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AFTER SNUBBING THATCHER FUNERAL, OBAMA AND MICHELLE TO VISIT SOUTH AFRICA FOR MANDELA

Posted on 6 December, 2013 by clyde



via Breitbart
by BEN SHAPIRO

On Friday, the White House announced that President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama would travel to South Africa next weeks to pay their respects to Nelson Mandela. Obama has already announced that the White House will fly the flags at half-staff though December 9 in Mandela’s honor.

When former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher died, President Obama did not lower the White House flags, nor did he attend her funeral, instead sending ex-Secretaries of State George Shultz and James Baker III. The Sun reported, “[Downing] Street is most angered by rejections from Obama, First Lady Michelle and Vice-President Joe Biden. And none of the four surviving ex-US leaders – Jimmy Carter, George Bush Sr., Bill Clinton and George Bush Jr. – is coming either.”

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Missionary mauls Mandela myth

The outpouring of adulation in the West -- even among Christians -- for Nelson Mandela astounds this prominent Christian missionary.

He has some hard words about the idolized African leader ... hard words he once delivered to Mandela face-to-face.

They cost him dearly ...

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'NELSON MANDELA WAS A RADICAL MARXIST'

Renowned Christian minister: 'He tried to destroy us, set his dogs on us'

Published: 9 hours ago

2 Videos at the Page Link:


Nelson Mandela was a radical Marxist and a firm advocate of abortion, pornography, homosexuality and legalizing prostitution, according to a prominent Christian missionary who was summoned to the home of the South African president.
Rev. Peter Hammond, founder of Frontline Fellowship and Africa Christian Nation, has worked for nearly 30 years helping persecuted Christians in Africa. As a result of Hammond’s visit with Mandela – in which the missionary laid hands on the president and prayed for him to see abortion for what it really is, the merciless slaughter of innocent human life – Hammond was subjected to a 13-year audit of his organization.
Don’t mourn for Mandela: Joseph Farah says man ‘wasn’t the saintly character portrayed by Morgan Freeman’
In 2010, Frontline released a set of two videos titled, “My Meeting with Nelson Mandela,” in which Hammond reveals the true character of the anti-apartheid revolutionary and recalls his visit with him at his home.
“I’m astounded that so many in the West idolize Mandela and lift him up as a messianic figure because they obviously don’t know what he teaches, what he believes or what he does – or his support for some of the most radical Marxist dictatorships on the planet with some of the worst human-rights records, such as the governments of Red China and Cuba,” Hammond declared. “He has supported these dictators wholeheartedly and received them with the greatest honors.”
Hammond said there are many Christians who idolize Mandela because they’ve been given false information about who the man really was.
The following are Hammond’s eye-opening statements about the late leader:

1st Video at the Page Link:

2nd Video at the Page Link:


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Obama’s Response To The Passing Of Margaret Thatcher A Far Cry From That Of Nelson Mandela..

Posted on 8 December, 2013 by Dylan



(Lonely Conservative)

The other day someone tried to leave a comment on a post I did about Nelson Mandela calling me a racist. Ho hum. That’s the new thing, if you don’t worship the idols of the left you’re a racist. Mandela was a radical communist, pardon me for pointing it out. (It’s okay when Think Progress points it out, just like it was okay when some communist party on twitter celebrated his legacy.)
Do people even know true racism when they see it anymore, the way the left has trivialized it so? I was just a kid during the Cold War, so I certainly wasn’t an apartheid supporter or apologist. I do remember worrying about things like, oh, I don’t know, nuclear war. Thankfully Ronald Reagan came along and eased those fears. He had no greater ally in the Cold War than the late British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.
Under President Obama’s leadership does the US have staunch allies anymore? I can’t think of any. He not only didn’t bother attending the funeral of the Iron Lady, he didn’t even send an official from his administration. But what do you expect when one of the first things he did as president was to return the bust of Winston Churchill to the British?
The left had no problem trashing Thatcher when she passed, but pointing out the factual record of Nelson Mandela is racist. Pointing out how he was a terrorist? Racist. Pointing out how South Africa is now the murder capital of the world? Racist. Pointing out that blacks in South Africa are plagued with AIDS? Racist. Pointing out how Mandela was a proud supporter of Fidel Castro, who had no problem imprisoning gays and blacks? Racist. Pointing out how being white in South Africa could lead to one’s rape or murder? Racist. Pointing out how being black in South Africa could lead to one’s rape or murder? Racist. Pointing out how being a child in South Africa can lead to one’s rape or murder? Racist. Thou shall not speak ill of Saint Nelson of the Blessed Necklace!
So I suppose it’s also racist of me to point out that other than a little statement issued by President Obama, the passing of Lady Thatcher was a big meh. But for Mandela the communist revolutionary, he not only ordered all flags to be flown at half mast, he and the first lady will be traveling to South Africa to attend Mandela’s funeral.
Sadly, many on our side are also joining in the canonization of Mandela. The left re-wrote history and the right embraces their revision. People don’t even know the facts about Mandela. All they know is he ended apartheid, called for reconciliation, and maybe they know he stepped down after one term. That’s it. That’s what they know. The rest is just scrubbed out. They’d scrub out the whole Cold War if they could. Maybe they could blame it all on Joe McCarthy. The Soviets did help us defeat Hitler, right? Just forget everything they did after that! Hitler was bad. Defeating him was good. That’s all you need to know. That wall in Germany? Meh, they tore it down eventually. The millions of innocents who died under the Soviet regime? Never mind, they just didn’t have the right managers in place.
One thing I can say about Mandela is that he was smart. After being tried and convicted in a court of law for his terrorist acts he was imprisoned. He used that time to reshape his message, clean up his image and become a martyr. When he took power he knew that practicing the brutal tactics of his comrades wouldn’t mesh with his martyr persona. Had he followed in their footsteps he would have been just another despot admired openly by the likes of Sean Penn, Denis Rodman and other useful idiots. Quite a brilliant strategy.
As for Margaret Thatcher, some of us do still deeply appreciate her strength, resolve, and genuine friendship with the American people during a most harrowing time in our history. It’s just a shame that her efforts and accomplishments, along with those of Ronald Reagan, only led to a pause in the march of communism in the world.

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DON'T MOURN FOR MANDELA

Exclusive: Joseph Farah says man 'wasn't the saintly character portrayed by Morgan Freeman'
JOSEPH FARAH
12/06/2013

He was not Martin Luther King Jr. He was not Mahatma Gandhi. And he was certainly not George Washington, as Barack Obama claimed.

He was a committed member of the South African Communist Party. He was a leader of the revolutionary African National Congress, which he helped to radicalize into an organization sworn to armed, violent attacks.

Maybe you say: “But Farah, he was fighting against the evil of Apartheid!”

Yes, that is true. Apartheid was inarguably an evil and unjustifiable system. But so is the system Mandela’s revolution brought about – one in which anti-white racism is so strong today that a prominent genocide watchdog group has labeled the current situation a “precursor” to the deliberate, systematic elimination of the race.

In other words, the world has been sold a bill of goods about Mandela. He wasn’t the saintly character portrayed by Morgan Freeman. He wasn’t someone fighting for racial equality. He was the leader of a violent, Communist revolution that has nearly succeeded in all of its grisly horror.

But don’t believe me.

I’ve never been to South Africa – not during Apartheid and not after.

Instead, listen to Sonia Hruska. She was an early supporter of Mandela and worked in his administration.

“After about six years,” Hruska said, “I realized something serious is wrong; the communist elements are taking over, it’s not what we were promised.”

What did she see that the rest of the world missed?

“As a business owner, I can get 25 years in jail time if I do employ a white person, for instance,” she said. “It is totally ridiculous; you cannot have imagined that affirmative action could have gone so far.”

Today, in South Africa’s white population of 4 million, 1 million live in utter poverty.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

Hruska describes routine, violent, racist atrocities of almost unimaginable proportions: Kidnap murders, home invasions, gang rapes.

“It’s heinous torture,” Hruska explained. “Even children as young as 2 months old get burned with hot water, get wrapped in newspaper and burned.”

In the case of one family, Hruska described a black mob breaking into a home, waiting for the white family to get home, then raping the mother in front of the father and son to see. Then, after killing the mother, they killed the father and son by plunging them into boiling water.

She said: “There is no easy way of saying exactly how these people are tortured. The standard would be a hot iron, electric iron, boiling water … and these are carried out for hours.”

You will read today many stories describing Mandela as a “political prisoner.”

In fact, he served 27 years in prison for 23 specific acts of sabotage and attempting to overthrow the government.

It was only a year ago that some of the international press began to report the truth about Mandela for the first time. Last December, the London Telegraph reported that, indeed, the records showed Mandela was not only a member of the South African Communist Party, he held a “senior rank.”

By the way, Mandela was offered his freedom while incarcerated many times. All he had to do was renounce terrorism. He wouldn’t do it.

Of course, it’s fashionable to forget about all of this today. Nelson Mandela is dead. He is being proclaimed a saint all over the world.

Nevertheless, these inconvenient truths need to be stated by someone because the Mandela mythology is as dangerous as the terror he and his followers perpetrated on so many innocent victims – white and black.

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‘He was not an AMERICAN!’: Sheriff defies Obama’s order to lower flag for Mandela

December 7, 2013 by Janeen Capizola

Pickens County Sheriff Rick Clark
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For one South Carolina sheriff, defying President Obama’s order to lower the American flag to half-staff in honor of former South African PresidentNelson Mandela is simple: Mandela “was not an American.”

Pickens County Sheriff Rick Clark took toFacebook Friday to explain to seemingly supportive residents why he will not lower the flag at the Sheriff’s Office for Mandela, despite Obama’s Dec. 5 Presidential Proclamation:

I usually don’t post political items, but today is different. I received this notification today, “As a mark of respect for the memory of Nelson Mandela, the President orders that the flag of the United States be flown at half-staff effective immediately until sunset, December 9, 2013″

Nelson Mandela did great things for his country and was a brave man but he was not an AMERICAN!!! The flag should be lowered at our Embassy in S. Africa, but not here. Our flag is at half staff today for a Deputy in the low country who died going to help his fellow Deputy. He deserves the honor. I have ordered that the flag here at my office back up after tomorrow’s mourning of Pearl Harbor Day!

On Thursday, Obama took the rare step of ordering all American flags on government buildings lowered to half-staff until Monday, Dec. 9 in honor of the death of a foreign leader.

According to NPR, Obama did not issue the same proclamation upon the death of former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

“In fact, the last foreign dignitary to be memorialized with the flag was Pope John Paul II in 2005,” NPR reported.
The Presidential Proclamation on the death of Nelson Mandela read, in part:

As a mark of respect for the memory of Nelson Mandela, by the authority vested in me as President of the United States by the Constitution and laws of the United States of America, I hereby order that the flag of the United States shall be flown at half-staff at the White House and upon all public buildings and grounds, at all military posts and naval stations, and on all naval vessels of the Federal Government in the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its Territories and possessions until sunset, December 9, 2013. I also direct that the flag shall be flown at half-staff for the same length of time at all United States embassies, legations, consular offices, and other facilities abroad, including all military facilities and naval vessels and stations.

H/T: Talking Points Memo
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Nelson Mandela’s Fruits and a Racist South Africa

Posted by Bill Bissell, Admin II on December 7, 2013 at 10:34am in Patriot Action Alerts
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Almost as instantly as the news broke that Nelson Mandela had died, the cable news networks – including Fox News – all kicked into high gear, paying incessant tribute to the deceased Communist hero. Much of the reverence for Mandela is quite politically correct in nature. Here was a black man who had been liberated after being jailed for three decades by a ‘white’ government. He then led the country that jailed him. It was “story book”, to quote Joe Biden, who once said of Barack Obama that he was an “articulate and bright and clean and nice looking guy”.



Mandela with his wife Winnie and South African Communist Party President Joe Slovo.

There is a myriad of problems with the elevation of Mandela; he was a leader within the South African Communist Party (SACP), despite his denials to the contrary. On the SACP website is the transcript of a speech Mandela gave at the “Rally to Relaunch the South African Communist Party” on July 29, 1990. At the time, Mandela was identified as the Deputy President (later President) of the African National Congress (ANC). Here are some excerpts from the speech:

We are here today to participate with you in the public launch of the Communist Party, 40 years after it was banned. We do this because during the nearly 70 years of its existence, the Communist Party has distinguished itself as an ally in the common struggle to end the racial oppression and exploitation of the black masses of our country. It has fought side by side with the ANC for the common objective of the National Liberation of people, without seeking to impose its views on our movement.
It has been and is a dependable friend who respected our independence and our policy. Its members have been devoted Congressites who, as members of the ANC, have propagated and defended the policies of our movement, including the Freedom Charter, without hesitation. They have therefore given strength to our own movement, whatever their separate perspectives might be as an independent political formation.
Its leaders have been close friends and colleagues of the leaders of our movement. The general secretary of the Communist Party, comrade Joe Slovo, is an old friend. There is an old established friendship between his family and mine. We went to university together. We were co-accused in the Treason Trial of 1956 to 1961.

In a game of good cop / bad cop, the ANC might be perceived as the good cop and the SACP as the bad. In the speech, Mandela was careful to communicate that he was not a member of the SACP but wanted it and the ANC united (wink, wink):

The ANC is not a Communist Party. But as a defender of democracy, it has fought and will continue to fight for the right of the Communist Party to exist. As a movement for national liberation, the ANC has no mandate to espouse a Marxist ideology. But as a democratic movement, as a Parliament of the people of our country, the ANC has defended and will continue to defend the right of any South African to adhere to the Marxist ideology if that is their wish.

That is inherently contradictory. Marxism, by its very nature, is antithetical to democracy, assuming democracy is supposed to be synonymous with freedom. These are word games. One may debate whether Marxism should be banned but in that speech, Mandela was embracing it; there is a big difference.


Mandela embraced Marxists.

If there is any doubt that this was an attempt to play both sides of the fence, consider the discoveries of Stephen Ellis, a left-leaning professor at Amsterdam University, relayed in an article at the New American. Alex Newman wrote about these discoveries, which revealed Mandela’s allegiances:

Among other evidence, Ellis found minutes from a secret SACP meeting of top leaders in 1982. The papers document a high-level Communist Party functionary’s discussion about Mandela having joined the SACP around 20 years earlier. That would mean he joined in the beginning of the 1960s, probably 1961 or 1962, well before he was prosecuted for, among numerous other crimes, membership in the outlaw party backed by some of the most ruthless tyrants on the face of the Earth.
“There was an accusation that we opposed allowing Nelson [Mandela] and Walter [Sisulu, a fellow activist] into the Family [a code word for the party],” Communist leader and SACP Central Committee member John Pule Motshabi was quoted as saying in the minutes. “We were not informed because this was arising after the 1950 campaigns [a series of street protests]. The recruitment of the two came after.”

As Cliff Kincaid points out at America’s Survival, this would make Mandela a liar.
A bit later in Newman’s article, it’s revealed that apologists for Mandela’s membership seemed to put forth an argument that he had ulterior motives but was well-intentioned:

Experts including Ellis, who first identified and publicized the documents, said it was some of the most compelling evidence to date proving that Mandela was actually a member of the SACP. However, some analysts attempted to dismiss the new finds as insignificant, portraying the former South African president’s party membership as a mere alliance of convenience that was supposedly necessary to overthrow the existing government.

That twisted line of reasoning is reminiscent of what Bill Clinton put forth at the funeral of Democratic U.S. Senator Robert Byrd, who had been a Grand Kleagle with the Ku Klux Klan. Clinton said the former KKK Grand Kleagle joined such a group because it was in the best interests of his constituents.



Becoming a leader within a murderous movement in the name of helping people is the worst kind of oxymoron.
In 2000, international correspondent Anthony C. Lobaido, covered the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC), a group assembled to investigate South African atrocities committed both by the Apartheid government and the ANC. According to Lobaido, innocent and defenseless people suffered heinous deaths as a result of Mandela and his wife. Lobaido wrote:

The crimes committed by the ANC in the name of liberation are legion. First, there was the practice of“necklacing,” in which a gasoline-filled tire is placed around the neck of a victim and set ablaze — an action carried out by Winnie Mandela and her minions. Another horror was the “Church Street Massacre,” in which Nelson Mandela approved of a bomb set to explode at rush hour to maximize casualties of Afrikaner women, children and babies.
The same Mandela who told the black youth of South Africa to “burn down” their schools has produced a lawless, unemployable generation. Mandela recently traveled to Libya and presented Gadhafi with South Africa’s highest military medal.

A bit later, Lobaido wrote about the conditions of South Africa just a few short years after the fall of the Apartheid government:

Media coverage of the new South Africa has been muted at best, rarely focusing on ANC-sponsored anarchy. Indeed, South Africa, once a rich and prosperous pro-West, first-world nation, has decayed into anarchy over the past six years.

In the thirteen years that have passed since Lobaido’s article, the situation in South Africa has gotten worse. Despicable and heinous crimes are being committed by blacks against whites, particularly white farmers.
In an article that appeared at Genocide Watch entitled The Gruesome Reality of Racist South Africa, Arnold Ahlert explains:

In 1994, Nelson Mandela and his Marxist African National Congress (ANC) assumed the reins of power. The international community looked away, satisfied that justice had prevailed. They continue to look away, even as South Africa has degenerated into another racist pit, best described by an Afrikaner farm owner:“It’s politically correct to kill whites these days.”
In July of 2012, Dr. Gregory Stanton, head of the nonprofit group Genocide Watch, conducted a fact- finding mission in South Africa. He concluded that there is a coordinated campaign of genocide being conducted against white farmers, known as Boers. “The farm murders, we have become convinced, are not accidental,” Stanton contended. “It was very clear that the massacres were not common crimes,” he added — especially because of the absolute barbarity used against the victims…
…Many victims, including women and infant children, are raped or tortured before they are killed. Some have boiling water poured down their throats, some are burned with hot pokers, and some are hacked to death with machetes, or disemboweled. Several others have been tied to their own cars and dragged for miles….

The President of both South Africa and The African National Congress (ANC) is a man named Jacob Zuma, who dismisses charges of racist crimes. If the argument against Apartheid was that it was a racist government, one should be able to rightfully expect that those who sought to replace it would want to go out of their way to avoid becoming what they despised. When it comes to Zuma, that doesn’t appear to be the case.
Ahlert writes:

…the ANC celebrated in 100th year anniversary with a song led by President Zuma himself. “Dubula iBhunu” or “Shoot the Boer” was a line in the lyrics of an apartheid-era song, “Ayesaba Amagwala” (“the cowards are scared”) that violates the South Africa constitution prohibiting the “advocacy of hatred that is based on race … and that constitutes incitement to cause harm.” Yet Zuma apparently felt no compunction to refrain from singing it, because the ANC considers it an integral part of the anti- apartheid movement that is part of their heritage.

Jacob Zuma: South Africa’s President.

In 2010, Julius Malema, then leader of the ANC Youth League, revived the practice of singing the song after many years. After the South Africa High Court ruled it was hate speech, the ANC appealed. Last October, the ANC and AfriForum, a lobby group that wanted the song banned from public performance, reached an out-of-court settlement.
After Mandela’s death, Zuma spoke glowingly of the former leader.
Another problem for the pro-Mandela crowd has to do with both his associates and the fruit borne of this ANC / SACP alliance. The word “Apartheid” became synonymous with repressive governance. Now that Apartheid is gone, South Africa is controlled by the black majority, led by Zuma. Yet, the South Africa of today is home to the most brutal manifestations of racism.
Two wrongs do not a right make.
Speaking of Wright, in one of his most notorious speeches, in which he said, “America’s Chickens are coming home to roost”, Barack Obama’s pastor – Jeremiah Wright – equated the plight of blacks in South Africa to the plight of Palestinians at the hands of the Israelis:

“We (U.S. Government) have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africansand now we are indignant!”

Consider just how hated the Jews are by the Arab Muslims. They are hated far more than Afrikaners were by blacks. Yet, when the Afrikaners were removed from power, they are subjected to unheard of atrocities. Should we therefore conclude that if the “Apartheid” government of Israel were removed, Jews would be subjected to even worse atrocities?



Mandela’s successor as President of South Africa was a man named Thabo Mbeki. Like Zuma, Mbeki held Mandela in high regard, even penning a poem in Mandela’s honor. In the last paragraph of his 2000 article, Lobaido revealed something very telling about Mbeki, especially in light of what the world has learned about a certain far left-wing billionaire:

In recent weeks, current South African President Thabo Mbeki (who admits he grew up memorizing the works of Karl Marx) has announced that South Africa has formed an alliance with communist China. For decades, South Africa had helped Taiwan, but last year, Mandela switched official recognition from Taiwan to China. Mbeki has applauded the seizures of white-owned farms in neighboring Zimbabwe,even as ANC black revolutionary cadres step up their terror campaign against white farmers in South Africa. His communist flank secure, Mbeki recently announced in a speech to parliament that he is effectively handing over control of South Africa’s economy to international financier George Soros and a group of 12 Western transnational corporations.

There is also a reason why Mandela and Cuba’s longtime Marxist President Fidel Castro were so cozy with one another. The Soviet Union and Castro backed Mandela’s ANC. In particular, both the Soviets and the Cubans sent troops and money to help the ANC fight the Afrikaners in Angola. In this video, Hollywood actor Harry Belafonte refers to the relationship, saying:

“one of the greatest friends that Cuba has is Nelson Mandela and his appreciation for what the Cuban people did and Fidel Castro.”

Belafonte spoke these words as video of Mandela and Castro embracing – multiple times – is seen:
What such people would have one believe is that the Afrikaners were the evil oppressors and the ANC was fighting for its own survival. That’s not accurate, according to Lobaido:

Through the work of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, the gulags of northern Angola — where the ANC mutilated and tortured cadres who would not go along with the terrorist campaign — have also been brought to light. The ANC has admitted that torture and “staggering brutality” were committed at their Angolan re-education camps in the 1980s and “could have caused prisoner deaths.” In an internal report, the ANC documented 17 eyewitness accounts of detainees who survived the camps.

These are the fruits of Nelson Mandela, his ANC, his associations, and his ideology.
Once again, the media is missing in action when it comes to reporting the truth.

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