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    An Open Letter To the Liars Like Forrest Carr at KGUN 9

    An Open Letter to the Liars Like Forrest Carr at KGUN 9

    Mr. Forrest Carr Director of KGUN 9 Arizona:

    In response to your open letter to me, I would like to emphatically state that I find your lies and abandonment of the ethics of Journalism to be completely disgusting. The fact that others in the media are doing what you are doing as well, or that you are couching your inaccurate and defamatory attacks on the Jesse Kelly campaign and Americans for Legal Immigration PAC as questions does not exonerate you or alleviate your responsibility to the public.

    By ambushing Jesse Kelly with the inappropriate question asking him if he is going to accept our endorsement because of "ties to Neo Nazis" which do not exist is a political attack in which you and the other liberals involved are trying to mask as legitimate Journalism.

    It was awful when the ADL lied about the character of our organization claiming that a few anonymous postings on open source racist websites constituted "ties" to our organization. It sucked when the Amnesty supporting traitor against the American people, Senator John McCain, dispatched his campaign worker to carry their attack forward. And now, it is really reaching the levels of outlandishness when people like you and Jennifer Waddell at KGUN are joined by a handful of other Obama supporting liberals in the media to try and make the false claim that we are "backed" or "tied to" Neo Nazis.

    You are citing the ADL and John McCain as if they are the source of the claims and they are not. The source of the claims are anonymous postings on websites that could have been made by anyone and that do not constitute support for us from Neo Nazis any more than the comments on anonymous websites about you which you don't control.

    In your efforts to mislead voters with falsehoods and to distract from real issues involving jobs and the economy in Arizona, you are trying to direct attention to claims John McCain and the ADL made about anonymous postings on suspect websites long ago.

    In doing so, you and KGUN and the other lying liberals carrying this false charge of collusion with Nazis are refusing to tell the public the following elements 1. ALIPAC is a multi-racial group and some of our founders are minorities. 2. ALIPAC is well documented for supporting minority groups, leaders, and candidates for public office over the last 8 years. 3. ALIPAC currently endorses 140 federal candidates including 125 members of current members of Congress. 4. ALIPAC has openly rebuked racism and racist groups on numerous occasions including canceling our participation in a rally in Phoenix for SB 1070 two years ago. 5. I have a known background for electing some of the first minorities and women to office in certain districts in NC.

    In effect, a person and organization can do all of this and make a maximum effort to avoid racist groups and associations, to recruit and welcome people of all races into an organization, and still somehow be allied with Neo Nazis and thus associated with the murder of six million Jews, is ludicrous and an incredible breach of the truth.

    On a fundamental level Mr. Carr, you and your staff and KGUN 9 broke with the ethics of Journalism on several levels, when you cast an aspersion at Mr. Kelly which was actually directed at Americans for Legal Immigration PAC disguised as a question from a viewer.

    First, you should have contacted ALIPAC for a rebuttal to the accusation. Speaking to us two years ago is not adequate. You have an ethical obligation to allow us a rebuttal. We had to contact you with our demand for retraction, and you did not contact us. Second, you have a responsibility to look further than a political source making a highly incendiary and dubious claim before broadcasting such tripe. Just because big and bad power broker John McCain says something along with the hard core leftists over at the ADL does not make it the truth or end your obligations to report these things. Especially, when you are broadcasting information that would make viewers believe a crime has been committed or that someone is associated with people who go around committing crimes against Jews and other minorities.

    The viewers of KGUN 9 and your employers should demand more fact checking and greater integrity from you Mr. Carr. When I spoke with your staff on the phone, they had no clue about ALIPAC being multi-racial and committed to non-racism. They had done no research or fact checking beyond carrying the attack of a viewer submitted question based on false political accusations from the illegal alien Amnesty supporters John McCain and the ADL.

    The clear goal of the ADL, John McCain, you, and KGUN 9 has been to damage our organization's ability to influence voters and support candidates who oppose illegal immigration or any form of Amnesty. You are resorting to defamatory attacks to accomplish your goal and you are displaying a willingness to brand the Black and Hispanic supporters of ALIPAC as Neo Nazis.

    You owe the Jesse Kelly campaign an apology, our organization an apology, the minorities who you have attempted to besmirch as being backed by Neo Nazis an apology, but more importantly your viewers deserve an apology.

    Imagine if all of the Black, Hispanic, and non-white viewers of KGUN 9 who now falsely believe that Neo Nazis who are legendary for being a threat to their well being and lives are somehow prominently involved in District 8 requiring super sleuths to root them out. Just imagine all of the false fear and concern and worry you have created by not balancing your coverage, until we demanded it, and by not checking your facts past the claims of political groups trying to scare people away from others.

    I am telling the truth about these issues and the character and makeup of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC Mr. Carr. You are telling lies and then attempting to justify the lies you have broadcast. The truth has a power that can overcome and consume you and the handful of liberal illegal immigration supporters working with you to transmit highly defamatory and dishonest claims to the public.

    We can continue to engage in this discussion as long as you like, because the more people who look into these matters the more they will find that you have acted in an unethical way and attempted to deceive and mislead the voters in Arizona and the viewers of KGUN 9 by making the false claim that our 140 federal campaigns are somehow backed by phantom Nazis.

    As far as your concerns about articles and posts on our website titled "ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADER GETS CAUGHT TRYING TO KIDNAP AND RAPE 67 YEAR OLD WOMAN", "Is everyone aware of these increasing Black mob attacks on whites across America in the last two months?", "Illegal Alien Gets 40 Years for Raping 8 Year Old on Christmas Eve", "Mexican Mafia ordered illegal alien gangs to target Blacks" being or not being "headlines of that nature indicative of fair, accurate and clear-eyed reporting of a real national problem" ?, I would answer most definitely.

    We are proud of our creation at www.ALIPAC.us which is the largest archive of information in existence on the topic of illegal immigration in the world. Thousands of Americans view our main website each day and the headlines and articles are collected and assembled by Americans of every race. Our volunteers are White, Black, Hispanic, and Native American and they work hard to get these posts and articles up each and every day.

    In fact, it is unfortunate that we find ourselves doing the job you should be doing in the media. Your confusion Mr. Carr is that you seem to keep failing to remember that you are a member of the media and it is your job to be objective, fair to both sides, and to restrain your personal political leanings in your reports. We, on the other hand, are a Political Action Committee and it is our role to generate political opinion materials.

    The fact we rewrite headlines on articles on our website reflects our honesty because much of the information we distribute is censored, blocked, or heavily distorted by illegal alien invasion supporters like you.

    By attacking multiracial groups that are fighting hard to save American jobs, property, taxpayer resources, and the very lives from being lost to millions of illegal immigrant invaders, you are a supporter of that invasion Mr. Carr, which means there is blood on your hands due to your lies and efforts.

    We, on the other hand, are innocent American defenders standing with integrity alongside our fellow Americans of every race, party, state, and walk of life who value the truth and the integrity of our political process. We stand against your abuse and your lies and we encourage you to change your ways and to support the American defenders instead of the liberal pro illegal alien invasion side you are supporting through your attacks on those fighting against racism and this invasion simultaneously.

    I should warn you that a quick Google search has found that many KGUN 9 articles are now appearing on Neo Nazi and white supremacist websites with links back to your website Mr. Carr!

    Using your criteria along with the ADL's, should we now approach Jesse Kelly's opponent Democrat Ron Barber and ask him if he would reject an endorsement from KGUN 9 because KGUN 9 has now been "TIED TO NEO NAZIS"? What do you have to say now that KGUN 9 has been tied to Neo Nazis and white supremacists?

    What do you have to say to the families of all of the Arizonans who will be killed by illegal aliens this year because liberals like you attack the Blacks, Whites, and Hispanics working together to prevent those deaths through Americans for Legal Immigration PAC as being backed by phantom Neo Nazis? What do have to say to them Mr. Carr ? Very soon they will learn of your role supporting policies contributing to those deaths and it's just a question Mr. Carr, that one of our viewers would like to know.

    If KGUN 9 wants to ask candidates about tenuous or nonexistent "ties" to Neo Nazis that were tied to the murder of six million Jews during the Holocaust, then what about your more direct and clearly documented role in the American Holocaust where thousands of Americans are being slaughtered by illegal aliens each year due to the illegal immigration invasion you support with lies and ability to broadcast via KGUN 9? Nothing can be done to bring back the six million Jews killed by the Nazis, but we can do a lot to stop the slaughter of thousands of Americans by illegal immigrants each year if we could just get liberals in the media to do their jobs and report the truth.

    Your lies and unethical actions lead to more dead Americans Forrest Carr, please stop lying and please review the ethics of Journalism 101 before you continue to directly abuse us, our minority supporters, your minority viewers, and all Americans who are concerned about illegal immigration.

    William Gheen
    President, AMERICANS FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION PAC
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    Post Office Box 30966, Raleigh, NC 27622-0966
    Tel: (919) 787-6009 Toll Free: (866) 703-0864
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    Powerful and awesome letter!!!

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    ALIPAC's Platform Statement:

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    U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: GUARANTEES AMERICA FROM INVASION!

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    W, If you are going to send this via Snail mail send it to the owners of the news station, and it's management!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    An Open Letter To the Liars Like Forrest Carr at KGUN 9

    Using your criteria along with the ADL's, should we now approach Jesse Kelly's opponent Democrat Ron Barber and ask him if he would reject an endorsement from KGUN 9 because KGUN 9 has now been "TIED TO NEO NAZIS"? What do you have to say now that KGUN 9 has been tied to neo nazis and white supremacists?
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    Carr's criteria is welcome anytime, along with anyone from KGUN9 to log in to ALIPAC and pipe right in with their 'fair' answer.

    What do you say Forrest?

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    Forrest Carr will not come here to debate. He is going to stay on his site where he can delete about half of the posts that criticize his position as some folks have recently DOCUMENTED over at KGUN 9.

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    Excellent Letter!
    The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
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    Forrest Carr still attacking ALIPAC at KGUN9


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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyBinga View Post
    Yep, saw that. Looks like he really stepped in it with this latest attack.. He put out a lot of lies in print in response to my open letter and it will be easy to show any unbiased readers how and where he is lying with ease.

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    Jesse Kelly: The Congressional Candidate Illegal Immigration Supporters Fear Most

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    Published on 05-25-2012 10:47 AM Number of Views: 814

    Friends of ALIPAC,

    We endorsed Jesse Kelly for Congress again in 2012 due to his strong stance against illegal immigration, his strong run in 2010, and the answers he provided on his ALIPAC candidate survey (Click to view).

    Now, he is under intense attack from liberal illegal immigration supporters in the ...
    U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: GUARANTEES AMERICA FROM INVASION!

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