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07-01-2008, 04:06 AM #1Senior Member
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BOB BARR OR CHUCK BALDWIN?

BOB BARR OR CHUCK BALDWIN?
By Mary Starrett
July 1, 2008
NewsWithViews.com
Being For the Constitution SOME of the Time And Not All Of The Time Is Like Being ‘A Little Bit Pregnant’
Bob Barr, former Republican Congressman and US Attorney and now the Libertarian Party candidate for president has held many positions that constitutionalists can agree with. Many see Barr as the natural movement forward of the Ron Paul campaign, but even the most cursory examination of Bob Barr’s past political positions show he doesn’t pass the smell test.
In other words, you can’t be for adherence to the Constitution some of the time and against it some of the time, as we shall see Bob Barr clearly is.
Close enough is not close enough at all when it comes to our civil liberties and the rights guaranteed in the founding documents.
Constitution Party presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin (www.Baldwin2008.com) believes the US Constitution was then and is now designed to tie down the tentacles of the Federal government and that any and all powers given to the Federal government are clearly outlined in and limited by that document.
Bob Barr has not held fast to that single absolute and that is why you should know there is a very large distinction between Barr and Baldwin.
• Barr is in favor of an interventionist foreign policy, arguing for intervention in Iran and South America, among other countries. Barr voted for the Iraq war. He praised Bush because "the surge is working." Chuck Baldwin believes, as our Founders did, that we should be a friend to all and avoid ‘foreign entanglements’. Baldwin has stated that if elected he would see to it that those who have been sent to fight the illegal, unconstitutional and immoral wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would receive orders to return home immediately.
• Barr voted for the Patriot Act, and favored reauthorization of that liberty-robbing set of laws. Chuck Baldwin has always stood against the Patriot Act as an unconstitutional power grab by the executive branch.
• Barr favors a national sales tax. Chuck Baldwin contends that does not reform our tax system, it merely re-orders the heavy-handed manner the IRS controls the illegal and unfair robbing of Peter to subsidize Paul.
• He’s held an advisory position with the ACLU- a group which has worked tirelessly to push anti- Christian and anti- free speech agendas
• While Bob Barr has publicly, at times, supported pro-life groups, sadly, in his private life, according to his ex wife, Barr encouraged the abortion of their child.
• Chuck Baldwin has been a vocal and steadfast defender of the sanctity of life- publicly and privately.
Bob Barr is no Chuck Baldwin and that is why in November it behooves liberty-minded Americans to vote for the Constitution and vote for the Constitution Party candidate Chuck Baldwin.
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07-01-2008, 07:00 AM #2
I've been saying for a couple weeks it's "Chuck Baldwin" for any American . It's the only choice they have to restore "Honor and Intergity" back on the hill . Give us back our freedoms , yeah .
Nam vet 1967/1970 Skull & Bones can KMA .Bless our Brothers that gave their all ..It also gives me the right to Vote for Chuck Baldwin 2008 POTUS . NOW or never*
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07-02-2008, 10:39 PM #3Senior Member
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Gun Rights group opposing Barr presidential bid
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07-02-2008, 11:07 PM #4
Not mentioned in the article: Chuck Baldwin is MUCH better on illegal immigration.
Serve Bush with his letter of resignation.
See you at the signing!!
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07-02-2008, 11:24 PM #5
Hack ARticle
This article is a hack job. Bob Barr has worked very hard for the past 5 years since he left the GOP to get rid of the patriot act. Remember, he was a republican. He has since become enlightened. I am so tired of people beating this to death. If you do not think that people can change their worldview, you would be wrong. I , too, was a republican, and believed very differently than I do now, a year ago. With new information, people can change. I know NO politician who has a voting record like RON PAUL...he is one of a kind. Bob Barr is NOT for intervention with Iran. He is for libertarian principles on entangling alliences, although if we were attacked he would act. Chuck Baldwin has absolutely NO VOTING RECORD WHATSOEVER. He has never even run for office before. How could anyone consider voting for someone who has absolutely no experience in politics at all...at least for president! Baldwin has nothing to refute and nothing to back up his words at all. Baldwin should run for local office and get elected , and then maybe for a state office. That guy is more of an empty suit than Barak Obama, and people are complaining that Obama is inexperienced. Get real people.
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07-03-2008, 04:23 PM #6Senior Member
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Bob Barr, Born-Again Libertarian, Backsliding On Mass Immigration: www.vdare.com/epstein/080519_barr.htm
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07-03-2008, 06:14 PM #7
Re: Hack ARticle
Actually, Baldwin ran on the Constitution Party's ticket in 04 as the VP nominee. He has had his awakening to how corrupt and misled the Republican Party is before Barr and yourself. Its fine with me that he has not served in government, as 90% of those who have are abject traitors.....and the only reason why they have experience is because they benefitted by being Republicrats. Why do you have to serve as a Republicrat first, and then realise how wrong they are? Why does it make you better to be late to awakening from your slumber? My problem with Barack is not his lack of experience, but the fact that he wants amnesty for illegals, like Barr and McCain do.
Originally Posted by jazzloversinc
Serve Bush with his letter of resignation.
See you at the signing!!


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