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    No, Passing ‘Comphrensive Immigration Reform’ Will Not Help the GOP Win Elections

    November 16, 2012
    Bryan Preston
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    In an otherwise fine piece here at PJM on how identity politics did indeed hand Barack Obama another four years in the presidency, Patrick Reddy writes:

    The disappointing Romney showing among Hispanics and Asians can be directly tied to the immigrant-bashing of some within the GOP. But this problem can quickly be solved by supporting a compromise immigration bill like the one President Reagan signed in 1986, and by putting a popular Hispanic like Marco Rubio on the Republican ticket in 2016 or 2020.

    Um, really?

    In 1986, President Reagan signed the Simpson-Mazzoli Act into law. That act was the culmination of years of determined and often bipartisan work in Congress. It was supposed to guarantee border security in exchange for legal status leading to a pathway to citizenship for about 3 million illegal aliens then living in the United States. It was a middle-of-the-road bill, sponsored by moderates, that ended up satisfying neither the right nor the left. It spelled out harsher penalties on employers who knowingly hired illegal aliens. The amnesty part happened, contributing to a sharp increase in the share of the Hispanic vote — from 2% in 1986 to a decisive 10% in 2012. As early as 1989, the security side of the law was seen as a failure. Don’t take my word for it. Here’s the New York Times on June 18, 1989.

    The most sweeping effort to halt illegal immigration in American history, the 1986 overhaul of immigration law, may have cut the flow of illegal aliens less than expected and may have actually encouraged unlawful entry in several ways.



    According to indicators used by the immigration service to estimate traffic across the southern border, this year there will be 1.7 million to 2.5 million crossings. The most recent statistics signal that the flow may have increased in April and May.

    Separate surveys of illegal aliens conducted by researchers based in Mexico, Texas and California all found that immigration by first-time travelers, as against those who had previously been to the United States, has been on the rise for at least a year. Experts also agree that the flow had dropped off through most of 1987. As a result, immigration experts say they have identified a ”wait and see” response to the law among potential immigrants that may be producing a new wave of illegal immigration.



    The 1986 law allowed 3.1 million previously illegal aliens to obtain legal status here. Recent studies show that many thousands of people crossed the border surreptitiously to take advantage of the program, some of them with falsified documents and personal histories. The mass of newly legalized immigrants is also acting as a magnet for illegal aliens who want to come to the United States to join friends and relatives.

    A plan to strengthen the Border Patrol was never fully carried out, and experts reach widely differing verdicts on the effectiveness of the sanctions against employers who hire illegal aliens.

    In the 1980s, California was still a state that could vote either Republican or Democrat at the state and presidential levels. Now, it’s a lock for the Democrats.

    Essentially, and I’m probably oversimplifying a bit here, the 1960s expansion of the U.S. welfare state under LBJ combined with grinding poverty and general lawlessness and oppression in Mexico and Central America created powerful incentives for millions of people to migrate north in search of a mix of work, greater freedom, and more generous government benefits (better schools, hospitals, and so forth). Many business concerns were only too happy to have the influx of labor that was importing itself and was willing to work at below-market wages and conditions. The 1986 amnesty was a “comprehensive immigration reform” that turned out to be less comprehensive than advertised. It was intended to deal with the problem of mass illegal immigration at the border with enhanced security, and in the US interior by granting legal status. Security never really happened, while the legal status was granted. Millions of new citizens have been minted in Simpson-Mazzoli’s wake. As the NYT story says, that 1986 immigration “reform” not only failed to cut off the flow of illegal immigrants, at a minimum it gave other non-Americans a reason to look north and hope that if they crossed the border illegally, there would be another amnesty granting them legal status as some point, too. Given the current debate, it’s impossible to argue that they were wrong.

    Surely, if facts matter at all, the facts of the nation’s last attempt at “comprehensive immigration reform” matter when discussing any current drive toward “comprehensive immigration reform.” Those facts should also inform us regarding what to do now.

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    Last edited by Jean; 11-16-2012 at 11:48 PM.
    We have immigration laws that just need to be enforced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
    Essentially... the 1960s expansion of the U.S. welfare state under LBJ combined with grinding poverty and general lawlessness and oppression in Mexico and Central America created powerful incentives for millions of people to migrate north in search of a mix of work, greater freedom, and more generous government benefits (better schools, hospitals, and so forth). Many business concerns were only too happy to have the influx of labor that was importing itself and was willing to work at below-market wages and conditions.

    Surely, if facts matter at all, the facts of the nation’s last attempt at “comprehensive immigration reform” matter when discussing any current drive toward “comprehensive immigration reform.” Those facts should also inform us regarding what to do now.
    Yeah, and since large majorities of Mexicans, Asians, blacks, and the young all voted Democrat, maybe we should think twice before doing something whose results we already know.

    Border security is an illusion. Ranks right up there with the War on Drugs. The border will never be secure. Fortunately, it doesn't have to be. The problem of illegal aliens begins with the lure of jobs. That tells us that Universal E-Verify should be our Number One goal. The illegals who are here will probably go on welfare rather than go home, but once the word gets out that there are no jobs for illegals, illegal immigration will no longer be the huge problem that it is right now.

    'Bama will resist Universal E-Verify, because it will work. And by "work" I mean that it will preserve American jobs for American workers. So 'Bama Quisling doesn't want it. Patriots will have to repeat over and over that illegals take jobs which Americans used to do and would do again, if only they could get hired.

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    Last edited by vistalad; 11-17-2012 at 05:03 AM.

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    No Amnesty.

    No Dream Act.

    No Achieve Act.

    No Compromise.
    "A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation." Ronald Reagan "SAVE AMERICA, DEPORT CONGRESS." Judy

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    Just saw The Who at Barclays Center 11/14/12.
    If a man sneaks into your home he is a burglar, not an undocumented tenant you must provide for!

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