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    Kasich is a politician without a clue like all the others who don't know what to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Kasich is a politician without a clue like all the others who don't know what to do.
    Judy,

    I sincerely do not like to disagree with you, but I have to disagree with your above comment. Kasich, like the vast majority of those who hold an office of public trust, do not take their oath of office to be obedient to our Constitution seriously. Nor does he work to carry out the wishes of a majority of the people when that majority's view is in harmony with our Constitution and its legislative intent. Kasich, like Obama, Paul Ryan, Juan McCain, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, and countless others, have no problem ignoring our Constitution and imposing their personal sense of fairness, reasonableness, or justice, as the rule of law, despite what our Constitution commands.


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    Oh I agree with that. He's never read the Constitution either so he doesn't even know what he's supposed to do. You can tell from their statements they're stupid and uninformed and ignorant. You know even the lawyers have never actually read the Constitution. They read cases and what courts have said it says and long papers by professors and "scholars" and are taught what they say it says. They none of thme even know what the Constitution actually says. They know what some of the Bill of Rights Amendments say, the little ones, but they've never read the main Constitution. It's unbelievable how uninformed, mis-educated and brain-washed they all are.
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    Bumps in the road for states trying to block Syrian refugees

    01/08/16 02:27 PM—UPDATED 01/08/16 02:33 PM
    By Amanda Sakuma

    Governors are hitting major roadblocks in efforts to cast Syrian refugees as public enemy No. 1.


    Still, the crusade carries on.


    During the last week, state leaders have tested the boundaries of their authority in trying to block Syrian refugees from resettling in their states — and seen how little of power they actually have to pull the stunt off.


    Alabama this week became the second state to take the feds to court over the anti-refugee panic. Meanwhile, Texas, which was the first to litigate the issue, was slapped back by the Department of Justice and accused of essentially trying to line-veto federal decisions. And in Georgia, one of the first states to actively try and ban refugees, leaders recently gave up the cause entirely.


    Despite any apparent setbacks, these state-level maneuvers are continuing to underline the heightened panic stirred by a string of terror attacks at home and abroad. Syrian refugees found themselves at the center of the negative spotlight as people worried that America’s humanitarian goodwill could compromise national security. Around that time in November, more than 30 governors threatened to shut out refugees. Many have since been forced to abandon or tone down their approach. But with the refugee crisis maintaining strength as a major 2016 campaign topic, debate over the issue is not likely to go away anytime soon.

    Gov. Robert Bentley speaks during a news conference about a lawsuit filed over federal non-compliance with the Refugee Act of 1980 at the Alabama Capitol in Montgomery, Ala., Jan. 7, 2016.

    Photo by Albert Cesare/Montgomery Advertiser/AP


    The states that have sued over the resettlement process, Texas and, as of Thursday, Alabama, argue that the Obama administration violated refugee laws enacted back in 1980.

    State officials claim that because they were not consulted in decisions over where Syrian refugees should be placed to live, states have grounds to sue.


    “My number one concern is the safety for the people of Alabama and making sure an outdated, archaic and dangerous process that excludes the states is eliminated,” Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley said in a statement Thursday.


    The Obama administration instead is calling the move out as political bluster. In legal filings this week opposing the Texas lawsuit, the Justice Department said claims that terrorists could infiltrate the refugee system and harm the U.S. were based on “hearsay, and are at best speculative.”


    Refugees undergo a rigorous vetting process that typically starts with the United Nations, goes through as many as five levels of federal screening, and ends, on average, 18 months later. President Obama has called for the U.S. to accept 10,000 Syrian refugees. The country has taken in only a few thousand since civil war broke out in Syria, and they have been resettled all across the country.


    Even if governors could override federal migration policies — which the Obama administration says they can’t — they would run into a number of practical issues in trying to ban refugees.

    Mainly, the government doesn’t track people and their whereabouts. There’s nothing to stop people from being settled in one state and later moving to another.


    Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal saw the writing on the wall this week. He had issued an executive order last November declaring that state agencies must cut off any involvement with the federal resettlement process. But a month later, the state’s Attorney General Sam Olens, who is also a Republican, had to publicly remind the governor through an official court opinion that he didn’t have the executive authority to outright ban the refugees or deny them federal benefits.


    Deal responded on Monday by quietly rescinding the executive order.

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    The states that have sued over the resettlement process, Texas and, as of Thursday, Alabama, argue that the Obama administration violated refugee laws enacted back in 1980.
    That law like all other laws that "admit immigrants" into the US is unconstitutional because the Congress has no power to admit any immigrant into the US. All such immigration is up to the States per Article I, Section 9. The only authority the US government has is to prevent such immigration after the year 1808.
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