Thread: Losing My Independence

Originally Posted by Lugundum

Delaware? Is it really that bad?

Maybe there are some people feeling like you nearby, aren't they?

Please do not take me wrong but I'm surprised.

I have friends that retired in Delaware near the beach. Illegal aliens are everywhere. They REGRET their move and really wish they could come back home, but they would loose half of their retirement fund.

Originally Posted by butterbean

Originally Posted by Lugundum

Delaware? Is it really that bad?

Maybe there are some people feeling like you nearby, aren't they?

Please do not take me wrong but I'm surprised.

I have friends that retired in Delaware near the beach. Illegal aliens are everywhere. They REGRET their move and really wish they could come back home, but they would loose half of their retirement fund.

Delaware is a sanctuary state, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Lugundum

I'm from small post-communist country in Europe but even we are now flooded by immigrants. Our annual immigration rate per capita is now bigger than that of the USA. Average salary here is about 1300$ per month (still less than 40% of EU average) but for corporations we are already earning too much and they are looking for cheap labor workforce outside Europe. They are not paying for consequences - but we are.

Lugundum,

The cheap labor is nothing more than "legalized slavery" so the elite can continue to fatten their own pockets!

Are the majority of people in Europe aware that the U.S. has plans to form a North American Union (NAU)? What are some of the pros, if any, and cons of the EU? Are environment issues highly regarded? Sorry for all the questions but the elite control the mainstream media and all we are fed is propaganda and junk...or told to go shopping to support our capitalism!!!

Originally Posted by butterbean

Originally Posted by Lugundum

Delaware? Is it really that bad?

Maybe there are some people feeling like you nearby, aren't they?

Please do not take me wrong but I'm surprised.

I have friends that retired in Delaware near the beach. Illegal aliens are everywhere. They REGRET their move and really wish they could come back home, but they would loose half of their retirement fund.

Beach areas near Maryland, New Jersey, South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida as well!!!!

Originally Posted by Lugundum

Thanks PhredE, for explanation. I'm rather surprised that this avalanche reached so distant places.

Originally Posted by USAKAY

Lugundum, Yes it is really bad. I live on the outskirts of the city of Wilmington along a golf course and see illegals right outside my window every morning working on the golf course. I use to go outside and do yardwork but because of the Mexicans wondering all around I fear that something could happen. They stare at your every move. There are very few restaurants to go to for their help in the kitchen is Mexicans.

Hospitals are being overrunned, schools, roadways just about the same as any other town in the USA.

USAKAY, I'm from small post-communist country in Europe but even we are now flooded by immigrants. Our annual immigration rate per capita is now bigger than that of the USA. Average salary here is about 1300$ per month (still less than 40% of EU average) but for corporations we are already earning too much and they are looking for cheap labor workforce outside Europe. They are not paying for consequences - but we are.

I understand that my advice could be a bit "besserwisserei" but have you talked to your children? To your neighbors? There must be more people like you in your town! In unity there is a strength!

My mama is about to retire and me and my sister are already looking for the place where she could live safe.

I don't know about where you are.......But here, we have the problem of illegals voting in our elections!!! The illegals are being encouraged and accommodated so that they can vote in our elections!!

If you are looking for a safe place for your mom to retire, try Australia or New Zealand!!! Both have taken major steps to stop illegals-----and they have really restricted legal immigration as well (they don't want anymore radical Muslims coming into the country demanding that their religion and Sharia Law be accommodated).

Originally Posted by MontereySherry

I have always considered myself an independent woman. Being a single parent for 20 years I learned to be independent. I traveled all over California feeling safe. But now I find myself becoming a shut in.

I find where I used to love to shop, I now do as little as possible. Children are allowed to run wild shouting in foreign languages. I feel like I am in a foreign country, so I go home.

I went to a birthday party at the local tavern the other night and five illegal immigrants came in and true to their machismo culture of Mexico they leered and started insulting the young woman. So I went home.

The weather was beautiful so I decided to work in my yard the other day. Two missonaries from Mexico approached me. I watched groups of immigrants walking down the street all the while leering at me. So I went in the house.

Now I have planned to drive to San Diego to visit my daughter whose husband is stationed there and I find myself dreading it because I am afraid for the first time to make the trip. I find I only feel safe in my house.

This is just plain wrong. How many of us feel this way? Who cares?

Thank you Sherry and USAKAY. I live outside Chicago and am experiencing the same things. There are areas I used to shop and neighborhoods I used to drive through 8 years ago that I will not go near now. And it startles me how quickly things can go downhill once they begin to move in and set up clown houses. My husband works in a hospital and he has to stay there overnight on call once a week. I was never afraid being home by myself with children in the house but now I keep something by my bed in case someone breaks in. We have an alarm system, too but I worry the police would not get here in time.
I have always enjoyed gardening but last year I had replaced everything out front with shrubs and bushes. Things that do not require any care. I feel too uncomfortable working out there. Our backyard is fenced so no one can see that I am out there. Basically, once it gets dark I do not go out unless I have to. I am disgusted that I have to live like this. Chicago is a city that really rolls out the red carpet for illegals so I know things are only going to get worse.

I hope MontereySherry will forgive for hijacking her thread.

Originally Posted by carolinamtnwoman

The cheap labor is nothing more than "legalized slavery" so the elite can continue to fatten their own pockets!

I know. And I like to be here with other people aware of this fact

Originally Posted by carolinamtnwoman

Are the majority of people in Europe aware that the U.S. has plans to form a North American Union (NAU)? What are some of the pros, if any, and cons of the EU? Are environment issues highly regarded? Sorry for all the questions but the elite control the mainstream media and all we are fed is propaganda and junk...or told to go shopping to support our capitalism!!!

No, majority of EU people are totally unaware of the NAU. But recently some of the more "progressive" EU politicians hinted at "new" NAU - EU and USA/Canada and possibly Mexico as a one state.

Now we are governed by superstate government which has been never confirmed in elections. Our politicians are making bad laws and saying us - "look we know it is bad but EU wants that". We have lost our independence and sovereignty and paying more on taxes to feed this bureaucratic monster. EURO currency has made everything more expensive - this effect has been confirmed to me by German, Austrian, French and Spanish people independently on each other.

The pros could be more free travel - but it is more than negated by uncontrolled immigration.

Ecology is very "in". One of the consequences is expensive food as the impact of bio-fuel madness.

And concerning the consumption - here lies maybe the biggest difference between American and (continental) European style of life. I have never leased anything or owed bank anything. Even not 1$ for five minutes. I do not own a credit card. I will not take a mortgage to build my house - I will borrow money from other family members if necessary. It is cheaper. (As the result it is impossible for me to get a mobile phone in the USA - I do not have any credit history )

Dolly3275, Unfortunately we cannot afford Australia or New Zealand. My mother is fluent in English but it is not our nation's language and so I doubt she would wish to start new life in English speaking community with respect to her age. Other reasons is the fact that we couldn't be able visiting her and it would be too expensive for us.

And the last Australia elections was won by multiculturalist/open border fanatic.

I just ran some errands before my trip and this is what I experienced. I went to get my car washed - moved to an area to wait where nobody was standing and three men moved right behind me and started talking Spanish, so I moved. Stopped at Rite Aid - while I was shopping six Mexican woman gathered in my aisle and started loudly talking in Spanish, I had enough so I told then to shut up or speak English. They called me a racist. I really am not a racist, I have many Hispanic friends, but what is with these people that they cannot talk quietly.

I really think we are being pushed beyond our limits. Someone is going to go ballistic. We have heard of the twinkie defense and the battered woman syndrome but they will try and call it a hate crime. We need someone to do some research on what is happening to American woman.

Illegal aliens linked
to gang-rape wave
The crime epidemic no one will talk about?

Posted: August 22, 2006
1:00 am Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com

Member of gang Mara Salvatrucha (NPR.org)
A wave of illegal-immigrant gang rapes is sweeping the U.S. while public officials and law-enforcement authorities fear drawing the link, experts say.
Deborah Schurman-Kauflin, a Ph.D. researcher of violent crimes, told WorldNetDaily, "It appears as if there is a fear that if this is honestly discussed, people will hate all illegal immigrants. So there is silence. ? But in being silent about the rapes and murders, it is as if the victims never even existed."

Schurman-Kauflin, who runs the Violent Crimes Institute in Atlanta, participated in a 12-month, in-depth study of illegal immigrants who committed sex crimes and murders from January 1999 through April 2006. The study found approximately 240,000 illegal-immigrant sex offenders reside in the United States ? while 93 sex offenders and 12 serial sexual offenders come across U.S. borders illegally every day.


Schurman-Kauflin said, "Gang rapes by illegal immigrants appear to be gang related. Many of the cases I reviewed involved gang members. As part of being a cohesive group, they offend together. Inflicting brutal gang rapes brings them closer together as a group. It is a way to demonstrate their power. And it sends a message to anyone who dares to cross them."

Americans for Legal Immigration PAC told WND it now is tracking 12 gang rapes by illegal aliens within America's borders since Oct. 2004.

ALIPAC's president, William Gheen, said, "These are just the ones we know of. The real number is much higher."

Gheen told WND he believes the number of gang rapes is increasing as the population of illegal aliens in the U.S. increases.

"Many illegal aliens have a rape and pillage mentality toward America," he said. "The government has shown them they can break our laws on many levels without much fear of enforcement. Why should they think of rape or gang rape any differently?"

Gheen said, "Illegal aliens are more likely to engage in these crimes because rapes and gang rapes are much more common in the gang-rule Third World areas they come from."

MS-13, also known as Mara Salvatrucha, a highly organized and well-funded Central American gang, is infiltrating at least 33 states across the U.S., according to law-enforcement authorities. The gang is well-known in Los Angeles, Houston, New York and Washington, D.C., for excessive brutality. Any person suspected of cooperating with authorities is hunted down, tortured and killed. Initiation rites include kickings, beatings and gang rapes.

Gheen said, "These gangs are forcing new female gang members to undergo gang rape to enter the gang and they are asking their male initiates to gang rape American women to become an official member of the gang."

MS-13 relies on metropolitan areas with highly concentrated populations of illegal aliens to boost its spreading membership. Chapters require that initiates perform random acts of violence, such as participating in gang rapes, to gain acceptance, confirm law-enforcement officials.

Three MS-13 gang members were charged in the brutal rapes of two deaf girls, one 14, the other 17, in a Massachusetts park in 2002. One victim, who also suffered from cerebral palsy, was pushed out of her wheelchair before being raped repeatedly.

Illegal alien rapists often maintain several aliases, making escaping justice easier.

Jorge Villa-Gutierrez, 25, is in prison for the gang rape of an 18-year-old Douglas County, Colorado woman. He claimed to have paid only $100 for a fake ID and Social Security number.

Manuel Cantu, 28, pleaded guilty in Middlesex Superior Court February 2005 in Cambridge, Mass., to six counts of rape and one count of indecent assault and battery on a person over 14 years old. Cantu also went by the aliases Angel Meza and Angel M. Salvador, according to court documents.

Gheen said, "Illegal aliens have been walking out of American prisons after serving their time at taxpayer expense without being deported. Our government can't or won't find the hundreds of thousands of known felon illegal aliens walking America's streets tonight much less stop the new felons coming in tonight across our unsecured borders."

The Violent Crimes Institute study established a pattern of escalating offenses among illegal aliens, whose first offense was illegally entering the U.S.

Schurman-Kauflin told WND, "Illegal immigrants who commit sex crimes first cross the U.S. border illegally, then gradually commit worse crimes and are continually released back into society or deported. Those who were deported simply returned illegally again. There is a clear pattern of criminal escalation. From misdemeanors such as assault or DUI, to drug offenses, illegal immigrants who commit sex crimes break U.S. laws repeatedly."

Most of the offenders reported in the study were located in states with the highest numbers of illegal immigrants. California was No. 1, followed by Texas, Arizona, New Jersey, New York and Florida. The 1,500 offenders studied had a total of 5,999 victims ? averaging four victims each. Of those studied, 525, or 35 percent, were child molestations, 358, or 24 percent, were rapes, and 617, or 41 percent, were sexual homicides and serial murders.

Schurman-Kauflin said, "We need to know who is coming into this country. It is a matter of security, life and death. ? Our borders should be secured so that those with evil intentions cannot enter. We need more Border Patrol agents, more training for these agents and a commitment that we will not tolerate predators coming into this country. There must be security and a return to the rule of law."

Last year, officials of the House Judiciary Committee said that U.S. immigration officers and police are not always on the same page. Police do not always inform immigration authorities about arrests of undocumented aliens, and immigration officers are often too late to identify the aliens before they are released on bail.

New York's arm of the Department of Homeland Security is only interviewing 40 percent of foreign-born inmates at Rikers Island ? "a failure that puts criminal aliens back on the streets instead of deporting them," according to the New York Post.

"Gang rape is a form of terrorism. It has been used throughout history as a weapon of terror," Gheen said. "Most Americans do not see the war that is already upon us in our communities and neighborhoods."

Some high-profile gang rapes by illegal immigrants include:


December 2002 ? In New York, several criminal aliens, who had passed in and out of Rikers and other jails without being detected by immigration officials, brutally beat and gang-raped a Queens mother of two near Shea Stadium. Three of the five rapists were illegal Mexican aliens with multiple prior arrests for crimes including assault, weapon possession and armed robbery.

January 2004 ? Four illegal aliens were among the five men who brutally gang-raped a New York City woman. "They punched me so hard that I was knocked to the floor," the 43-year-old victim wrote before Supreme Court Justice Randall Eng sentenced one of her attackers, Victor Cruz, to 21 years in prison. Cruz, Luis Carmona, Carlos Rodriguez, Armando Juvenal and Jos? Hernandez pleaded guilty in December to rape and kidnapping charges in exchange for sentences of 20 to 23 years.

October 2004 ? a 37-year-old North Carolina woman was gang raped by at least seven illegal aliens in Huntersville, N.C.

Oct. 4, 2005 ? In Immokalee, Fla., 14 field laborers, ranging in age from 18 to 56, broke into an 18-year-old woman's home, dragged her across the street and then took turns raping her. The victim said the men choked and hit her until she became unconscious. When she awoke, a man poured alcohol in her mouth. The men removed her clothing and each one raped her.

June 28, 2006 ? Texas' Waco Tribune Herald reported illegal immigrants Javier Guzman Martinez, 18, and Noel Darwin Hernandez, 22, have been charged with one count of aggravated kidnapping and one count of aggravated sexual assault of an 18-year-old Tehuacana woman. The girl had been cut with a piece of glass or "other unknown object."

July 10 ? In Sayre, Pa., the Evening Times reported "Gasper Almilcar Guzman" was among a group of men who were found July 10 to be in this country illegally following a routine traffic stop in Athens Township. Guzman had been convicted of raping a 14-year-old girl in Alabama in 2005. Guzman was deported before he could begin serving his five-year sentence.

July 13 -- In Noblesville, Ind., an illegal alien named Miguel Gutierrez, 20, faces two counts of rape for taking a 14-year-old into a garage and participating in a four-man gang rape on the girl. Following the gang rape, the girl was forced into a car and raped again, according to news reports.

July 17 ? In Greenville, N.C., Fernando Cruz, 41, Walter Ramires, 26, Luis Morales, 24, and Pedro Vasques, 27, were charged with first-degree rape and first-degree kidnapping of a woman. They drove the woman to a field path on the edge of town and took turns raping her.

July 21 ? Sinoe Salgado Garcia, a 28-year-old Fontana, Calif., man convicted of kidnapping and raping a 4-year-old girl, was sentenced to a 30-year-to-life prison term, according to the Riverside Press Enterprise. The child was found hours later inside a shed, thrown over a 6-foot-tall block wall, investigators said. She underwent surgery to repair damage caused by the rape and sodomy, court records show. The site reported that she also suffered three facial fractures.

Aug. 3 ? Two young illegal aliens living in Charlotte, N.C., were charged with gang raping an Asheville teenager at the Red Roof Inn. They are 22-year-old Pablo Vasquez Osorio and 23-year-old Marcos Guerrero Fuentes. Both were charged with first-degree rape and kidnapping of a 17-year-old Asheville girl at a Red Roof Inn.

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I highly recommend getting a dog for night-time security. Whenever you are working outdoors have the dog with you so people see you have a watchdog.

My dog has a very gentle, loving nature. I was at Minnards during daylight and opened my car door when a man forced his way between me and the interior of my car. My dog, who had been asleep in my car, 'attacked' the man and all the barking and growling drew attention......the man fled. Whenever weather conditions permit, my dog travels with me.

My goal in life is to be as good a person as my dog thinks I am.