Thread: California is closer to ending illegal "Anchor Baby&quo

California is closer to ending illegal "Anchor Baby" birthsPosted by kimberlydvorak on July 1, 2009 at 10:14am
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San Diego – Californians are one step closer to ending the “Anchor Babyâ€

Sad for the innocent children but these people are using them to get some kind of living expenses and other benefits from the country. It is a shame that babies are being used this way … this only shows the kind of criminals that we are dealing with in this country. They come to have children here by the dozens thinking about themselves NOT about the children that they are bringing to this world.

SAD.

Originally Posted by Xochi

Sad for the innocent children but these people are using them to get some kind of living expenses and other benefits from the country. It is a shame that babies are being used this way … this only shows the kind of criminals that we are dealing with in this country. They come to have children here by the dozens thinking about themselves NOT about the children that they are bringing to this world.

SAD.

If this passes most of the those children will no longer be born. It will end the current invader practice of having children just to get more money.

This is the best news. Its about time. Fantastic!!!!!!!!!!

This is great news and I will do everything to support it. This measure will substantially reduce anchor babies and those who abuse and exploit this state. Despite not being able to get a birth certificate or benefits, will those anchor babies born in CA still be conveyed US citizenship? In other words, are they still considered US citizens even if they cannot get a birth certificate issued to them? I would have to believe they still would be.

Therefore, the problem still remains the interpretation of the 14th Amendment and it's erroneous conveyance of citizenship to the spawn of those who entered this country in violation of immigration law- an interpretation which was never intended!

That's the real crux of the matter! If enough states can pass such legislation, it might force the US Supreme court to finally decide this issue once and for all.

I wonder if it will be challenged all the way to the SC. We definitely need a National ruling.

Originally Posted by NoBueno

Even though they cannot get a birth certificate or benefits, are those anchor babies born in CA still US citizens? The answer is yes, because the 14th Amendment an its erroneous interpretation still conveys citizenship to them.

Not exactly, the 14th Amendment does not allow states to decide who is a citizen and who is not, so this initiative after passage will be headed to the Supreme Court, who will have to decide if anchor babies are US citizens or not. We might get lucky and they say no. If they say yes the initiative will be ruled invalid and we start over trying to get a similar measure passed in Congress. A Federal law of this type will stand up in court.

Originally Posted by Bowman

Originally Posted by NoBueno

Even though they cannot get a birth certificate or benefits, are those anchor babies born in CA still US citizens? The answer is yes, because the 14th Amendment an its erroneous interpretation still conveys citizenship to them.

Not exactly, the 14th Amendment does not allow states to decide who is a citizen and who is not, so this initiative after passage will be headed to the Supreme Court, who will have to decide if anchor babies are US citizens or not. We might get lucky and they say no. If they say yes the initiative will be ruled invalid and we start over trying to get a similar measure passed in Congress. A Federal law of this type will stand up in court.

reread the proposal, the parents have to give fingerprints to be checked by the feds in order to get a birth cert, they are not being denied one. If SCOTUS should determine that this is discriminatory treatment, they just print everyone, which they may be planning on doing anyway. It is not really new, when my son was born in cali 5 years ago, they printed us both for comparison to make sure that we matched when I took the little guy home. The only difference is now ICE will be getting a copy.

This is great if it goes forward.

Originally Posted by cayla99

reread the proposal, the parents have to give fingerprints to be checked by the feds in order to get a birth cert, they are not being denied one.

That is true, but it will also say "foreign parents" on the birth certificate, in other words illegal alien babies will get a different birth certificate than everyone else. That is how they will be denied benefits, only those with lawful or US citizen parents and thus having a normal birth certificate will receive the benefits.

But the only way a state can issue "foreign parents" birth certificates is if the children are not US citizens, otherwise it violates the 14th Amendment.