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    Gun Control Amendment in NEW INTERNET CENSORSHIP BILL S.3414

    I have been warning people on this forum for a while that NOT ONLY CAN SENATOR LIEBERMAN'S S.3414 Cyber Security bill shut down forums and sites like ALIPAC under Hate Sites which is in this S.3414, NOW WE FIND OUT SENATORS ARE SNEAKING IN A GUN CONTROL PROVISION:


    Cyber bill has gun control amendment - The Hill's Video


    Where is Michael Savage and Lou Dobbs and Bill OReilly from Fox News who have been ignoring this S.3414 and what it will do to Free Speech online. Anyway today was the vote as to whether to move the bill forward. It passed 82-11. 6 Republicans and 2 Democrats. However this Cyber Security Bill is going to create a NEW DEPARTMENT for DHS who as you know is no fan of ALIPAC. The National Cyber Security Agency will be created under this S.3414 which might I add has already passed the House under the name CISPA. However this National Cyber Security Agency will be able to SPY ON AMERICA'S web page views, e-mails, online purchases with your credit card numbers and online banking including passwords and make copies of them and send them over to DHS with your Internet Service Provider Number. Your Internet Service Provider or ISP will be able to not only give your information to DHS but to unknown third parties and should your ISP lose your information which could include Credit Card Numbers and passwords as well as the Third Party: UNDER S.3414 YOU CANNOT SUE YOUR ISP.

    E-mails: FORGET IT, Not only can your ISP and third party take a long peek at your e-mails it could stop ALIPAC from sending out e-mail action alerts to tell you about an Amnesty Bill or some Senator sneaking an Amnesty clause in the bill and it can even stop ALIPAC Petitions. Not just from ALIPAC but from any Conservative or Lib Group. It can change e-mails you send and receive. Plus under Web Hate which is in the Senate S.3414 SITES LIKE ALIPAC can be banned. Free Speech cannot include Hate Speech which this Cyber Security bill makes sure your right to be against illegals is hate speech and can ban forums and webpages like ALIPAC if LA RAZA makes the claim YOU ARE A CYBER SECURITY THREAT BECAUSE OF YOUR FEELING ABOUT ILLEGAL ALIENS. Remember many news papers want to make illegal a hate word. This bill S.3414 can block you out of sites like ALIPAC because some groups who are for amnesty want to call us a hate webpage. Lets face it FOX NEWS AND LOU DOBBS are not exactly are friends anymore and the only way to get out the message against illegal immigration is through the world wide web.

    Also remember this bill can have your ISP block out e-mails and web page views of ALIPAC.

    This is why I stressed so much to get the message about S.3414 THE CISPA Cyber Security bill in the Senate. Now we find out Senator Schumer has included Gun Control in this bill.

    Please call your Senators at 2022243121 and urge them to VOTE NO to S.3414 and remind them that sneaky Senator Schumer has included a Gun Control Provision in this Cyber Security Bill.

    E-mail Congress as well: Congress.org

    Let the Talk shows know about what Senator Schumer is going to include in this Cyber Security bill:

    LET THE NRA KNOW AS WELL:

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    S. 3414: CSA2012

    112th Congress, 2011–2012. Text as of Jul 23, 2012 (Placed on Calendar in the Senate).

    Status & Summary | PDF | Source: GPO

    S 3414 PCS

    Calendar No. 470

    112th CONGRESS

    2d Session

    S. 3414

    To enhance the security and resiliency of the cyber and communications infrastructure of the United States.

    IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

    July 19, 2012

    Mr. LIEBERMAN (for himself, Ms. COLLINS, Mr. ROCKEFELLER, Mrs. FEINSTEIN, and Mr. CARPER) introduced the following bill; which was read the first time

    July 23, 2012

    Read the second time and placed on the calendar

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    A BILL

    To enhance the security and resiliency of the cyber and communications infrastructure of the United States.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.

    (a) Short Title- This Act may be cited as the ‘Cybersecurity Act of 2012’ or the ‘CSA2012’.

    (b) Table of Contents- The table of contents for this Act is as follows:

    Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents.

    Sec. 2. Definitions.


    TITLE I--PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO PROTECT CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE

    Sec. 101. National Cybersecurity Council.

    Sec. 102. Inventory of critical infrastructure.

    Sec. 103. Voluntary cybersecurity practices.

    Sec. 104. Voluntary cybersecurity program for critical infrastructure.

    Sec. 105. Rules of construction.

    Sec. 106. Protection of information.

    Sec. 107. Annual assessment of cybersecurity.

    Sec. 108. International cooperation.

    Sec. 109. Effect on other laws.

    Sec. 110. Definitions.


    TITLE II--FEDERAL INFORMATION SECURITY MANAGEMENT AND CONSOLIDATING RESOURCES

    Sec. 201. FISMA Reform.

    Sec. 202. Management of information technology.

    Sec. 203. Savings provisions.

    Sec. 204. Consolidation of existing departmental cyber resources and authorities.


    TITLE III--RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT

    Sec. 301. Federal cybersecurity research and development.

    Sec. 302. Homeland security cybersecurity research and development.

    Sec. 303. Research centers for cybersecurity.

    Sec. 304. Centers of excellence.


    TITLE IV--EDUCATION, WORKFORCE, AND AWARENESS

    Sec. 401. Definitions.

    Sec. 402. Education and awareness.

    Sec. 403. National cybersecurity competition and challenge.

    Sec. 404. Federal Cyber Scholarship-for-Service program.

    Sec. 405. Assessment of cybersecurity Federal workforce.

    Sec. 406. Federal cybersecurity occupation classifications.

    Sec. 407. Training and education of Federal employees.

    Sec. 408. National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications acquisition authorities.

    Sec. 409. Reports on cyber incidents against Government networks.

    Sec. 410. Reports on prosecution for cybercrime.

    Sec. 411. Report on research relating to secure domain.

    Sec. 412. Report on preparedness of Federal courts to promote cybersecurity.

    Sec. 413. Report on impediments to public awareness.

    Sec. 414. Report on protecting the electrical grid of the United States.

    Sec. 415. Marketplace information.


    TITLE V--FEDERAL ACQUISITION RISK MANAGEMENT STRATEGY

    Sec. 501. Federal acquisition risk management strategy.

    Sec. 502. Amendments to Clinger-Cohen provisions to enhance agency planning for information security needs.


    TITLE VI--INTERNATIONAL COOPERATION

    Sec. 601. Definitions.

    Sec. 602. Findings.

    Sec. 603. Sense of Congress.

    Sec. 604. Coordination of international cyber issues within the United States Government.

    Sec. 605. Consideration of cybercrime in foreign policy and foreign assistance programs.


    TITLE VII--INFORMATION SHARING

    Sec. 701. Affirmative authority to monitor and defend against cybersecurity threats.

    Sec. 702. Voluntary disclosure of cybersecurity threat indicators among private entities.

    Sec. 703. Cybersecurity exchanges.

    Sec. 704. Voluntary disclosure of cybersecurity threat indicators to a cybersecurity exchange.

    Sec. 705. Sharing of classified cybersecurity threat indicators.

    Sec. 706. Limitation on liability and good faith defense for cybersecurity activities.

    Sec. 707. Construction and federal preemption.

    Sec. 708. Definitions.


    SEC. 2. DEFINITIONS.

    In this Act:

    (1) CATEGORY OF CRITICAL CYBER INFRASTRUCTURE- The term ‘category of critical cyber infrastructure’ means a category identified by the Council as critical cyber infrastructure in accordance with the procedure established under section 102.

    (2) COMMERCIAL INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY PRODUCT- The term ‘commercial information technology product’ means a commercial item that organizes or communicates information electronically.

    (3) COMMERCIAL ITEM- The term ‘commercial item’ has the meaning given the term in section 103 of title 41, United States Code.

    (4) COUNCIL- The term ‘Council’ means the National Cybersecurity Council established under section 101.

    (5) CRITICAL CYBER INFRASTRUCTURE- The term ‘critical cyber infrastructure’ means critical infrastructure identified by the Council under section 102(b)(3)(A).

    (6) CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE- The term ‘critical infrastructure’ has the meaning given that term in section 1016(e) of the USA PATRIOT Act (42 U.S.C. 5195c(e)).

    (7) CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PARTNERSHIP ADVISORY COUNCIL- The term ‘Critical Infrastructure Partnership Advisory Council’ means the Critical Infrastructure Partnership Advisory Council established by the Department under section 871 of the Homeland Security Act of 2002 (6 U.S.C. 451) to coordinate critical infrastructure protection activities within the Federal Government and with the private sector and State, local, territorial, and tribal governments.

    ( DEPARTMENT- The term ‘Department’ means the Department of Homeland Security.

    (9) FEDERAL AGENCY- The term ‘Federal agency’ has the meaning given the term ‘agency’ in section 3502 of title 44, United States Code.

    (10) FEDERAL INFORMATION INFRASTRUCTURE- The term ‘Federal information infrastructure’--

    (A) means information and information systems that are owned, operated, controlled, or licensed for use by, or on behalf of, any Federal agency, including information systems used or operated by another entity on behalf of a Federal agency; and

    (B) does not include--

    (i) a national security system; or

    (ii) information and information systems that are owned, operated, controlled, or licensed solely for use by, or on behalf of, the Department of Defense, a military department, or an element of the intelligence community.

    (11) INCIDENT- The term ‘incident’ has the meaning given that term in section 3552 of title 44, United States Code, as added by section 201 of this Act.

    (12) INFORMATION INFRASTRUCTURE- The term ‘information infrastructure’ means the underlying framework that information systems and assets rely on to process, transmit, receive, or store information electronically, including programmable electronic devices, communications networks, and industrial or supervisory control systems and any associated hardware, software, or data.

    (13) INFORMATION SHARING AND ANALYSIS ORGANIZATION- The term ‘Information Sharing and Analysis Organization’ has the meaning given that term in section 212 of the Homeland Security Act of 2002 (6 U.S.C. 131).

    (14) INFORMATION SYSTEM- The term ‘information system’ has the meaning given that term in section 3502 of title 44, United States Code.

    (15) INSTITUTION OF HIGHER EDUCATION- The term ‘institution of higher education’ has the meaning given that term in section 102 of the Higher Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 1002).

    (16) INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY- The term ‘intelligence community’ has the meaning given that term under section 3(4) of the National Security Act of 1947 (50 U.S.C. 401a(4)).

    (17) MEMBER AGENCY- The term ‘member agency’ means a Federal agency from which a member of the Council is appointed.

    (1 NATIONAL INFORMATION INFRASTRUCTURE- The term ‘national information infrastructure’ means information and information systems--

    (A) that are owned, operated, or controlled, in whole or in part, within or from the United States; and

    (B) that are not owned, operated, controlled, or licensed for use by a Federal agency.

    (19) NATIONAL LABORATORY- The term ‘national laboratory’ has the meaning given the term in section 2 of the Energy Policy Act of 2005 (42 U.S.C. 15801).

    (20) NATIONAL SECURITY SYSTEM- The term ‘national security system’ has the meaning given that term in section 3552 of title 44, United States Code, as added by section 201 of this Act.

    (21) OWNER- The term ‘owner’--

    (A) means an entity that owns critical infrastructure; and

    (B) does not include a company contracted by the owner to manage, run, or operate that critical infrastructure, or to provide a specific information technology product or service that is used or incorporated into that critical infrastructure.

    (22) OPERATOR- The term ‘operator’--

    (A) means an entity that manages, runs, or operates, in whole or in part, the day-to-day operations of critical infrastructure; and

    (B) may include the owner of critical infrastructure.

    (23) SECRETARY- The term ‘Secretary’ means the Secretary of Homeland Security.

    (24) SIGNIFICANT CYBER INCIDENT- The term ‘significant cyber incident’ means an incident resulting in, or an attempted to cause an incident that, if successful, would have resulted in--

    (A) the exfiltration of data that is essential to the operation of critical cyber infrastructure; or

    (B) the defeat of an operational control or technical control, as those terms are defined in section 708, essential to the security or operation of critical cyber infrastructure.

    TITLE I--PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO PROTECT CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE

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    Where exactly is the gun control amendment? Did I miss something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    Where exactly is the gun control amendment? Did I miss something?

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    I didn't find anything like that either.
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    Sneaky Dems Attempt Gun Control In CyberSecurity Bill

    July 27, 2012 by Tim Brown
    Sneaky Dems Attempt Gun Control In CyberSecurity Bill




    Democrat Senators have offered an amendment to the cybersecurity bill that would limit the purchase of high capacity gun magazines. May I ask what in the world high capacity gun magazines have to do with cybersecurity? I already know. They have nothing to do with it, but this is how our Congress works.

    However, with this particular amendment, S.A.2575, was sponsored by Democrats Frank Lautenberg (N.J.), Barbara Boxer (Calif.), Jack Reed (R.I.), Bob Menendez (N.J.), Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.), Schumer and Dianne Feinstein (Calif.). These liberal Senators are looking to make it illegal to transfer or posses large capacity devices that feed guns more than 10 rounds with the exception of .22 caliber rim fire ammunition. Apparently you can have a thousand round drum of those on your weapon and you’re ok.

    The amendment is identical to a different bill that was sponsored by Frank Lautenberg.

    In the first place, the stupid thing about the law is that it would only affect these devices that were sold or transferred after the law took effect. So people they are afraid of can still legally own these, just as long as they got them before the law was in effect. That makes absolutely no sense.

    Chuck Shumer, the New York Democrat, and yes this is the same New York that gave the country the likes of Mayor Michael Bloomberg, was pushing for passage of this amendment.


    “Maybe we could come together on guns if each side gave some,” Schumer said.

    Mr. Schumer seems oblivious that the only people that have compromised are Republicans and frankly they need to stop compromising. That’s what gets us into this mess in the first place. The gun control laws on the books are the result of Democrats calling for more gun control and Republicans caving to that demand. The more we compromise, the further left we drift.

    I think we can find common ground. Stop making new gun control laws Mr. Schumer. The government has tens of thousands of gun laws on the books now and they don’t stop all the things you claim they will stop.

    “The basic complaint is that the Chuck Schumers of the world want to take away your guns,” Schumer said of the argument made by gun lobbies. “I think it would be smart for those of us who want rational gun control to make it know that that’s not true at all.”

    It is true. Liberals like Chuck Schumer think that by disarming the population they can get a better handle on crime and control the people. What they fail to see is that the very people they are out to stop do not adhere to their laws, which is why they are called criminals. That’s C-R-I-M-I-N-A-L-S. As Rush says, “For those in Rio Linda” that means they are guilty of a crime, which means they violate the law. They disregard it. They oppose the law. The law simply defines who the criminals are and in this case, with this amendment, people, such as myself, who would seek to purchase a magazine for their Glock, or 1911 or AR-15 that would have more than 10 rounds, would become a criminal. See how that works?

    “We can debate where to draw the line of reasonableness, but we might be able to come to an agreement in the middle,” Schumer said. “Maybe, maybe, maybe we can pass some laws that might, might, might stop some of the unnecessary casualties … maybe there’s a way we can come together and try to break through the log jam and make sure the country is a better place.”

    OK, there are a lot of ‘maybes’ and ‘mights’ in Schumer’s statements here. “Mights” and “Maybes” are what the left always use to try and push their agenda. There is never a definitive “this will work and here’s how.”This kind of argument is emotional, not logical. The only way this will “make the country a better place” is for people like Charles Schumer to stay out of the gun marketplace and allow Americans the ability to purchase a weapon of choice for whatever they intend to use it for, whether it is hunting or sport shooting or self defense.

    While Schumer also decried assault weapons and said that average Americans didn’t need such a weapon to go hunting or protect themselves, he is not to determine such things. Tell that to the victims of the tyrannical government under Bill Clinton and Janet Reno that brought bloodshed in both Waco, TX and Ruby Ridge for no real reason or threat. Americans should be able to purchase whatever weapons are on the market. Laws are in place to make sure that legal transactions are checked thoroughly. Those criminals that are intent on getting high capacity magazines are going to do it despite Schumer and the Democrats passing a million laws and the law-abiding citizens are the ones that will pay for their stupidity.

    This bill is set to be voted on next week.


    Here’s a montage of what Capitol Hill has to say about gun control. I think you’ll find Sen. Schumer’s call for limiting the Second Amendment in contradiction to his above claims.

    Sneaky Dems Attempt Gun Control In CyberSecurity Bill : Freedom Outpost

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    SA 2575.

    Mr. LAUTENBERG (for himself, Mrs. BOXER, Mr. REED, Mr. MENENDEZ, Mrs. GILLIBRAND, Mr. SCHUMER, and Mrs. FEINSTEIN) submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S. 3414, to enhance the security and resiliency of the cyber and communications infrastructure of the United States; which was ordered to lie on the table; as follows:
    At the appropriate place, insert the following SEC. __. PROHIBITION ON TRANSFER OR POSSESSION OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.

    (a) Definition.–Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after paragraph (29) the following:
    “(30) The term `large capacity ammunition feeding device’–
    “(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition; but
    “(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.”.
    (b) Prohibitions.–Section 922 of such title is amended by inserting after subsection (u) the following:
    “(v)(1)(A)(i) Except as provided in clause (ii), it shall be unlawful for a person to transfer or possess a large capacity ammunition feeding device.
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    “(ii) Clause (i) shall not apply to the possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device otherwise lawfully possessed within the United States on or before the date of the enactment of this subsection.
    “(B) It shall be unlawful for any person to import or bring into the United States a large capacity ammunition feeding device.
    “(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to–
    “(A) a manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States or a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State, or a transfer to or possession by a law enforcement officer employed by such an entity for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off duty);
    “(B) a transfer to a licensee under title I of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 for purposes of establishing and maintaining an on-site physical protection system and security organization required by Federal law, or possession by an employee or contractor of such a licensee on-site for such purposes or off-site for purposes of licensee-authorized training or transportation of nuclear materials;
    “(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving ammunition, of a large capacity ammunition feeding device transferred to the individual by the agency upon that retirement; or
    “(D) a manufacture, transfer, or possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device by a licensed manufacturer or licensed importer for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Attorney General.”.

    (c) Penalties.–Section 924(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following:
    “( Whoever knowingly violates section 922(v) shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.”.
    (d) Identification Markings.–Section 923(i) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following: “A large capacity ammunition feeding device manufactured after the date of the enactment of this sentence shall be identified by a serial number that clearly shows that the device was manufactured after such date of enactment, and such other identification as the Attorney General may by regulation prescribe.”.

    Congressional Record – 112th Congress (2011-2012) – THOMAS (Library of Congress

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    Hillary and Obama at it again. S.3414/S.A.2575 Trying to bring back H/C magazine ban

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    Unable to get the U.N. Small Arms Treaty to pass...Obama, Hillary and the gang are now trying to be sneaky and slip one past us.

    The Senate will vote on S.3414, The Cyber Security Act ( which in itself is disgusting ) but they snuck in an Amendment to that bill , S.A. 2575 which would basically revive the " Assault Weapons Ban " that was thankfully allowed to die in 2004 but the Democrats have been trying to get brought back to life ever since. Don't allow any more attacks on the 2nd Amendment.

    In fact, there needs to be a bill passed that forbids any politician from every trying to create a law that attacks the 2nd Amendment ever again.

    All of these politicians swore oaths to protect and uphold the Constitution when they took office.

    This new bill should hold them accountable for an act of treason each and every time one of them attempts to infringe upon an American's rights.

    If they are going to refuse to honor their oaths, then they need to be held accountable for breaking it. And especially held accountable for trying to place the lives of American civilians in danger by taking away their ability to possess a power equal to or greater than the State's.

    Hillary and Obama at it again. S.3414/S.A.2575 Trying to bring back H/C magazine ban | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution

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    Democrats Using Cyber Security To Reach Our Guns

    Often times in Washington, Democrats will try to go through the back door to get something passed. In this case they have attached an amendment to the Cyber Security Act which they have named the "Large Capacity Magazine Ban." This amendment would make it illegal to transfer or possess large capacity feeding devices such as gun magazines, belts, feed stripes and drums of more than 10 rounds of ammunition with the exception of .22 caliber rim fire ammunition. The Senate is expected to debate and vote on proposed amendments to the Cyber Security Bill during the first week of August.


    Democratic Senators Chuck Schumer, Frank Lautenberg, Barbara Boxer, Jack Reed, Bob Menendez, Kirsten Gillibrand, and Dianne Feinstein are all sponsors of the proposed amendment. Feinstein was a sponsor of the Assault Weapons Ban which expired in 2004.

    Schumer says they are trying to implement some "reasonable" gun control measures. This is part of what Schumer said about the amendment, "Maybe, maybe, maybe we can pass some laws that might, might, might stop some of the unnecessary casualties." You don't sound too confident about that Chuck...


    Maybe, maybe, maybe once the democrats get their foot in the door on gun control it might, might, might get a whole lot worse. Those extra maybes and mights are simply sarcasm toward Chuck Schumer because we all know it would snowball affect; once they got one gun control law passed we might as well burn the Second Amendment because many more would shortly follow.

    Schumer also said, "The basic complaint is that the Chuck Schumers of the world want to take away your guns. I think it would be smart for those of us who want rational gun control to make it known that that's not true at all." No, right now you just want our magazines, tomorrow you want our semi-automatics, next week you want our bolt actions, next month you want our single shots, next year we are throwing our left over bullets at deer hoping they will fire on impact.

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