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White House Finds 6 Million People Vaguely Related to ObamaCare; Pops Champagne

White House Somehow Comes Up with 6 Million Who Have Something to Do with Obamacare, Throws a Party

By Mike Miller 14 hours ago

The White House announced Thursday that ObamaCare has hit its March 31 objective — four days ahead of schedule. It says more than 6 million Americans have signed up for coverage through new insurance markets.
The initial goal of 7 million enrollees was revised downward by the Congressional Budget Office in February, a move that was embraced by the White House.
But here’s where the ambiguity begins.

1. The administration has yet to announce how many “enrollees” have paid their first month’s premium. Some independent estimates say that as many as 10 percent to 20 percent have not paid, which would bring the real enrollment number down to between 5 million and 6 million people.
2. Of the 3.3 million people that the White House said had “signed up” through January, less than 500,000 were uninsured people who actually gained new healthcare coverage, according to McKinsey, a leading management consulting firm.
3. The White House counts Medicaid enrollees in its numbers. Through December, between 1 and 2 million ObamaCare enrollees actually signed up for Medicaid vs. health insurance.
4. Moreover, when states report Medicaid enrollment data to the federal government, they don’t break down the number between the “gained Medicaid because of Obamacare” population and the “would have gotten Medicaid anyway” group.

So, while Team Obama can be congratulated on hitting its revised goal, many questions remain as to the bottom-line, actual number of people who have gained healthcare coverage exclusively because of ObamaCare. Chances are, we’ll never know.


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OBAMACARE SIGN-UP HOAX: Hijacking Cancelled Policy Victims Akin To Detroit Kidnapping New Yorkers

Posted by John Pastirchak on March 28, 2014 at 11:00pm
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The Obama administration is at it again. They're running up the flagpole an incredibly misleading ObamaCare enrollment figure. Typically, they're hoping we're all stupid enough to salute. Well, don't. The latest inflated number, 6-milliion, is fraught with enough stuffers to fill every coal-laden Christmas stocking on Capitol Hill next December.
According to a McKinsey Group study released earlier this month, just 14% of ObamaCare signups through February appeared to be "previously uninusured enrollees".

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/03/08/mckinsey-only-...

Since White House bluster then had claimed 5-million, even allowing McKinsey an enormously generous plus/minus allowance for error, a reasonably adjusted number through February still would have been little more than 3-million signups. And that figure would have included a still undisclosed percentage of the nearly 5-million whose plans got cancelled due to the law itself. Padding the signup numbers with this demographic is about as honest as the city of Detroit remedying it's decades-long population decline by kidnapping a couple million residents from New York City.
Another qualifier affecting enrollment is the number of enrollees legitimately "insured", those who've paid their premiums, and a statistic Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius denies knowing. So then, how many have really enrolled in ObamaCare? HHS claims 6-million. I say 4.8-million. And that's being generous.

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McKinsey: Only 14% Of Obamacare Exchange Sign-Ups Are Previously Uninsured Enrollees

Avik Roy, Forbes Staff

The Obama administration has, for months now, been peddling nice-sounding numbers as to how many people are gaining health coverage due to Obamacare. But their numbers have been inflated on two fronts. First, not everyone who has “selected a marketplace plan” under Obamacare has actually paid the required premiums, payment being required to actually gain coverage. Second, only a fraction of people on the exchanges were previously uninsured. A new survey from McKinsey gives us a better view into the real numbers. Of the 3.3 million people that the White House has touted as Obamacare exchange “sign-ups,” less than 500,000 are actual uninsured people who have actually gained health coverage.

Many Obamacare ‘enrollees’ aren’t actually enrolled
McKinsey, the leading management consulting firm, has been conducting monthly surveys of the exchange-eligible population under the auspices of its Center for U.S. Health System Reform. McKinsey’s most recent survey, conducted in February with 2,096 eligible respondents, found that only 48 percent had thus far signed up for a 2014 health plan. Within that 48 percent, three-fifths were previously insured people who liked their old plans and were able to keep them. The remaining two-fifths were the ones who signed up for coverage on the Obamacare exchanges.



Of the Obamacare sign-ups, only 27 percent had been previously uninsured in 2013. And of the 27 percent, nearly half had yet to pay a premium. (By contrast, among the 73 percent who had been previously insured, 86 percent had paid.)
Put all those percentages together, and you get two key stats. Only 19 percent of those who have paid a premium were previously uninsured. Among those that the administration is touting as sign-ups, only 14 percent are previously uninsured enrollees: approximately 472,000 people as of February 1.



Those not signing up cited affordability of plans as biggest issue

Here’s an important finding from McKinsey. The authors of the study—Amit Bhardwaj, Erica Coe, Jenny Cordina, and Mahi Rayasam—asked those who decided not to enroll in a plan what their reasons were for doing so. The most frequent reason—cited by 50 percent of respondents—was that “I could not afford to pay the premium.” Only 27 percent cited technical challenges; 14 percent said they couldn’t find a plan that met their needs. 21 percent said they were still deciding.


This is the biggest problem with the way the “Affordable Care Act” approached coverage expansion. The reason why so many Americans are uninsured is because health insurance in this country is too expensive. Obamacare increases the underlying cost of health insurance, and then uses taxpayer-funded subsidies to offset those costs for some.

AP: 4.7 million Americans have had their plans canceled

Keep in mind another fact: According to the Associated Press, at least 4.7 million Americans who shop for coverage on their own have had their plans canceled because they don’t conform to Obamacare’s regulations. So Obamacare has disrupted the coverage of millions of Americans, requiring many to purchase costlier policies with higher deductibles and narrower doctor networks, for a fairly modest expansion of coverage.
According to the administration, total sign-ups now exceed 4 million. But on a recent HHS conference call, Obamacare implementation point man Gary Cohen was asked the key question: how many of the people who have signed up for Obamacare were previously insured? His response: “That’s not a data point that we are really collecting in any sort of systematic way.”
So. The whole point of Obamacare was to expand coverage to the uninsured. But for the tens of thousands of regulations that the law has imposed on the country, its authors never bothered to try to measure the one thing that they were actually trying to achieve. That about sums it all up.

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UPDATE: A Daily Kos blogger named Charles Gaba, at acasignups.net, argues that the McKinsey study “tells us pretty much nothing,” because it did not distinguish between off-exchange and on-exchange individual-market sign-ups. “My personal suspicion,” he writes, “is that the true ‘previously insured / uninsured’ breakout nationally is closer to 50/50 overall.”
Fortunately, we don’t have to rely on personal suspicions. As my colleague Scott Gottlieb notes, we have actual data from insurers on this topic; most analyses estimate that approximately 20 percent of sign-ups to date have been off the Obamacare exchanges.
If we (generously) assume that every single off-exchange signer-upper was previously insured, in order to make the math as flattering to Obamacare as possible, and that 20 percent of sign-ups were off-exchange, we arrive at the following paid enrollee breakdown on the exchange: 76 percent previously insured, 24 percent previously uninsured.

24 percent is better than 14 percent, but not so much better as to justify a furious defense of the exchanges’ performance in this regard. And the percentage of off-exchange uninsured signups is unlikely to be zero.

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INVESTORS’ NOTE: The biggest publicly-traded players in Obamacare’s health insurance exchanges are Aetna (NYSE:AET), Humana (NYSE:HUM), Cigna (NYSE:CI), Molina (NYSE:MOH), WellPoint (NYSE:WLP), and Centene (NYSE:CNC), in order of the number of uninsured exchange-eligible Americans for whom their plans are available.


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OBAMACARE SIGN-UP HOAX: Hijacking Cancelled Policy Victims Akin To Detroit Kidnapping New Yorkers

Posted by John Pastirchak on March 28, 2014 at 11:00pm
View Blog

The Obama administration is at it again. They're running up the flagpole an incredibly misleading ObamaCare enrollment figure. Typically, they're hoping we're all stupid enough to salute. Well, don't. The latest inflated number, 6-milliion, is fraught with enough stuffers to fill every coal-laden Christmas stocking on Capitol Hill next December.
According to a McKinsey Group study released earlier this month, just 14% of ObamaCare signups through February appeared to be "previously uninusured enrollees".

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/03/08/mckinsey-only-...

Since White House bluster then had claimed 5-million, even allowing McKinsey an enormously generous plus/minus allowance for error, a reasonably adjusted number through February still would have been little more than 3-million signups. And that figure would have included a still undisclosed percentage of the nearly 5-million whose plans got cancelled due to the law itself. Padding the signup numbers with this demographic is about as honest as the city of Detroit remedying it's decades-long population decline by kidnapping a couple million residents from New York City.
Another qualifier affecting enrollment is the number of enrollees legitimately "insured", those who've paid their premiums, and a statistic Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius denies knowing. So then, how many have really enrolled in ObamaCare? HHS claims 6-million. I say 4.8-million. And that's being generous.

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