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    Quote Originally Posted by chloe24
    Arizona SB1070 accomplishes very little accept sacrificing the liberty of U.S. citizens. The state will be defending lawsuits which will increase the debt of the state.
    It's so disgusting how some of our own "allies" are using the same arguments as the OBL when it comes to SB1070. Like HB1804 in Oklahoma, SB1070 will be upheld. The lawsuits aren't meant to stop SB1070. They're meant to push back the implementation date and make other states think twice about following Arizona's lead. The cost of defending SB1070 is totally insignificant compared to the one billion dollars that Arizona tax payers spend every year because of the illegal invasion.

    Everyone should realize an Immigration Reform bill is very likely to pass in Congress. There will be enough Republicans who will court the Hispanic vote to insure passage in spite of what citizens may want. When that takes place what real good will SB1070 do? The people in our country illegally today will be given a pathway to citizenship and then legally be allowed to stay in our country.
    With that kind of attitude, W should just go ahead and shut down ALIPAC. With friends like these, who needs enemies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chloe24
    Some further reading on the subject:

    This article will detail why SB1070 threatens the liberty of all citizens. SB1070 is the symptom of a disease threatening all citizens.
    This law in no way threatens ME or my family. In order to even be ask for status you have to break a law. We don't break laws so we have no reason to worry. Anytime I have called the police to deal with a problem, they ask me for my driver's license. I have absolutely no problem with that. Anyone that feels threatened by this law has bought into progressive liberal hysteria, or they are illegal and don't belong here.

    Quote Originally Posted by chloe24
    The Alliance works with constitutional attorneys, privacy advocates and citizens on both the right and left. The Alliance was joined by the ACLJ and the ACLU
    There lies the problem. Any group that works with thsi socialist group the ACLU is a problem in my mind. What has the ACLU done to insure this country is not being invaded by illegal aliens? File a lawsuit to allow it to continue. What has the ACLU done to prevent the Black Panthers from intimidating voters? Nothing but turn their backs. The ACLU is only concerned with protecting criminals, minorities and their own special agendas.


    Quote Originally Posted by SecureTheBorder

    The lawsuits aren't meant to stop SB1070. They're meant to push back the implementation date and make other states think twice about following Arizona's lead.
    I think the plot is a little more diabolical that that. I think they are only hoping to push back implementation long enough to pass amnesty. then the law is useless. The North American Union is the ultimate goal, no borders. Bush tried, Clinton tried Bush Jr, tried and now Obama is left to finish the job.
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    My feelings that Obama is a traitor to the people and the Constitution of the US were strong last week when I wrote this release.

    My feelings have intensified immensely after reading his seditious orders for NASA to focus on reaching out to Muslims instead of exploring space, planets, and stars.

    The news that his administration is suing Arizona has sealed the deal.

    Obama, you are a TRAITOR and you are going down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GR
    The "only" German Nazi tactics that are being used between Mexico and America, are those from the Mexico side of the border.

    America CAN NEVER - NEVER - support another nation's people.

    NO nation on this God's created Earth can do that.

    Now if the illegal aliens (from all countries) want to go to the moon (or any other planet), then perhaps they can get the residence there to support them without the invading illegal aliens destroying their culture, planet, nation, and be able to protect themselves from the deadly force of the illegal aliens.

    Americans have got to find a way to define the term "illegal alien" to truly explain how violently involved just about all illegal aliens are against America's survival as a sovereign nation and free people.

    Mexico's illegal aliens are a gang unto themselves solely based on the fact that they are allied by their race.

    If anyone is being racist in this invasion, it's THE RACE (headed by la raza and other anti-Americans like them), which has bound themselves together (by racial allegiance to each other) to fight the big bad gringo.

    This is true of all nation's races who are invading the United States of America.

    The "UNITED" States of America, which means that the American majority is "UNITED" as a nation of states and people who are being mis-represented (i.e.; taxation without representation) by those who look down on Americans as lesser humans than the foreigners they crawl after.
    100%

    could not agree more.

    I was (yet again) sickened today at this complete outrage of the Dept of Social Justice declaring total war on me and so many other American Citizens in order to once again help the invaders take over our nation. I put Citizens with a capital C because at least to me it still means something, despite the regime's efforts to make the word worthless with their daily assaults on Americans and our society.

    the latest assault on our society as William noted is Obama's deliberate wrecking of NASA by putting this marxist stooge in charge there and the clearly Obama-driven garbage about muslim outreach. there apparently is no low this communist-in-chief will not stoop to, to deliberately and purposefully ruin our country, society and our literal fabric of who we are.

    as far as being a direct harmful threat to our nation, Obama > Osama
    by a mile.

    I only hope we as a people wake up to the devastation this tyrant is causing before the tipping point is passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtex
    Quote Originally Posted by chloe24
    Some further reading on the subject:

    This article will detail why SB1070 threatens the liberty of all citizens. SB1070 is the symptom of a disease threatening all citizens.
    This law in no way threatens ME or my family. In order to even be ask for status you have to break a law. We don't break laws so we have no reason to worry. Anytime I have called the police to deal with a problem, they ask me for my driver's license. I have absolutely no problem with that. Anyone that feels threatened by this law has bought into progressive liberal hysteria, or they are illegal and don't belong here.

    Quote Originally Posted by chloe24
    The Alliance works with constitutional attorneys, privacy advocates and citizens on both the right and left. The Alliance was joined by the ACLJ and the ACLU
    There lies the problem. Any group that works with thsi socialist group the ACLU is a problem in my mind. What has the ACLU done to insure this country is not being invaded by illegal aliens? File a lawsuit to allow it to continue. What has the ACLU done to prevent the Black Panthers from intimidating voters? Nothing but turn their backs. The ACLU is only concerned with protecting criminals, minorities and their own special agendas.


    Quote Originally Posted by SecureTheBorder

    The lawsuits aren't meant to stop SB1070. They're meant to push back the implementation date and make other states think twice about following Arizona's lead.
    I think the plot is a little more diabolical that that. I think they are only hoping to push back implementation long enough to pass amnesty. then the law is useless. The North American Union is the ultimate goal, no borders. Bush tried, Clinton tried Bush Jr, tried and now Obama is left to finish the job.
    I realize something desperately needs to be done and I support the citizens of AZ and any border state that has to put up with such disregard of our immigration laws. I just think a better remedy would have been to repeal any law that allows benefits to non-citizens. As I mentioned earlier, this is what attracts them in the first place. The state would save millions and the illegals would self deport. It makes me wonder whether this is all just smoke and mirrors to get us to believe they are truly serious about stopping illegal immigration.

    Problem/Reaction/Solution: An intentional problem is created. (illegal immigration) The citizens react. The Government offers a solution.

    The elites have used this strategy many times before into deceiving us into giving up our liberties without us even realizing it. This is my main concern and why I never trust what appears on the surface. I'm always looking much deeper.

    By the way, the LAST thing you should ever believe is that as long as you are a law abiding citizen and not the intended target of certain laws, you needn't worry. History has overwhelmingly proven otherwise.

    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin

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    RE: AZ's SB1070 and a 'stupid moment' when a legal alien forgets the green card.

    It's a valid point, as people do forget things (me and my wallet, keys, glasses, name it and I've forgotten it). So what exactly would happen in this case -- a legal alien with a green card who just forgot it that one time when the officer asks for ID?

    Would this individual be-- arrested? Given a chance to go get the green card? Booked into Jail? Sincere question, how exactly would this situation be handled?

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    Wonderful thread! I agree with the use of the word "traitor" and if anyone is offended by the application of the term to them perhaps they will choose to educate themselves before the internet kill switch is activated.

    I am highly offended at the use of the word "racist" against citizens and Arizona and those name callers cannot retract their statement because they have no ground to stand on. I am also highly offended at so many citizens who would buy into the "racist" label without due diligence.

    It is true that legal U.S. citizens of Mexican descent do fear inappropriate application of the law and that speaking out on an unpopular issue could cause them to be erroneously deported accidentally on purpose. So when I see statements that such and such a percentage of Mexican descent citizens support SB1070 I have difficulty believing it because I know too many that feel stifled into silence by the possibility. In other words, I think that many more do support it but do not dare to say so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC

    My feelings have intensified immensely after reading his seditious orders for NASA to focus on reaching out to Muslims instead of exploring space, planets, and stars.
    CAN YOU IMAGINE? The mission of NASA is now to make Muslims feel better about themselves? At the expense of hundreds of American's jobs.

    Obama and the idiot he placed as head of NASA are both out of their minds.

    We here in Houston are OUTRAGED over this dumb decision.
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