Thread: Anyone Else Just Hear This?

I don't want to spread a rumor BUT . . . . .

MSNBC just had a guy on and he said the Healthcare Bill vote by the Senate is off the table!

The Dems are having the biggest riff they ever had another person said! LOL

The party is dividing and not just in two!!!

Let me know when you see it announced please.

I heard on Fox that Senator Reid said the August recess will happen (Rep Clyburn wanted to work through August) and that Health care will take place after that. Its off the table for now. Not sure if he meant "forever."

There's this from CNN:

No health care vote before August break, top Democrat says Story Highlights
•Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says no vote before recess

•Obama says the spiraling costs of current system would bankrupt the nation

•Some Republicans say they like the current system, but it must be less costly

•Obama's August timetable for a bill appears unlikely

updated 24 minutes agoNext Article in Politics »
Read VIDEO WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The top Democrat in the U.S. Senate said Thursday the chamber won't vote on a health care reform bill until after the upcoming August recess.


Sen. Harry Reid says Congress won't meet President Obama's August deadline.

1 of 2 The announcement by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada goes against President Obama's stated timetable for both the House and Senate to turn out bills by the August break.

In response, a senior administration official said Reid's announcement does not change Obama's timetable, with the president still wanting House and Senate votes before the upcoming recess.

Obama's desired schedule already appeared in doubt due to fierce Republican opposition and cost concerns by fiscally conservative Democrats over the $1 trillion package proposed so far.

Reid said leading Democrats and Republicans of the Senate Finance Committee, who are negotiating a compromise plan, have asked for more time to complete their work.

"The decision was made to give them more time," Reid said. "I don't think this is unreasonable. ... "I think that it's better to have a product that is one that's based on quality and thoughtfulness rather than trying to jam something through."

Obama has said his timetable is more a target than a make-or-break deadline, intended to spur Congress into action. He wants a health care reform bill on his desk by the end of the year to both capitalize on momentum of his new administration and avoid the thornier political climate of midterm congressional elections in 2010. Watch more of Obama's comments on health care reform »

The president took his reform pitch to Ohio on Thursday afternoon, touring the Cleveland Clinic -- a hospital he has repeatedly praised as a model of high-quality, low-cost care -- and hosting a town hall meeting in Shaker Heights.

Bills considered so far by House and Senate committees include Democratic proposals for a government-funded public health insurance option, mandates for people to be insured and employers to provide coverage, and an end to lack of coverage due to pre-existing conditions.

Republicans oppose a government-funded option and any requirement for employers to provide coverage. They also call for limits on medical malpractice lawsuits, which Democrats don't favor, along with a number of provisions contained in the Democratic bills, including increased efficiency in Medicare and Medicaid and a focus on preventive health programs.

On the House side, Speaker Nancy Pelosi reiterated Thursday that she wants the chamber to vote on a bill before the August break, despite remaining differences among House Democrats.


She had a tough meeting with House Democratic leaders Thursday morning, with House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn of South Carolina describing it as "one of the most contentious" whip meetings since he assumed the party post.

Also Thursday, representatives of the Congressional Black Caucus, voicing the concerns of Obama's liberal political base, predicted that inaction this year would have dire ramifications on millions of Americans.

Several Black Caucus representatives have insisted the health reform plan as currently drafted is affordable, drawing a sharp contrast with more fiscally conservative Democrats who have raised cost concerns.

Pelosi downplayed talk of a Democratic split, saying she believes the party "will reach consensus" on the issue.

"I am more confident than ever," Pelosi told reporters. "When we work out some of the differences that we have, it will be very apparent to everyone else that the momentum is there. When the bill is ready, we will go to the floor and we will win."

Pelosi also echoed Obama's remarks from a prime-time news conference Wednesday night, in which the president repeatedly emphasized that the spiraling costs of the current system would bankrupt the nation while denying coverage to millions more Americans.

Meanwhile, both Clyburn and the second-ranking Democrat in the Senate, Dick Durbin of Illinois, raised the possibility of Congress continuing to work on health care reform into the August recess.

Clyburn warned that going on break without passing a bill would bring headlines of failure to act.

"It is much better to postpone, if not cancel vacation -- our August break -- and stay here until we get this done," Clyburn said. "This is too important."

Durbin noted there wasn't time before the August 7 recess for the Senate Finance Committee's compromise plan to be debated by the full panel, then blended with a separate Democratic bill from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee before going to the full chamber.

"Count the days," he said. "Either we are going to go into overtime, which is always a possibility, or have to face the prospect of doing it after August."

In response, Rep. Mike Pence of Indiana, the third-ranking Republican in the House, said he wasn't interested in staying longer to talk only about what he called Democratic plans to take over the health care system.

Instead, Pence said, "we can do some modest changes that will lower the cost of health insurance for families and small businesses, but that's not what they're trying to do here."

Obama and Democratic leaders say the problems are deeper and systemic, with spiraling costs that eventually will bankrupt the country and with more than 12,000 people a day being added to the current figure of 46 million without health insurance.

A group of nine freshman Senate Democrats -- from largely moderate and conservative states -- released a statement Thursday urging greater emphasis on cost controls in the package, currently estimated to cost at least $1 trillion.


"We all believe that increasing coverage, improving quality of care, and reining in annual health care cost increases are vital goals," they said in a letter to Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Montana.

"In the face of exploding debt and deficits, however, we are concerned that too little focus has been given to the need for cost containment."

Obama and Democratic leaders say the problems are deeper and systemic, with spiraling costs that eventually will bankrupt the country and with more than 12,000 people a day being added to the current figure of 46 million without health insurance.

Hm, 12,000 sneaking across the border each day?

IF Obama does not get this passed and he DOES push his amnesty for illegal aliens. Then the Illegals once legalized, wont be able to get free healthcare...

You know there was a strategy to pushing his healthcare scam through asap first. He had to.

Originally Posted by Tbow009

IF Obama does not get this passed and he DOES push his amnesty for illegal aliens. Then the Illegals once legalized, wont be able to get free healthcare...

You know there was a strategy to pushing his healthcare scam through asap first. He had to.

We need to keep pushing back full force to make sure this travesty is not passed, we need to make the traitors all fear for their jobs. PRESSURE needs to stay on!

Originally Posted by Tbow009

IF Obama does not get this passed and he DOES push his amnesty for illegal aliens. Then the Illegals once legalized, wont be able to get free healthcare...

You know there was a strategy to pushing his healthcare scam through asap first. He had to.

Snicker, snicker, snicker ...