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    Yeah...they really need to find out who and where that US Visa was issued. I would hate to think we have corrupted and or incompetent government officials, issuing US Visas to people on known terrorist watch lists, at our embassies abroad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    Yeah...they really need to find out who and where that US Visa was issued. I would hate to think we have corrupted and or incompetent government officials, issuing US Visas to people on known terrorist watch lists, at our embassies abroad.
    It was issued BEFORE he was put on the watch list.
    "The multiple-entry U.S. visa was issued in London, England, in June 2008 with an expiration date of June 2010, Demuren said."
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    Yeah...they really need to find out who and where that US Visa was issued. I would hate to think we have corrupted and or incompetent government officials, issuing US Visas to people on known terrorist watch lists, at our embassies abroad.
    It was issued BEFORE he was put on the watch list.
    "The multiple-entry U.S. visa was issued in London, England, in June 2008 with an expiration date of June 2010, Demuren said."
    So when was he put on the watch list and why wasn't the visa revoked once he was put on the watch list?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
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    Yeah...they really need to find out who and where that US Visa was issued. I would hate to think we have corrupted and or incompetent government officials, issuing US Visas to people on known terrorist watch lists, at our embassies abroad.
    It was issued BEFORE he was put on the watch list.
    "The multiple-entry U.S. visa was issued in London, England, in June 2008 with an expiration date of June 2010, Demuren said."
    So when was he put on the watch list and why wasn't the visa revoked once he was put on the watch list?
    UK says it put plane bomb suspect on watchlist
    Britain Confirms Alleged Airline Bomber was on Watch List ...
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    I can't find anything yet that confirmes that England informed the U.S. that he was put on their watch list. I'm still looking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
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    Yeah...they really need to find out who and where that US Visa was issued. I would hate to think we have corrupted and or incompetent government officials, issuing US Visas to people on known terrorist watch lists, at our embassies abroad.
    It was issued BEFORE he was put on the watch list.
    "The multiple-entry U.S. visa was issued in London, England, in June 2008 with an expiration date of June 2010, Demuren said."
    So when was he put on the watch list and why wasn't the visa revoked once he was put on the watch list?
    December 28, 2009 1:03 PM

    What U.S. Intelligence Knew About the Underpants Bomber

    Mark Hosenball

    If you’ve been wondering how alleged failed transatlantic underpants bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was able to board a plane for the U.S. after his father had warned of his terrorist sympathies, you need to understand the different databases of suspected terrorists and how they operate.

    The only entry in the U.S. intelligence community’s principal electronic database of suspected terrorists mentioning Abdulmutallab was based on a visit by the suspect’s father to the U.S. Embassy in Abuja, Nigeria, according to two U.S. national security officials.
    Here is a chronology of what happened:

    Abdulmutallab’s father, wealthy Nigerian banker Dr. Alhaji Umaru Mutallab, spoke in person with officials at the embassy in the Nigerian capital on Nov. 19, said the officials, who asked for anonymity when discussing an ongoing investigation. During this meeting the senior Mutallab informed embassy officials that he was worried that his son had become involved with Islamic extremists; he specifically expressed concern that his son had either visited, or otherwise been in contact with, militants based in Yemen. Following the meeting, the officials said, the father’s information was circulated within the embassy, including to representatives from U.S. intelligence agencies stationed there. The next day, Nov. 20, the embassy sent a cable to Washington, reporting what Alhaji Mutallab had said.

    Within days of the cable reaching Washington, the information from it was entered in TIDE, a master list of around 550,000 terrorism suspects maintained by the National Counter Terrorism Center, the national security officials told Newsweek. This office, a unit of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, was set up after the 9/11 attacks to ensure that information on terrorist suspects was rapidly shared among all relevant U.S. intelligence and law-enforcement agencies. (A detailed fact sheet on TIDE’s origins and operations is posted on the Intelligence czar’s Web site here) The TIDE database is the government’s most comprehensive compilation of intelligence on known terrorism suspects. But, according to officials, it’s also often very raw information which lacks the kind of legal substance that U.S. officials believe is required before such intelligence is used to restrict an individual’s travel, for example by putting them on a “no-fly listâ€
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    Another pathetic example of "gee, I didn't know" crap. There is apparently no transparency or communication between governmental departments and that will play havoc with the open borders new world order.
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    Since my uncle refuses to get cable or satellite tv, we only get Canadian stations, as the US side went to digital for the local stations, and the signal is too weak to get any reception, we watch the Canadian news, and they actually had what looked like a 2 year old kid being patted down. Oh, btw, it looked like profiling to me, as everybody on the news segment was white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vortex
    Another pathetic example of "gee, I didn't know" crap. There is apparently no transparency or communication between governmental departments and that will play havoc with the open borders new world order.
    With Janet Nappy Napolitano running things we might as well buy our plots ............. we are toast.
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