Thread: BREAKING: Cliven Bundy Responds To Charges Of Racism: ‘The Statement Was Right’

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Posted on Apr 24, 2014
By Caleb Howe



BREAKING: Cliven Bundy Responds To Charges Of Racism: ‘The Statement Was Right’

“That’s exactly what I said. I said I’m wondering if they’re better off under government subsidy, and their young women are having the abortions and their young men are in jail, and their older women and their children are standing, sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do, you know, I’m wondering: Are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves, and they was able to have their family structure together, and the chickens and garden, and the people had something to do?

And so, in my mind I’m wondering, are they better off being slaves, in that sense, or better off being slaves to the United States government, in the sense of the subsidies. I’m wondering. That’s what. And the statement was right. I am wondering.”

http://therightscoop.com/breaking-cl...ent-was-right/

From the blog (overwhelming support for Cliven Bundy, BACKLASH at the attempts to DEMONIZE Mr. Bundy as a racist * terrorist thug *)

392 Comments

Josefa • 4 minutes ago

A black unborn baby is 5 times more likely to be aborted than a white unborn baby ( research from Allan Guttmacher Institute). The black race is targeted by the current eugenics pimps by placing the " merchant of Death" abortion clinics in minority neighborhoods.
There have been over 20 million black unborn children killed by the current "modern" eugenics culture. There should be 60 million blacks in the US but there are only 39 million.
The most successful racists that have killed the most black people EVER are liberal, abortion loving trendies. ( plus they get paid with gov't subsidies for killing all of them!)

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Justanother Serf • 10 minutes ago

I totally understood what he was saying. I honestly believe he feels sorry for blacks and that they are no better off today than they were 150 years ago....because of the government. I didn't hear one once of racism.


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Professor Fate • 13 minutes ago It's the 'Duck Dynasty', Phil Robertson kerfuffle all over again. These honest men have no clue how the Leftist media loves to twist their words, ask them leading questions and denigrate them for speaking the truth and not being 'politically correct'. Mr" Bundy is correct of course, but, heaven forfend the truth should be spoken and Liberal deceptions exposed.


Of course these puke-gutted Republicans run from him like he has the plague instead of using this as a talking point about government dependence. They're so scared of the Liberal media it makes me sick.

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Vitt • 15 minutes ago

His questions and statements are 100% valid. The MSM is having a field day spinning thid though. The unthinking masses are falling for it hard too. Just go read the article about this on the New York Post. It will piss you off

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Oboy_must_go • 21 minutes ago

Want to see a racist? Look at Eric Holder.


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the_logician • 24 minutes ago

As usual, the mainstreet media spins the rancher's rural colloquialisms as racism. That should not surprise or stun anyone who is aware of the agenda of the MSM. The reality is that a lot of people have drawn comparisons between slavery and dependency on the welfare state before; its nothing new.


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KB Ramsey • 26 minutes ago

The New York Times are The True Racists---have you ever seen the history of THEIR HIRING PRACTICES??? The New York Times also has a history of loving murderous dictators (i.e. Their past articles about Stalin's murderous policy on Ukraine). The New York Times also loves to verbally stomp on middle class Americans that believe that they shouldn't have their taxes continually increased. Basically, the NYT is a phony rag. Wake up America !!!!

Cliven Bundy Says ‘The Negro’ Comments Taken Out Of Context [Carol Bundy Interview]

Cliven Bundy has come under fire for “the negro” comments made during a Saturday press conference at Bundy ranch. A New York Times article about the public meeting has gone viral and drawing backlash as the Nevada rancher has been deemed a racist. The speech Bundy made was recorded and still available for watch online. The statements made by the Nevada rancher who garnered support from hundreds of thousands of people around the world after armed BLM agents arrived in Bunkerville, do appear to have been taken out of context.

The New York Times article which has now been republished by The Blaze and a host of other media outlets, does not include a video of Cliven Bundy’s speech or a comment from the Gold Butte are rancher about the allegedly derogatory racial statement. The Times piece stated that Bundy wondered whether “blacks might have been better off as slaves picking cotton” when referencing the rancher’s remarks about “the negro.”

The excerpt, taken out of context, could easily be construed as an utterance by someone with a racial bias, but when followed by the rest of Cliven Bundy’s remarks about the lack of freedom in America despite the passage of decades and the heralding of the work ethic and regard for family by Mexican immigrants, both legal and illegal, the racism claims appear to unravel.

Carol Bundy, Cliven’s wife, accepted a telephone interview request with The Inquisitr, and explained in detail what her husband’s motivation was for his words, and encouraged everyone to watch the recorded encounter to garner a more clear understanding of what was actually said.

Carol Bundy on Cliven’s remarks:

“What he was saying, and perhaps not as eloquently as was relayed, that America is becoming a welfare state that makes us more reliant upon the government and eats away at the freedom of us all. He was attempting to point out what little progress has been made for black people who once lived in slavery. During that point in our history, black people were totally reliant upon someone else for their food, homes, etc. and not much has changed, sadly, in many cases for poor black families. Slavery was wrong, horrible, and we do not support that. Cliven was trying to illustrate how dire the situation was not only in the past, but currently, and how it will negatively impact the future, if Americans, of any color, continue to be dependent upon the government to survive.”

Of course any loving wife will support her husband and desperately want to stop any bashing against him, but Carol’s take on Cliven’s speech and mindset do appear to coincide with the entirety of his speech about the state of many poor black families in his area of Nevada. Just before launching into the comparison about black people living under slavery and the modern poor black family, Bundy was addressing government bureaucracy, freedom to earn a living and use resources, and the number of people now living dependent upon the government to meet their daily needs. Carol also referenced history and fate of Native Americans and how the federal government infringed upon their freedoms, leaving whole generations of families living on reservations without many prospects for a self-reliant existence.


Excerpt from the Bundy ranch press conference which reference Mexican immigrants:

“Now let me talk about the Spanish people. You know I understand that they come over here against our Constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people. I’ve worked side-by-side a lot of them. Don’t tell me they don’t work. Don’t tell me they don’t have better family structures than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together. And I’ll tell you, in my way of thinking, they’re awful nice people.”

Cliven Bundy is nearly 70, he comes from a generation that had never heard the phrase political correctness. His “the negro” phrasing may have raised eyebrows, but after listening to his speech several times, it truly does not seem that his intend was to diminish the evils of slavery or chastise a specific race of people. According to both Carol Bundy’s interview statements and the recorded speech, Cliven was attempting, in his own unpolished manner, to note how a lack of freedom and reliance upon the government has negatively impacted the America family and the concept of self-reliance.

In Bundy’s view, having too much time on your hands, being unaware of the sense of accomplishment which comes working to provide for the family, and not having enough money to engage in positive leisure activities sparked the troubles which face not only low-income and minority neighborhoods, but increasing the nation as a whole.

Cliven referenced the intent of the Founding Fathers for the new nation they gave birth to and the sense of duty we have to correct the course we are currently on to ensure freedom and the benefits of self-reliance and not government dependence for future generations.

How do you feel about Cliven Bundy’s comments?

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Black Conservative: I don’t care if Cliven Bundy is a racist

Posted on Apr 24, 2014
By The Right Scoop

We live in a world of "correct speech" media has used this as a hammer to pound people into line, I grew up in a world of ww2 vets who did not use PC speech however they were super honest and always willing to help neighbors no matter the color, honestly I judge men on what they do not what they say but I'm old school.

GLENN BECK THROWS CLIVEN BUNDY UNDER THE (RACIST) BUS

WND EXCLUSIVE

Black leader says Bundy remarks not racist

Contends rancher talking about harm to African-Americans by 'leftist socialism'

Published: 13 hours ago Bob Unruh

A prominent black leader is coming to the defense of embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who was pilloried on Thursday after the New York Times published a quote by him referencing slavery.

“He wasn’t talking so much about black folks, but about the harm and damage that the leftist socialism has done to blacks,” said former U.N. Ambassador Alan Keyes, who also is a columnist for WND.
The New York Times, in a report by Adam Nagourney, said Bundy, in a daily meeting Saturday with reporters and photographers covering his case, made the comments that critics are calling racist.
“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” Nagourney quoted Bundy saying.
Bundy was recalling public housing projects in North Las Vegas.
“And in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids – and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch – they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do,” he said.
“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
Ammon Bundy, Cliven Bundy’s son, told WND that the quotes were taken out of context and that his father was commiserating over the poor situation in which blacks find themselves because of oppressive government programs, regulations and practices.
Keyes said that was evident.
“I find it appalling that we basically have a history of the leftist liberalism that wants to extinguish black people by abortion [and] destroying the family structure,” Keyes told WND. “All of these things if you just look at the effects, you would say this was planned by some racist madman to destroy the black community.”
Discover America’s real black-white history, in “Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black and White.”
Then when somebody comes along to comment on that damage, the leftists all scream “racism,” he said.
“I think it’s time somebody started to recognize the racism that exists in its effects – the hard leftist ideology using the black community for their sacrificial lamb, for their sick ideology. It’s time we called them what they are,” he said.
“Now it’s racist to point it out.”
Ammon Bundy told WND: “They took what they wanted. They knew when they were there his comments were not racist. He wasn’t able to completely articulate. That’s just my dad. He is a very principled person.
He said he was “there standing right beside my father when he made those comments.”
“He was reaching out to the black community,” Ammon Bundy said.
“Growing up around him, and being beside him, I never once heard him say anything negative about any race,” he said. “I wish I could say that about everyone else I’ve been around. The black community, the white community, they joke back and forth. My father’s never lowered himself.”
Ammon Bundy said his father’s message “was taken out of context.”
The point was that the government “has kept them oppressed,” he said. “They’ve never been given a situation to be able to thrive, get themselves out of slavery.”
The Right Scoop blog reported Cliven Bundy confirmed he was wondering about what’s best for blacks.
“That’s exactly what I said. I said I’m wondering if they’re better off under government subsidy, and their young women are having the abortions and their young men are in jail, and their older women and their children are standing, sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do, you know, I’m wondering: Are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves, and they was able to have their family structure together, and the chickens and garden, and the people had something to do? And so, in my mind I’m wondering, are they better off being slaves, in that sense, or better off being slaves to the United States government, in the sense of the subsidies. I’m wondering. That’s what. And the statement was right. I am wondering.”

1st video at link below

Bundy, 67, has been in the headlines over the past few weeks for his defiance of the federal government’s demand that he pay grazing fees. The federal Bureau of Land Management responded with an operation to confiscate and sell off his cattle.
Bundy claims that since his ranch operation, run by his family for more than 100 years, was grazing cattle before the BLM existed, his fees should be paid to the state, not Washington. More than 1,000 supporters, including armed militia members, joined Bundy at his ranch in a standoff with federal agents.
The federal agents backed down April 12, released the cattle and left the area.
WND reported just days ago Cliven Bundy’s interview with radio talk show host Dianne Linderman on the nationally syndicated “Everything That Matters” show.
On Easter Sunday, he said he respects the federal government, pledging allegiance to the flag.
“But [the government] has its place. It doesn’t have its place in the state of Nevada and … Clark County, and that’s where my ranch is. The federal government has no power and no ownership of this land, and they don’t want to accept that,” he said.
“I don’t stand alone,” he continued, “I have all of the prayers from lots of people around the world, and I feel those prayers. And those prayers take the tremble out of my legs. And I can stand strong and straight. And you know the spirit from our heavenly Father, I seek that every morning on my knees. And he gives me some guidance, and I go forth and I actually feel good. My health is good, my spirit is good and I feel strength. I do, I feel strength, I feel even happiness. And I have no idea where I’m going with this. It’s a day-by-day spiritual thing for me.”
Listen to Dianne Linderman’s entire 18-minute Easter interview with Cliven Bundy:

2nd video at link below

Related columns:
New York Times sting entraps Bundy by Joseph Farah
Why the land belongs to Bundy by Ilana Mercer
Additional reports
Bundy’s son: N.Y. Times quote ‘out of context’
Harry’s war — David Kupelian on what’s really behind the targeting of Cliven Bundy


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/black-lea...ZKvpO1YgeKZ.99

BUNDY UNCUT: Here’s The Full Clip Of Bundy’s “Negro” Remarks, Did NYT Twist His Words?

By Clash Daily / 25 April 2014
Watch Bundy explain how we need to keep things from going backwards for blacks, and how the Federal government has created a neo-slave class via entitlement dependency that is so bad it is arguably worse than plantation slavery was. It is 100% clear that Cliven Bundy is not saying that blacks should be slaves picking cotton, but that the Federal government has created conditions for them so terrible, that their current situation may actually be worse.
Here is the full video clip of Cliven Bundy’s remarks:

Here is the edited clip that was being promoted by the New York Times and other media outlets:



Read more: Pat Dollard

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Black Marine says Clive Bundy is NOT a racist

FEATURED, PLUTOPIANS, RACISM 25 COMMENTS



Below is what a black Marine has to say about the Clive Bundy comment.

Charlie Delta
The media distorts information to the point of social division. This is a photo of myself and the resilient, often charismatic, and maybe not so tactful Cliven Bundy. He’s a cowboy and a helluva family man, not an orator. One thing he definitely isn’t – a racist. I found his comments to not only be NOT racist, but his own view of his experiences. Who the heck are we to determine another man’s perspective on the world around him?! Just because Picasso’s view of the world was abstract, does it negate the fact that his art was genuine? Furthermore, if you take the time to do your own research, you’ll find that his statements about some black Americans actually hold weight. He posed a hypothetical question. He said, “I wonder IF” … Hell, I’m black and I often wonder about the same about the decline of the black family. Bottom line is that we are all slaves in this waning republic, no matter our skin color. Mr. Bundy could have used any racial demographic as an example: Native Americans on reservations, whites in trailer parks, etc. He noticed the crippling effects of receiving government “assistance” and the long term result of accepting handouts. It’s not progress at all. I challenge Sean Hannity, Rand Paul, and others to read my comment and reconsider their position in this matter. Individual liberties are at stake here, yours and mine. THAT is the issue. Don’t let the liberal media and ignoramuses like Glenn Beck and that weasel Harry Reid make you lose sight of the real issue here: The federal government is a burgeoning behemoth and a bully on a once constitutional playground.I sincerely hope you real patriots out there who can see through the smoke.Semper Fidelis

For my part, I say to the Left, shove Clive Bundy’s statement up your Harry Reids!

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Bundy's son: N.Y. Times quote 'out of context'
Newspaper reports 'racist' comments by Nevada rancher

Published: 1 day ago
author-image Bob Unruh

Cliven Bundy

A comment by embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy about blacks and slavery was taken out of context by the New York Times, according to Bundy’s son, Ammon Bundy, who told WND in an interview Thursday his father was trying to reach out to the black and Hispanic communities.

“They took what they wanted. They knew when they were there his comments were not racist. He wasn’t able to completely articulate,” Ammon Bundy told WND. “That’s just my dad. He is a very principled person.”

The Times, in a report by Adam Nagourney, said Cliven Bundy, in a daily meeting Saturday with reporters and photographers covering his case, made the comments that critics are calling racist.

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” Nagourney quoted Bundy saying.
Bundy was recalling public housing projects in North Las Vegas.

“And in front of that government house, the door was usually open and the older people and the kids – and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch – they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Ammon Bundy told WND: “I was there standing right beside my father when he made those comments. He was reaching out to the black community.”

He explained his father was commenting on the fact that while blacks were “in slavery on plantations, now because of the welfare system, they continue to be in slavery.”

“He desires the black community to have freedom,” Ammon Bundy said.
Discover America’s real black-white history, in “Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black and White.”

“Growing up around him, and being beside him, I never once heard him say anything negative about any race,” Ammon Bundy said. “I wish I could say that about everyone else I’ve been around. The black community, the white community, they joke back and forth. My father’s never lowered himself.”

Of course, “his message was taken out of context,” he said.
The point was that the government “has kept them oppressed,” Ammon Bundy said. “They’ve never been given a situation to be able to thrive, get themselves out of slavery.”

He recalled his father’s respect for the black community and his gratitude.

Cliven Bundy was working in Los Angeles during the Watts riots in 1965.
“Everything was in chaos, fires everywhere,” Ammon Bundy told WND, recalling the stories from his father.
“He felt he needed to get back to his hotel. He took the chance and actually got on the freeway,” he said. “He’s driving down this freeway, and these two vehicles full of black men came up on each side.”

Ammon Bundy said his father was afraid at first, but the cars simply stayed beside him until he left the freeway.

“He realized, he felt that they were his guardian angels, actually escorting him through the city,” he said.

The Right Scoop blog was reporting that Cliven Bundy confirmed he is wondering about what’s best for blacks.

“That’s exactly what I said. I said I’m wondering if they’re better off under government subsidy, and their young women are having the abortions and their young men are in jail, and their older women and their children are standing, sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do, you know, I’m wondering: Are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves, and they was able to have their family structure together, and the chickens and garden, and the people had something to do? And so, in my mind I’m wondering, are they better off being slaves, in that sense, or better off being slaves to the United States government, in the sense of the subsidies. I’m wondering. That’s what. And the statement was right. I am wondering.”

Bundy, 67, has been in the headlines over the past few weeks for his defiance of the federal government’s demand that he pay grazing fees. The federal Bureau of Land Management responded with an operation to confiscate and sell off his cattle.
Bundy claims that since his ranch operation, run by his family for more than 100 years, was grazing cattle before the BLM existed, his fees should be paid to the state, not Washington. More than 1,000 supporters, including armed militia members, joined Bundy at his ranch in a standoff with federal agents.

The federal agents backed down April 12, released the cattle and left the area.
The Washington Post noted some lawmakers have been supportive of Bundy.
Sen. Dean Heller, R-Nev., however, has distanced himself, saying through a spokeswoman that he “completely disagrees with Mr.

Bundy’s appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way.”
Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., who had suggested Bundy had some valid concerns, said: “His remarks on race are offensive, and I wholeheartedly disagree with him.”

The Times report said the dispute, which was rekindled lately by Sen. Harry Reid’s description of Bundy supporters as “domestic terrorists,” has sparked a nationwide wave of concern over the federal government and its management of Western lands.
In Texas, Attorney General Greg Abbott raised the issue of BLM’s claims to thousands of acres of land along the Red River for which ranchers have been paying taxes.

Nagourney quoted Ivan Jones, 60, a bricklayer who came from California to support Bundy.
“Western states don’t have the control over their land that Eastern states have over their land,” Jones said. “Someone like the Bundys, they have been here for generations, before the BLM was ever created, using this land to graze their animals. And the BLM comes in and changes the rule. A small little rancher trying to make a living and they come in like big bullies.”

Politico reported Fox News host Greta Van Susteren, who had dedicated program time to the Bundy case, said: “Let me make this plain: I condemn what Cliven Bundy said about African-Americans.”

WND reported just days ago an interview radio talk-show host Dianne Linderman did with Bundy on the nationally syndicated “Everything That Matters” show.

On Easter Sunday, he said he respects the federal government, pledging allegiance to the flag.

“But [the government] has its place. It doesn’t have its place in the state of Nevada and … Clark County, and that’s where my ranch is. The federal government has no power and no ownership of this land, and they don’t want to accept that,” he said.

“I don’t stand alone,” he continued, “I have all of the prayers from lots of people around the world, and I feel those prayers. And those prayers take the tremble out of my legs. And I can stand strong and straight. And you know the spirit from our heavenly

Father, I seek that every morning on my knees. And he gives me some guidance, and I go forth and I actually feel good. My health is good, my spirit is good and I feel strength. I do, I feel strength, I feel even happiness. And I have no idea where I’m going with this.

It’s a day-by-day spiritual thing for me.”

Listen to Dianne Linderman’s entire 18-minute Easter interview with Cliven Bundy:

* videos at source *

WND also reported the BLM confirmed some of Bundy’s cattle were killed while government agents were rounding them up.

The BLM said four animals were killed and two died from unspecified causes.
Bundy’s website and a Facebook page were used to post images of dead cattle, damaged corrals and damaged water facilities on the land.

“They had total control of this land for one week, and look at the destruction they did,” family friend Corey Houston told Fox News.

At the time, Fox News reported BLM officials said it needed to destroy “illegal structures” such as water tanks and water lines to “restore” the land. But Fox noted that a court order justifying the operation only granted permission to “seize and impound” cattle.

The plan, under which the BLM paid a Utah wrangler $966,000 to collect Bundy’s cattle and a Utah auctioneer to sell them, fell apart after Utah Gov. Gary Herbert refused to let Bundy’s cattle into his state.

“There are serious concerns about human safety and animal health and well-being, if these animals are shipped to and sold in Utah,” he wrote.

Columnist Barbara Simpson wrote about the standoff: “It wasn’t an innocent confrontation but a heavy-handed, one-sided overkill.”

Simpson said that in “a scene out of a tyrannical government playbook,” the federal government “moved in with armored personnel vehicles and helicopters.”

“Armed men equipped with the latest in weaponry and body armor surrounded the ranch house and outbuildings while comparably armed snipers took their places, at the ready, as they lined up their targets, just in case,” she wrote.

“The targets? Unarmed American citizens on their own land.”

Regarding Bundy’s supposedly racist comments? Watch the video of what he said in context, and then watch the edited video below it and see what the New York Times and Media Matters left out.

Unedited video of Cliven Bundy:


Edited video of Cliven Bundy:


Related columns:
New York Times sting entraps Bundy by Joseph Farah
Why the land belongs to Bundy by Ilana Mercer

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