Thread: Trump Claims, With No Evidence, That ‘Millions of People’ Voted Illegally

Trump Claims, With No Evidence, That ‘Millions of People’ Voted Illegally

By MICHAEL D. SHEAR and MAGGIE HABERMANNOV. 27, 2016

WASHINGTON — President-elect Donald J. Trump said on Sunday that he had fallen short in the popular vote in the general election only because millions of people had voted illegally, leveling his claim — despite the absence of any such evidence — as part of a daylong storm of Twitter posts voicing anger about a three-state recount push.

“In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally,” Mr. Trump wrote Sunday afternoon.
The series of posts came one day after Hillary Clinton’s campaign said it would participate in a recount effort being undertaken in Wisconsin, and potentially in similar pushes in Michigan and Pennsylvania, by Jill Stein, who was the Green Party candidate. Mr. Trump’s statements revived claims he made during the campaign, as polls suggested he was losing to Mrs. Clinton, about a rigged and corrupt system.

The Twitter outburst also came as Mr. Trump is laboring to fill crucial positions in his cabinet, with his advisers enmeshed in a rift over whom he should select as secretary of state. On Sunday morning, Kellyanne Conway, a top adviser, extended a public campaign to undermine one contender, Mitt Romney — a remarkable display by a member of a president-elect’s team. She accused Mr. Romney of having gone “out of his way to hurt” Mr. Trump during the Republican primary contests.

Officially, Mr. Trump’s transition team has dismissed the recount effort as “ridiculous” and a “scam,” saying there was no evidence of voter fraud that would justify the recounts.

Mrs. Clinton’s campaign has also said that it has turned up no signs of such fraud or other irregularities, and the Obama administration has issued statements expressing its confidence in the validity of the vote tallies.

But Mr. Trump appeared fixated on Sunday on the recount and his electoral performance. In a series of midafternoon Twitter posts, not long before he boarded a flight to New York from Florida, Mr. Trump boasted that he could have easily won the “so-called popular vote” if he had campaigned only in “3 or 4” states, presumably populous ones.

“I would have won even more easily and convincingly (but smaller states are forgotten)!” he wrote.

The afternoon messages followed a string of early-morning Twitter posts in which the president-elect railed against the recount efforts. In an initial post at 7:19, Mr. Trump wrote:

“Hillary Clinton conceded the election when she called me just prior to the victory speech and after the results were in. Nothing will change.”

He went on to quote a comment by Mrs. Clinton during one of their debates, in which she said she was horrified by Mr. Trump’s refusal to say that he would accept the outcome of the election. And he noted that in her concession speech, she had urged people to respect the vote results.

“‘We have to accept the results and look to the future, Donald Trump is going to be our President,’” Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter, quoting Mrs. Clinton. “‘We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead.’ So much time and money will be spent — same result! Sad.”

One person who spoke with Mr. Trump over the holiday weekend said the president-elect had appeared to be preoccupied by suggestions that a recount might be started, even as his aides played down any concerns. Another friend said Mr. Trump felt crossed by Mrs. Clinton, who he believed had conceded the race and accepted the results.

Mr. Trump’s aides echoed his concerns about the recount effort in appearances on Sunday morning television news programs. Ms. Conway, who was his campaign manager, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that Mrs. Clinton and her campaign advisers would have to decide “whether they’re going to be a bunch of crybabies.”

The Clinton campaign will not contribute financially to the recount effort, but it will have its lawyers present at the recount, campaign officials said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/27/us...on-romney.html

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William Gheen ‏@ALIPAC 7m7 minutes ago William Gheen Retweeted Donald J. Trump
Bingo @realDonaldTrump is right on the money and tomorrow #ALIPAC will launch a national activism campaign to go after those illegal voters!

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally





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Donald Trump: ‘I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally’

By Cleve R. Wootson Jr. November 27 at 5:45 PM

Here’s what you need to know about the Wisconsin vote recount controversy

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Republicans and Democrats react to the announcement that Hillary Clinton’s campaign plans to join a vote recount in Wisconsin initiated by former Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein. (Video: Bastien Inzaurralde/Photo: Nikki Kahn/The Washington Post)

Disheartened Hillary Clinton supporters have been consoled by the fact that she won the national popular vote, despite losing the electoral vote — and the presidential election — to Donald Trump.

But on Sunday afternoon, Trump said on Twitter that he also would have won the popular vote — if a whole bunch of people had not voted illegally.

“It would have been much easier for me to win the so-called popular vote than the Electoral College in that I would only campaign in 3 or 4 … states instead of the 15 states that I visited,” Trump tweeted. “I would have won even more easily and convincingly (but smaller states are forgotten)!”

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In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally
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states instead of the 15 states that I visited. I would have won even more easily and convincingly (but smaller states are forgotten)!
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Trump's argument is a bigger version of the claim he has made for months — that there is rampant voter fraud in America.

“It's largely a rigged system. And you see it at the polling booths, too,” he said this month. “There are reports that when people vote for Republicans the entire ticket switches over to Democrats. You've seen that. It's happening at various places today. It's been reported. In other words, the machines, you put down a Republican and it registers as a Democrat. They've had a lot of complaints about that today.”

The Washington Post reported that there were not widespread reports of voter fraud during the election.

In October, Trump's son, Eric, cited statistics about noncitizens and dead people on the voting rolls and said the candidate would accept the election results "100 percent if it's fair.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ted-illegally/

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You damn straight you would have won the popular vote but for the millions who voted illegally!!

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Election Fraud Complaint Filed As More People Voted Than Total Voters In 4 Wisconsin Precincts

By Jason Easley on Sat, Nov 26th, 2016 at 1:19 pm

An election fraud complaint has been filed with the Wisconsin Elections Commission after it was uncovered that more people voted in the presidential race than the total number of votes in 4 precincts in Wisconsin.



An election fraud complaint has been filed with the Wisconsin Elections Commission after it was uncovered that more people voted in the presidential race than the total number of votes in 4 precincts in Wisconsin.

The Democratic Coalition Against Trump announced the complaint in a statement, “The Democratic Coalition Against Trump filed an Election Fraud complaint with the Wisconsin Elections Commission on Saturday afternoon regarding four separate precincts located within Outagamie County, WI.

According to local reports, there were four precincts in Hortonville, Cicero, Bear Creek, and Grand Chute, where it was reported that more people had voted in the presidential race, than had voted overall.

The discrepancy, which was attributed by local officials to human error, added over 1,000 votes to Donald Trump which were then taken away when the official election results were posted.

The Democratic Coalition Against Trump filed the Election Fraud complaint to urge the Wisconsin Elections Commission to look into these precincts to investigate this vote padding as intentional fraud, as opposed to a clerical error.”

It appears that there may have been some classic examples of vote padding happening in Wisconsin.

When a reliably blue state in recent presidential elections suddenly shifts to red by the smallest of margins, it should raise some concerns.

The state has removed nearly 5,000 votes from Trump’s lead over due to human error.

“When you have not one, but four separate precincts reporting that more people voted for president than voted overall, that should not be treated as a clerical error, but rather as a coordinated attempt to commit widespread election fraud,” said Scott Dworkin, Senior Advisor to the Coalition.

“The Wisconsin Elections Commission should not look into just these precincts, but into every other precinct in the state where there was a discrepancy,” Dworkin added.

The state should be looking into every vote in every precinct because this level of error is unprecedented.

The numbers aren’t adding up in Wisconsin.

As more irregularities are found in the totals scrutiny should be increased.

Voters deserve to have their questions answered, and the best way to verify the integrity of the nation’s elections is with a full audit and recount in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

PoliticusUSA has reached out to The Democratic Coalition Against Trump for an update on the status of the complaint and is awaiting their reply.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/...precincts.html