Thread: Why not everybody?

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Why not everybody?
By Thomas Sowell

Apr 20, 2006


One of the ways of trying to justify illegal immigration from an economic standpoint is to point out that the work done by these immigrants is adding to the total output of the United States.

We have all heard about the "undocumented workers" who grow our tomatoes, harvest our strawberries, clean our hotels, take care of our children, mow our lawns and do innumerable other things. All of this of course adds to the nation's total output.

If that is a sufficient justification, why not open our borders to everybody from countries around the world? If not, why not? By what principle would you decide where to put a limit?

There is no point saying that there is not room enough for everybody in the world to be here because there is.

A quarter of a century ago, I sat down with some statistics on world population and on land area in the United States -- and discovered that the entire population of the world could be housed in the state of Texas, in one-story, single family homes, 4 people to a house, on a lot slightly larger than the lot where I was living at the time, in a typical middle-class neighborhood.

The world's population has of course grown since then, so instead of putting everybody in Texas, we could spread them out from sea to shining sea, with lots of elbow room for everybody.

There is no question that, with billions more people living in the United States, our national output would be a lot bigger than it is today. Why not do it then, if the argument based on immigrants' contribution to increased American output is sufficient?

More important, by what principle would you decide where to draw the line -- and why does that same principle not apply to today's immigrants, legal or illegal?

The most obvious objection is that the world's population living in the United States would not only add to output but add to the costs imposed on American citizens. That same argument applies to immigrants from Mexico or any other country today.

The emergency rooms of many hospitals in California have become a major source of medical treatment for illegal immigrants, and the financial drain of serving people who cannot or do not pay has shut down some of these hospitals, making them unavailable to American citizens as well as illegal aliens.

Schools have to contend not only with the additional financial costs of educating the children of illegal immigrants but also with the educational problems of trying to deal with children who require extra attention because of their limited knowledge of English.

The children of American citizens have less time and resources available to them as a result.

The welfare state has made immigrants of all sorts, wherever their origin and whether they are legal or illegal, a major burden beyond what the immigrants of a century ago were. Few of the enthusiasts for more immigration seem to want to talk about these high hidden costs of "cheap labor."

To the hotels, farmers, and affluent families who hire illegal immigrants, the labor may be cheap but to the taxpayers it can be very expensive.

Moreover, the people who live in affluent suburbs and have "undocumented workers" to mow their lawns, take care of their children or clean their swimming pools are unlikely to have these workers as neighbors. Nor are these immigrants' children likely to be going to local upscale schools.

Even people who have been railing at Wal-Mart for not paying their workers "enough," claiming that the taxpayers are subsidizing Wal-Mart employees' health care and other benefits, never seem to apply the same reasoning to illegal immigrants.

While American citizens are legally entitled to welfare state benefits, Mexicans get those benefits only if they cross the border into the United States. In short, immigrants add to such costs while Wal-Mart's American employees do not, because they can get those benefits whether they work for Wal-Mart or not.

Whatever the decision as to how many and what kind of immigrants should be let into the United States, why should that decision be made by people in Mexico, instead of being made here by Americans?

Originally Posted by Brian503a

We have all heard about the "undocumented workers" who grow our tomatoes, harvest our strawberries, clean our hotels, take care of our children, mow our lawns and do innumerable other things. All of this of course adds to the nation's total output.

Great article, Brian! There are so many points and sentences to respond to. If I have to choose just one, it is the above.

The sorry old excuse or rationale that they are just doing the jobs that Americans won't do, is becoming very lame. Folks, get out the violins and start strumming to the whining lazy foreigners benefits, not that they don't already get free this and that through welfare fraud.

Pardon the language, but I have personally worked many shit jobs especially in my younger years. I would do any of these again today for a decent wage. If no decent wage was offered or available and mine and my children's livelihoods (like enough food to eat, for example or a roof over our heads) depended on such a job, I would be forced to do it at even sucky wages and benefits, not that any benefits are offered much anymore. Cheap corporations just don't for example pay health coverage much anymore so taxpayers pick up the tabs for Medicaid for their employees.

This is what illegal immigration has brought to USA citizens, including LEGAL immigrants: extreme job competition and an employer market resulting, depresssed wages and benefits, and just not enough jobs to go around for all the jobless Americans. Many of the jobs taken by illegal aliens are needed by: high school students, college students, lower-level workers w/o college or HS degrees, and seniors trying to suppliment their retirement savings.

Illegals and foreign workers on H1 this and that visas are also displacing US citizens including LEGAL immigrants in higher level and paying jobs.

With millions of unemployed American citizens, we do not need any foreigners filling any type of job in the good ole USA. What we need are FEWER PEOPLE, not more.

I'm sick of hearing the old saying "there just jobs that Aericans won't do" That could be the furthest from the truth. I am a female, and started roofing houses at the age of 20. It was very hard work, but I made a good living at it for the first ten years or so. Then the influx of illegals moved in and started doing my job for half the money. I couldn't even get a job within next the 5 years. I struggled, now I am 40 years old, and today they are still working for less than I was 20 years ago. If it paid a decent wage I would roof a house today to keep my family fed. I don't live in a home with five other families helping to pay my bills. I can't afford to work for peanuts. The larger companies are the ones profitting out of all of this. They are charging the customer twice as much as we did 20 years ago, but they are paying out less now than they did 20 years ago. If they would start deporting... then big companies would start paying what the job is worth! I promise, we would not have a problem filling those jobs. American's are just plain out sick of the excuses. Give them the oppourtunity first!!