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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelrouser
    Turn your frustration into activity.I spent the week before the election mailing out copies of alipacs endorsements and what facts I had on illegal immigrants to almost 2000 contacts across the u.s.I am now working on letters to some enviromental groups with photos from the border also a letter to M.A.D.D with info I am digging up on undocumented drivers and deaths and injuries caused by them.Any more ideas let me know better yet if you think of something GO FOR IT. Make your anger work for you.Think outside the box dont just hide and hope it gets better.



    This old rebel will never give up!!
    Great work Rebelrouser! This is what we need to do. Be proactive! I will not just roll over and play dead. I still have some fight left in me, even though sometimes it seems like it's impossible to make progress. We have done alot and prevented Amnesty last summer. We will do it again! Our numbers our increasing.

    DearsisterAnise, I'm so sorry about your situation and I will pray that it get's better for you and your husband. This is why I will not give up. I'm fighting for the rights of all American Citizens in this country!! WE must stand up for each other, cause if we don't, who will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    I too believe most of our economic problems in this country are caused by the illegals aliens. This includes much of the subprime mortgages that were given to illegals...How stupid is it to allow an unlimited number of un-skilled poor people who are illegal into the United States?? These people are costing us billions every year...How many more people do we need to wash cars and flip burgers?

    Thanks to the million of illegal aliens, California schools and hospitals have been destroyed...In fact the state is broke. but the illegals keep coming and are demanding more tax payer services....Now the governor and the local governments are desperate to find anyway they can to put the burden on us the taxpayers.

    California and evenually the whole nation is going down like the Titanic. But Washington doesn't care, the illegals just keep coming!
    Molly,

    With you in So. Calf. you most likely saw it hit first and even harder then other parts of the country. I used to have to travel to there for work about 5 times a years so I have seen how attitudes and influences of Latinos dominate large segments of your state. And it’s not just a Latino movement as much as it is “The Reconquistaâ€
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    I too believe most of our economic problems in this country are caused by the illegals aliens. This includes much of the subprime mortgages that were given to illegals...How stupid is it to allow an unlimited number of un-skilled poor people who are illegal into the United States?? These people are costing us billions every year...How many more people do we need to wash cars and flip burgers?

    Thanks to the million of illegal aliens, California schools and hospitals have been destroyed...In fact the state is broke. but the illegals keep coming and are demanding more tax payer services....Now the governor and the local governments are desperate to find anyway they can to put the burden on us the taxpayers.

    California and evenually the whole nation is going down like the Titanic. But Washington doesn't care, the illegals just keep coming!
    Molly, AlisaB and everyone else. Believe me, here in CA we are really really feeling the pain. I grew up here and I can tell you when I was a kid this place was paradise. Not only was the weather wonderful as it always has been, but you actually felt like this was what Americana was all about. Yes, there has always been a high hispanic population here in relation to other places, but now whites are the minority. I live in a somewhat "lily white" area. There is a black family and a hispanic family up the street, but the rest is white. I walk my kids about 1/2 way to the bus stop each morning and so does the hispanic mom up the street. When she started shouting at a distance to her kids at the bus stop in spanish I thought "damn, I can't even go out the front door, on MY OWN PROPERTY without hearing that incessant blabbering." It was all I could do to not shout at her to shut up. Funny thing, her kids know perfect English, and it made me wonder if she knew it too. I guess the only way we can have the upper hand in a situation like that is to learn spanish.

    I am deeply concerned about race relations with obama being POTUS. I took an Africana Studies course for two semesters in college. I wanted to find out where blacks got all the anger from....what makes the "angry Black man" tick. I got more than I bargained for. Of course I was one of about 2 other white kids in there and the teacher showed an obvious bias for the black students (she was a terrible teacher anyway) and I quickly learned not to ask too many questions if any at all. I felt that the black kids in the class had the upper hand and they knew it. All this gloating from these black pastors and the like is really starting to get old. No one acknowledges the "white" side of obama. I wonder if his skin color was a few shades darker if he'd have even had a chance....
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    I too believe most of our economic problems in this country are caused by the illegals aliens.
    Actually, I disagree. Illegal immigration is a symptom, not a cause. The cause is a combination of corporate and governmental corruption. Companies and enterprises that want cheap labor bribe politicians through various lobbying efforts to back off of enforcing our immigration laws. Let's face it, if you leave the cake and ice cream on the table uncovered, and the doors and windows are left open, whose fault is it if flies come in to enjoy the cake and ice cream? Is it the fault of the flies, or is it the fault of whoever left the goodies uncovered and the doors and windows open? Granted, you can chase the intruders off, but the problem is not solved until the windows and doors are closed, and the cake and ice cream are kept in the refrigerator except when serving ourselves.

    As to the economic problems, most of those have been driven again by corrupt political and business leaders promoting scams such as Credit Default Swaps, sub-prime mortgages, illicit hiring of illegal aliens (which take jobs away from citizens while also promoting billions of dollars to leave the country as remittances), and hiring inordinate numbers of legal aliens via the visa programs without verifying the need for the skills nor the number (which takes jobs away from citizens while also promoting billions of dollars to leave the country as remittances.) The latter adds insult to injury because the ranks of illegal aliens are swelled by the deliberate failure of the government to ensure legal immigrants leave the country when visas expire.
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    I think that people do care and notice what is going on with the illegals, but the open borders nuts have locked the media down by playing the race card so they don't report the full spectrum to the people. But if the word was reported everyday people would be as mad as us, and we might have a big enough voice to send em packin but we need more support!
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    Here's something to ponder. Why is no one speaking of the huge price reductions in gasoline prices? When the prices were going through the roof, it was almost a daily headline. Yesterday morning I filled up 16 gallons to fill the tank in my little bronco II, and it only cost about $36.00. A month or so ago, it cost me close to $80.00 for the same ammount.

    I said it at the time, and still belive that it was meant to consolidate wealth, by putting as many small business' like me out. And what a lot of folks don't get is that when things tank like they have, wealth is not lost. It's just consolidated into fewer hands. And one has to remember what IIRC John D. Rockefellar said, (or at least one of the Rocks) is that competition is sin.

    I really believe since the effort to keep our borders closed was to get enough illegals in here to drive wages down, so the people would be forced to take jobs at slave rates, and have to work ungodly hours to make ends meet for a basic simple existance.

    Since closing down my business, I have been putting apps in all over town for driving jobs and semitechnical jobs, and everyplace I go wants to know if I can work any shift, and be on-call for weekends and holidays. Since I have my daughter to raise, it's hard for me to do that, but since I put down no I can't, and for that reason, I have yet to get called for work. And it's getting to point that I'm almost willing to say yes to the shift and holiday crap just to get a job, and when asked, say I can't and risk termination for doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadInChicago
    Ooooooooooo touche there MiC!

    Very nice! Very nice!

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    I have said this before on other sites and maybe this one as well.

    What will have to happen for the majority of people to realize the gravity of this situation, is something will have to happen to them personally. People in this day and age ignore their surroundings until their surroundings hit them square in the face. This is the time they take notice.

    With the way the economy is right now, and destined to get worse in the very near future, all the people who have fought us at every turn may be the next ones losing their jobs. When this happens, they will start to see the light, they will see the problem with finding a job, they will become frustrated, desperate, and they may even see someone who may not speak English working in a job they now feel they must have in order to survive, thus becoming more aware of the problems at hand. It should have never come to this point, but I will relish each and every minute watching the opponent scramble in fear to survive and in turn, join us.

    But unfortunately, I honestly feel there will be someone, somewhere, who will take a much more drastic stand. I also honestly feel a drastic stand is what it will take to bring this issue to the light of ALL American's.

    It matters not who is or was POTUS, the problems remain the same, and we must take a stand and correct the wrongdoing done to us all. Every year we say we need to rally, march in the streets, but never do. There are how many anti-illegal immigration sites out there? Yet we can't combine them for the good of the same cause.

    I am in a relatively liberal city whose western border is California. Nevada is severely overlooked in most stats and data regarding illegal immigration, mainly because the casino industry somewhat relies on it and local officials hide it. Greed rules here in my parts. People here are afraid to voice opposition to the illegal alien, open-border movement. They simply hide their true feelings and it's come to the point of forcing a conversation just to draw them out. I am in the minority as far as this issue is concerned (outspoken), so I spend time everyday posting on run of the mill forums and blogs all over the US for the sole purpose of educating idiots.

    I prefer the rough road.

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    Well said Nightowl,

    Thanks for posting.
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