Thread: Immigration Scorecard of the 2008 Pres. Candidates

Originally Posted by Once_A_Democrat

No way that Ron Paul has an A-
Somebody needs to do more work

Sounds an A- to me:

Ron Paul on Border Security & Immigration

The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. This is my six point plan:

Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.

Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.

No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.

End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.

Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/borde ... on-reform/

Originally Posted by Once_A_Democrat

No way that Ron Paul has an A-
Somebody needs to do more work

I agree---especially when this is almost the complete opposite of what is said by Numbersusa!!

They definitely do not have his past voting record, or are not paying attention to the fact that he has NO plan for going after employers or holding them accountable!!!!

ESPECIALLy the fact that he voted AGAINST Duncan Hunter's 2005 fence/border security bill!!

redlander wrote:

I think Hunter is the one...He has my vote in the primary.

You're not alone, redlander.

[quote="zeezil"]Immigration Scorecard of the Presidential candidates for 2008

Although U.S. Border Control has been officially rating Congressional candidates on their immigration
votes since 1995, we have seldom offered our opinions on Presidential candidates.

However, with so much at stake, and, with the urgings of so many people who have come to rely on our
Scorecards for the candidates, we intend to offer some guidance on the Presidential candidates with
respect to their positions on border and immigration policy.

Disclaimer: U.S. Border Control, as a 501(c)(4) nonprofit lobbying group, cannot and does not endorse
or oppose candidates for public office. The information we provide is intended to be used as a guide for
people interested in knowing where candidates stand on border and immigration issues. Our ratings do
not evaluate a candidate’s positions on all the other issues and we strongly recommend further research
so that you may make an informed decision when you go to the polls.

Methodology: Our ratings deal in facts and historical data. They completely ignore a candidate’s
campaign rhetoric as history has proven such promises mean nothing to politicians.

Whenever possible, we rely on those recorded votes that we have determined to be the critical vote in
the legislative process. Often, this vote may not be the final vote, but a procedural vote or cloture
motion. In order to ensure that we have chosen the most appropriate votes for our Scorecard, we use a
double-blind study asking experts on both sides of the issue which vote was the turning point for the
legislation.

Finally, a candidate’s score can be raised or lowered by the number of sponsorships and cosponsorships
of bills that we determine to be for or against immigration reform. Sponsorship of immigration
legislation and the candidate’s efforts to move the legislation are weighted as these actions are important
indications of a candidate’s willingness to take a public position on the issue.

All that being said, our ratings are imperfect due to the fact that, in some cases, there is simply
insufficient data to make a definitive decision. In those instances, we put an asterisk (*) next to the
score so you will know this is a rating made on insufficient or unreliable data.

It bears mentioning that we are nonpartisan. Frankly, we would love to see more Democrats taking
positions against amnesty; closing the border; or voting against anchor babies; etc…. We feel that core
Democrat issues that are being totally ignored while that party, like the Republicans, pander after the
immigrant vote.

Our ratings criteria failed ALL the Democratic candidates for President of the United States. Every one
of them has earned an “Fâ€