Thread: need a huge favor from alipacers

Hello Alipacers.
I need a HUGE favor and I need it FAST!

I need dirt on McCain, but I need it in fast verbage bites for a TV Commercial that will be used to thwart McCain and try to force this to a brokered convention. This will be hard hitting.

I need Info on the Loopholes with that McCain/Kennedy Amnesty bill that he pushed. For instance, did it allow for preferential treatment of immigrants ahead of citizens in school/jobs? Did it allow them to never learn english etc.. Basically, I need those "tidbit facts" that the general public DOES NOT KNOW that would be furious about. I also need a reference to the section of the bill so I can verify.

Also, that Bill McCain was involved in that stipulated health insurance for mexico!!!!!!!!!!

Also, I need dirt on Juan Hernandez. We know about him, but I need quotes or expressions that are verifiable. I need those too.

I know this is alot. But please get this to me fast with references. This is real and is being put together for assaults on some last remaining primary states.

The Juan Hernandez information is in the Announcement section.

This is an informative McCain article
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-102567-mccain.html

McCain / Kennedy never required anyone to learn English as they claimed , it only required them to enroll in an English class ,

At first they would not have been required to pay back taxes , I think this
was amended in , but taxes and fines didn't have to be paid
for like 8 years and there was a million waivers

The bill was like a thousand pages and most of it was
nasty unreadable lawyerspeak

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... c&t=100328

http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-606364.html#606364

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-101215.html

2 Chronicles 7:14

McCain opposed prop 200 that would have denied
social services to illegals in AZ

McCain said as a border senator he knew all about
securing the borders, yet after 20 some years
the Az border is one of the most open and porous out
of all of them , He has done nothing all the years he was
a senator

He conspired behind closed doors with la raza and the
chamber of commerce , along with the dems
to grant amnesty and many other perks to illegals

Here is analysis on the McCain/Kennedy amnesty bill from the national security angle:

June 19, 2007
The Senate Immigration Bill: A National Security Nightmare

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1513.cfm

Sen. Sessions Releases List of 20 Loopholes in the Senate Immigration Bill

Monday, June 4, 2007

http://sessions.senate.gov/pressapp/rec ... ?id=275456

Some excellent things here to use from michelle malkin: Video clips and other information. A commercial would be great to tell of McCain's close association with open borders, La Raza, Juan Hernandez, Ted Kennedy, etc. Play some of Juan's foolishness and morph John with him. Two sides of the same coin - Juan and John and "Think Mexico first."

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/04/jo ... ashington/

2 Chronicles 7:14

Obama is looking better all the time. Of course its because McAmnesty
is looking worse and worse.....not that I was ever considering voting
for him anyway...he just looks worse!

JOHN McCAIN---IS really a Liberal that almost left the GOP, who was a leading co-sponsor with Bush, Kennedy, Lieberman, Feingold, in order to sneak in Amnesty and other Bills in the Senate knowing this would bankrupt and destroy the moral of America (They sold the Americans out), go to links below for proof:
http://www.ucdailynews.com/politics/12993612.html

McCain's Record: Forked Tongue, Not Straight Talk.1) In 2004, McCain called Arizona's Proposition 200, which required proof of citizenship from all Arizonans seeking to register to vote or apply for public benefits, "less than worthless".
2) In 2006 McCain denounced the House Republican's "enforcement only" immigration bill to a reporter for Esquire Magazine.
3) McCain voted for both the Inhofe amendment to defend E.O. 13166 and the Salazar amendment to protect and codify E.O. 13166, McCain voted both against and for E.O.13166 on the same day (May 18, 2006), Executive Order 13166 requires all recipients of federal funds to function in any language anyone wishes to speak at any time. McCain's votes on E.O. 13166 earned him a "Weathervane Award" from English First.
During that same Esquire interview, McCain said: "I would never say this publicly, but some of these talk-show hosts
and I'm not saying they should be taken off the air; they have the right to do what they want to do -- I don't think they're good for America." See link below:
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRel ... RN20080105

The next website link is very important, read it thoroughly:
McClintObama Amnesty Plan: 20 million illegal alien voters by 2010
http://www.alipac.us/article2920.html

He flip-flopped on our Second Amendment Rights (the right to bear arms), flip-flopper on Free Speech Amendment--Go to the link below:
http://www.gunowners.org/pres08/mccain.htm

Go to the link below to see his Report Card on gun/weapon votes, Liberal Charges against him, and Liberal Alerts by GOA (Gun Owners of America). You will be in shock after reading all of these Alerts, I promise!!!
http://www.gunowners.org/mccaintb.htm

Click on McCain’s picture or link when you get to the below website/link:
http://www.betterimmigration.com/candid ... _gopl.html
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Political Correctness is the cloak that protects EVIL.

Illegal is still ILLEGAL

All of the below information below is at the below link:

http://www.myporch.net/McCain.html

"Reds Say PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral . . . Hanoi has aired
a broadcast in which the pilot son of United States Commander in the
Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian
targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received
since being taken prisoner." Saigon-UPI, June 4, 1969

"The English-Language broadcast beamed at South Vietnam was one of a
series using American prisoners. It was in response to a plea by Defense
Secretary Melvin S. Laird, May 19, that North Vietnam treat prisoners
according to the humanitarian standards set forth by the Geneva
Convention." The Washington Post - June 5, 1969

After being periodically slapped around for "three or four days" by his
captors who wanted military information from him, McCain called for an
officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, "O.K., I'll
give you military information if you will take me to the hospital." -U.S.
News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John
McCain

McCain was taken to Gai Lam military hospital. (U.S. government documents)

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate
my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave
them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had
been the power plant." Page 193-194, Faith of My Fathers by John McCain

Phoenix New Times, March 25, 1999 -- Two former POWs, Air Force Colonels Ted Guy and Gordon "Swede" Larson, said in a feature article that while they could not guarantee that McCain was not physically harmed, they doubted it. Both Guy and Larson were senior ranking officers (SRO's) in McCain's POW camp at a time he claims he was in solitary confinement and being tortured. Larson told the New Times, "Between the two of us, it's our belief, and to the best of our knowledge, that no prisoner was beaten or harmed physically in that camp [known as 'The Plantation'].
"My only contention with the McCain deal is that while he was at The
Plantation, to the best of my knowledge and Ted's knowledge, he was not
physically abused in any way. No one was in that camp. It was the camp
that people were released from."

Mythical John McCain
McCain starred during the 1991-93 proceedings of the Senate Select
Committee on POW/MIA Affairs.

Boston Globe, June 21, 2003--- "In the ensuing weeks and months [1991],
McCain and Kerry individually, and then together, concluded that the
unresolved divisions of the Vietnam War were causing too much national
anguish, and that it was time to put the war to rest.

Four years later, on a summer day in 1995, Kerry and McCain stood beside
President Clinton in the East Room at the White House as he announced that the United States would normalize diplomatic relations with Vietnam. For a president who most famously had not served in their war, the two combat veterans served as wingmen.

In his work toward that day, Kerry earned the ‘unbounded respect and
admiration’ of McCain, who, like others in the Senate, originally viewed
Kerry with suspicion. ‘You get to know people and you make decisions
about them,’ says McCain. ‘I found him to be the genuine article.’

". . . At hearings where McCain's anger at his critics flared, Kerry
would reach over and place his hand on McCain's arm to calm him down.
"I remain grateful to him for doing that," McCain acknowledges.

" . . . Ultimately, he [Kerry] crafted a report stating that while there
may have been POWs unaccounted for and possibly left behind, no proof
existed that Americans were still being held.

"Together, McCain and Kerry then led the effort to normalize relations
with Vietnam. ‘The work John Kerry and John McCain did’ is ‘truly one of
the most extraordinary events we have had in the last 50 years,’ says
Edward M. Kennedy, who has served in the Senate since 1962."


Real John McCain
During the hearings, he worked hand in hand with his Sen. John Kerry, the
panel's co-chairman, to discredit voluminous evidence indicating that
Vietnam was still held a sizeable numbers of U.S. servicemen alive after
the prisoner return in 1973. McCain stood out because he "always showed up for the committee hearings where witnesses were going to talk about specific pieces of evidence. He would belittle and berate these witnesses, questioning their patriotism and otherwise scoffing at their credibility. All of this is on record in the National Archives . . . "

When, on Nov. 11, 1992, McCain was advised that Dolores Apodaca Alfond, chairwoman of the National Alliance of POW/MIA Families (her pilot
brother, Capt. Victor J. Apodaca, is missing in action in North Vietnam),
was offering some testimony that was critical of the Senate Committee,
he rushed into the room to confront her.

Award winning journalist Sydney Schanberg described the scene. "His face
[McCain] angry and his voice very loud, he accused her of making
"allegations ... that are patently and totally false and deceptive." Making a fist, he shook his index finger at her and said she had insulted an emissary to Vietnam sent by President Bush. He said she had insulted other MIA families with her remarks. And then he said, through clenched teeth: "And I am sick and tired of you insulting mine and other people's
[patriotism] who happen to have different views than yours."

By this time, tears were running down Alfond's cheeks. She reached into
her handbag for a handkerchief. She tried to speak: "The family members
have been waiting for years -- years! And now you're shutting down." He
kept interrupting her. She tried to say, through tears, that she had
issued no insults. He kept talking over her words. He said she was
accusing him and others of "some conspiracy without proof, and some
cover-up." She said she was merely seeking "some answers. That is what
I am asking." He ripped into her for using the word "fiasco." She
replied: "The fiasco was the people that stepped out and said we have
written the end, the final chapter to Vietnam." "No one said that," he
shouted. "No one said what you are saying they said, Ms. Alfond." And
then, his face flaming pink, he stalked out of the room, to shouts of
disfavor from members of the audience.

McCain took the lead in demanding a U.S. Justice Department investigation
of POW/MIA families and activists accusing them of fraud because in some
of their fund-raising literature they claimed the U.S. government
knowingly left U.S. POWs behind after the Vietnam War and that some
remain alive today.

McCain told reporters, "The people who have done these things are not
zealots in a good cause. They are the most craven, most cynical and most
despicable human beings to ever run a scam." The Justice Department did
investigate the POW/MIA families and activists finding NO scams or
reasons to charge anyone.

The SPOTLIGHT November 15, 1999
McCain is famous in POW-MIA activist circles for his clashes with those
who disagree with his conclusion that no American POW or MIA was left
alive in communist hands when he was repatriated by the Hanoi government n 1973.

Perhaps the best example of his crude treatment of the loved ones of
still-unaccounted-for POWs and MIAs is illustrated by an incident that
occurred in 1996 when the senator's path crossed with a number of POW-MIA family members outside of a hearing room in Washington.
Upon leaving the room, McCain immediately quarreled with family members, who were eager to question him on the issue. Instead of answering their questions, the Arizona senator pushed and shoved them out of his way, nearly toppling the wheelchair of POW-MIA mother Jane Duke Gaylor, whose son, Charles Duke, a civilian worker in Vietnam, is among the same 2,300 American POWs and MIAs still unaccounted for by the communists.

The Duke case file contains sufficient evidence that Duke was a prisoner
of the communists, according to Garnet "Bill" Bell, who headed the U.S.
government POW-MIA office in Hanoi. The POW-MIA activists, shocked and horrified by McCain's crude behavior toward Mrs Gaylor, registered their complaints with Senate officials.

Mrs Gaylor and her niece, Geannette Jenkins, who was pushing her
wheelchair, were advised by Sgt. Dana Sundberg of the Capitol Hill
Police to file assault charges against McCain. They declined, fearful
of the power of the Arizona senator.

"Dr. Fernando Barral, a Spanish psychiatrist residing in Cuba, returned
from the Democratic Republic of Vietnam . . . he brought back some
journalistic news: an interview with a North American pilot captured in
the DRV after bombing Hanoi on 26 October 1967. The meeting between him and the pilot took place in an office of the Committee for Foreign
Cultural Relations in Hanoi. The pilot interviewed is Lt Cmdr John Sidney
McCain, son and grandson of American Navy Admirals.

"In the course of the interview, on various occasions he showed that
knowledge of the language, saying some words, dates, and so forth in
Spanish, or [using it] when he thought the interpreter was seeking the
corresponding French word. "Naturally, from the beginning this established a more direct communication between us, and more than one question or my response was made directly in Spanish." Havana Granma January 24, 1970

Col. Bui Tin, a former Senior Colonel in the North Vietnamese Army
(he had actually interrogated McCain and other U.S. prisoners)
testified before the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs in 1992.

At least 55 American POWs were murdered by their interrogators and guards while in North Vietnamese prisoner of war camps. During a break in the hearing, Sen. McCain moved to where Col. Bui Tin was seated and warmly embraced him as if he were a long lost brother.

Sen. John McCain warmly greeted Vietnam Prime Minister Vo Van Kiet during a 1992 visit to Hanoi. Kiet was a ranking communist party member of the secret Central Committee of the former National Liberation Front (Viet Cong), and was part of the elite clique responsible for setting policies
and directing the communist war waged against the pro-democracy
Vietnamese as well as U.S. forces in South Vietnam.

As a senior Central Committee member, Kiet ordered American POWs to be punished by execution and helped formulate the Vietnamese communist
policy which resulted in the murder of thousands of pro-U.S. South
Vietnamese in Hue during the Tet Offensive of 1968. Communist Party
henchmen executed over 5,000 men, women, and children, burying many of them alive in mass graves during the brief time North Vietnamese troops held that historic ancient Vietnamese city.

Senator McCain is pictured embracing Mai Van On in Hanoi, November 13,
1996. On identified himself as one of the Vietnamese who pulled McCain
from Hanoi's Truc Bach Lake, where McCain parachuted in 1967 after his
bomber was shot down. McCain has said, many times, that, after pulling
him from the lake, the Vietnamese brutally beat him and stabbed him with
a bayonet.

July 11, 1995, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., (right), and Sen. John Kerry,
D-Mass., (center), gave President Bill Clinton, (left), the valuable
political cover he needed to remove the U.S. imposed trade embargo
against communist Vietnam. All major U.S. veterans organizations, the two POW/MIA family groups, and the majority of Vietnamese Americans in this country opposed Clinton's lifting of the embargo.

McCain lost five U.S. Navy aircraft. Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.

His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe
later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while McCain III
was being held prisoner of war. McCain III's grandfather John S. McCain,
Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.

During his relative short stunt on flight status, McCain III lost five
U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.

Robert Timberg, author of The Nightingale's Song, a book about Annapolis
graduates and their tours in Vietnam, wrote that McCain "learned to fly
at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at best good enough
to get by. He liked flying, but didn't love it."

McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus
Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the
impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.

McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean.
"Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula," Timberg wrote, "he took out
some power lines [reminiscent of the 1998 incident in which a Marine
Corps jet sliced through the cables of a gondola at an Italian ski resort,
killing 20] which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was
predictably identified as the son of an admiral."

McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a
Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.

Timberg reported that McCain radioed, "I've got a flameout" and went
through standard relight procedures three times before ejecting at one
thousand feet. McCain landed on a deserted beach moments before the plane
slammed into a clump of trees.

McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he was
assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in
the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently
fired rocket slammed into McCain's plane. He escaped from the burning
aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed
at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.

McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam
on Oct. 26, 1967, when McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-
to-air missile. McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a
leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near
Hanoi.

After being drug from the lake, a mob gathered around McCain, spit on him,
kicked him and stripped him of his clothing. He was bayoneted in his left
foot and his shoulder crushed by a rifle butt. He was then transported to
the Hoa Lo Prison, also known as the Hanoi Hilton.

After being periodically slapped around for "three or four days" by his
captors who wanted military information, McCain called for an officer on
his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, "O.K., I'll give you
military information if you will take me to the hospital." -U.S. News
and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to
terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate.
Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and
confirmed that my target had been the power plant." Page 193-194,
Faith of My Fathers by John McCain.

When the communist learned that McCain's father was Admiral John S.
McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific,
he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital (U.S. government documents),
a medical facility normally unavailable for U.S. POWs.

The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW McCain's father was of
such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing circle.
Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown
prince."

For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the
U.S. Navy awarded McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a
Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals
plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.

"McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat," explains Bill Bell, a veteran of
Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs -- the
first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall of
Saigon. "Since McCain got 28 medals," Bell continues, "that equals out to
about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were
infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in
combat and I can tell you that there were times and situations where I'm
sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison.
The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not
being shot down."

For years, McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.

McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero
presidential candidate.

JOHN MCCAIN was directly responsible for
the DEATHS of FELLOW AMERICAN PILOTS in VIETNAM

The War Secrets Senator John McCain Hides
Former POW Fights Public Access to POW/MIA Files

Why has McCain been Communist Vietnam's best friend in the US Congress?

Was John McCain Brainwashed by his North Vietnamese Captors to Destroy this Nation?

McCain Drops F-Bomb "RAISING MCCAIN"
Is McCain emotionally unstable?

Legendary Temper Could Undermine McCain

Henry Kissinger Takes Heat on MIAs!

McCain lost five U.S.Navy aircraft!!!

Betrayal, deceit, corruption and John McCain.


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