scapegoats in the buildup to World War II.

    He also said the nation "overreacted" to the events of Sept. 11, 2001, as far as immigration goes, and that there is too much red tape for immigrants and others to contend with. He does not favor issuing national identification cards, either, he said.

    "I don't want to live in a country where we have to have our papers" to conduct ordinary business, he said.

    Simply deporting immigrants who are not here legally is no solution, Paul said. He said he has seen families separated by such actions, and that it is not good policy to send someone to their country of origin if they have been here most of their lives. It would also be a logistical nightmare to deport all illegal immigrants, he said.

    "That makes no sense at all to do that," Paul told the crowd.

    He said the nation should instead make it easier for people to immigrate here legally. Most immigrants, he said, come here because they believe in the American dream.

    He said everybody wants the same thing, no matter what group they belong to: freedom.

    "That should bring us all together," he said.

    Paul, who spoke for about a half hour Wednesday and answered a few questions afterward, has focused on gaining supporters among diverse groups: Hispanics, veterans, young voters and Mormons, who have previously backed their fellow church-goer Romney.

    Michael G. McDonald, 53, said he was supporting Paul because he was the only candidate in either party who is honest about revamping the country's monetary policy.

    "He's the only alternative we have," said McDonald, who attended Wednesday's event and plans to participate in Saturday's caucuses.

    He said that if Paul does not gain the Republican nomination, he will vote the way he has been voting for a decade: For "none of these candidates," an option unique to Nevadans.

    Edwin Aguilar, 22, attended the event, too. He said he is not yet a citizen, so he cannot vote. But he said he is here legally from El Salvador, and he wants to spread the word about Paul.

    "I believe Ron Paul's message is universal," Aguilar said. "It appeals to anybody from any background. Peace, liberty, freedom."

    Paul emphasizes returning the country's currency to the gold standard, dramatically reducing government spending and regulations, and emphasizing individual rights over government policy. He tends to appeal to libertarian-minded Nevadans.

    Marlene Simpson, 50, said she would support Paul in Saturday's caucus. She likes that he wants to focus on domestic policy, rather than the goings on around the world.

    Paul, as he often does, railed against the response to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, particularly the invasion of Iraq and the Patriot Act.

    He said that if elected, he would immediately bring the troops home.

    "We've spent too much time meddling in the affairs of other nations," he said. "I think we ought to stop all that."

    Review-Journal reporter Laura Myers contributed to this report. Contact reporter Richard Lake at rlake@reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0307 .

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    Hey Ron Paul. The reason they need to carry papers or a VALID ID is because they use 30+ different names when approached by law enforcement.
    You cannot dedicate yourself to America unless you become in every
    respect and with every purpose of your will thoroughly Americans. You
    cannot become thoroughly Americans if you think of yourselves in groups. President Woodrow Wilson

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    No matter who it is or what party they represent, "nothing is going to be done about this invasion of the United States Of America! those in politics want these people here and, that's a GOD given fact. Illegal Immigration will never be stopped in this country because that is the way Washington wants things in this country to be. the more Illegals the merrier as far as they are concerned. In other countries, they require ID to be carried so, why not here? BTW, why do we have to BOW down to them, by making it so that they don't have to speak ENGLISH? I'm sick of pressing 1 for ENGLISH in my own country.
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    He said there is too much emotion involved in the immigration issue, comparing how some people blame the illegal immigration problem for the nation's economic problems with how the Nazis used Jews as scapegoats in the buildup to World War II.
    What an outrageous and ignorant statement.
    What the hell is wrong with Ron Paul? He always Say's the damnedest things!

    Did he just compare us to Nazi's? Yes he did.....
    Paul's on another planet..I'll pray for him.
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    Paul is TOAST!
    Any and all comments & Opinions and postings by me are considered of my own opinion, and not of any ORG that I belong to! PERIOD!

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    Been saying for months that Paul has turned Into an open borders fanatic. His book reveals his true Intentions and thoughts on the subject. Paul does not believe that we should have borders In an "open society"
    A vote for Ron Paul Is a vote for Illegals and their pals ..... This Is NOT the same Ron Paul that ran In 2008 with regard to Illegal Immigration ... TS

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    Well it would seem now that every repub seeking the nomination has learned how to do back-flips.

    So sad.
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