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    Where do I vote with my dollars - Sticky, Please?

    I'm a big believer in using my consumer dollar as the carrot and stick for bad behavior by companies. My logo is ARCO, which I chose because a few years ago Chevron and Exxon were corporate sponsors of NCLR. Well, after looking at La Raza's web site, Chevron is still there, but Exxon isn't. Furthermore, if you download NCLR's annual report, it looks like "BP" (which I have to assume is British Petroleum and I'm pretty sure owns ARCO) gave NCLR over $200,000. And so did Shell! Is it safe to buy gas at Mobile? It looks like I need to change my logo. And it would be nice if ALIPAC made a sticky note keeping track of this stuff.

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    Here's the link to NCLR's page: http://www.nclr.org/section/corporate_partners/

    Here's the paste from NCLR's annual report:

    $200,000 AND ABOVE
    Allstate Insurance Company
    The Annie E. Casey Foundation
    The Atlantic Philanthropies
    Bank of America
    Bank of America Foundation
    The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
    BP
    Charles Stewart Mott Foundation
    Citi
    ConAgra Foods, Inc.
    Corporation for National and
    Community Service
    Diageo NA
    Fannie Mae
    The Ford Foundation
    Ford Motor Company
    Freddie Mac
    General Motors Corporation
    The John D. and Catherine T.
    MacArthur Foundation
    John S. and James L. Knight
    Foundation
    Johnson & Johnson
    Lowe’s Companies, Inc.
    Merck/Schering-Plough
    Pharmaceuticals
    MetLife
    Mott Philanthropic
    NeighborWorks America
    Open Society Institute
    PepsiCo Foundation
    Shell Oil Company
    State Farm Insurance Companies
    The Rockefeller Foundation
    The Texas High School Project Fund
    of Communities Foundation of
    Texas
    Tides Foundation
    United States Department of
    Education
    United States Department of
    Housing and Urban Development
    UPS
    Verizon
    Verizon Foundation
    W.K. Kellogg Foundation
    Wachovia Foundation
    Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.

    And one last thing: NCLR is always squawking that "La Raza" doesn't mean "The Race" but instead instead encompasses the larger community, "the pueblo." If that were the case, wouldn't we see all members of the community represented in NCLR - blacks, Asians... whites, even? Check out their annual report. The only white guy pictured is John McCain. LOL!

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    Re: Where do I vote with my dollars - Sticky, Please?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmyCarter
    I'm a big believer in using my consumer dollar as the carrot and stick for bad behavior by companies. My logo is ARCO, which I chose because a few years ago Chevron and Exxon were corporate sponsors of NCLR. Well, after looking at La Raza's web site, Chevron is still there, but Exxon isn't. Furthermore, if you download NCLR's annual report, it looks like "BP" (which I have to assume is British Petroleum and I'm pretty sure owns ARCO) gave NCLR over $200,000. And so did Shell! Is it safe to buy gas at Mobile? It looks like I need to change my logo. And it would be nice if ALIPAC made a sticky note keeping track of this stuff.
    I agree with you Amy and I believe there was such a list here at alipac if I am not mistaken. Try a search.

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    United States Department of Education
    United States Department of Housing and Urban Development
    That would be our tax dollars folks.
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    I am currently reading a book titled, Return From The Findland Station, Moral Odysseys In The Breakdown Of Communism by Kenneth Murphy. So far it is a good read, a different approach at visiting the subject.

    Bukharin, one of the original revolutionaries aside Lenin had some interesting thoughts concerning economies. Bukharin studied Hilferding's book Finance Capital. Hilferding was an economist and a Marxist. Hilferding's claim to fame was that he introduced the concept of finance capital,....bank capital in monetary form, transformed into industrial capital. From the author, Murphy, "Mature capitalism was for him (Hilferding) finance capitalism, a system distinguished by its orginizing tendencies. As finance capital permeated an entire economy and large trusts became dominant, regulation would eliminate the unfettered competition of smaller units. And once home markets were monopolized and in chains, finance capital would move abroad in search of other game."

    Bukharin wondered if there was another way, something between communism and capitalism for a economic model. He projected Hilferding's work into the future. Was there a third model? Bukharin thought there was. "Because the making of trusts involves the fusion of industrial and banking interests with the power of the state itself, Bukharin called this new Leviathan "state capitalism." The state ceases to be a capitalist too. It becomes a living tyrant, a direct owner and organizer of the economy, with a "colossal, almost monstrous power." Laissez-faire capitalism gives way to a form of "collective capitalism," whose predatory "finance capitalist oligarchy" conducts its raids directly through the state, "which more and more becomes a direct exploiter, organising and directing production as a collective capitalist. As state control rampages, "the process of organisation continually eliminates the anarchy of the separate parts of the 'national econonomic; mechanisim, placing all of the economic life under the iron heel of the militaristic state."
    Driven by insatiable lust, the state penetrates all areas of social life. Separation of state and society is systematically abridged: "It can even be said with some truth thatt there is not a single nook of social life that the bourgeoisie can leave unorganised." All groups and organizations become mere "divisions of a gigantic state mechanism," until the state stands alone, omnivorous and omnipotent. Bukharin's vision is nightmarish:
    Thus arises the final type of the contemporary imperialist robber state, an iron organisation which envelops the living body of society in its tenacious, grasping paws. It is a new Leviathan, before which the fantasy of Thomas Hobbes seems child's play. And even more "non est potestas super terram quae comparetur ei" (there is no power on earth that can compare with it).
    In his description of an all-powerful state, Bukharin foresaw the structure of what Hannah Arendt later called the "totalitarian state." He also anticipated the agonizing question this development was to pose for Marxists. Was it possible that "statization" could become so pervasive that the prospect of revolution would be diminished? Was a third way, neither capitalist nor socialist, imaginable for man's future? Yes, was his answer. "Such an economic structure would," he mused, "resemble a slave-owning economy where the slave market is absent."
    If this was possible, post-capitalist society would only usher in an even crueler system of exploitation, not the promised land of pure communism. This was the stake plunged deep into the heart of socialist theory.

    The book was published in 1991 after collapse of communism in Russia.

    The reason I posted this was to show that economist have for a long time tried to project the capitalist system into the future. How would it evolve? All of this study for the most part was from a European perspective at, or before the turn of the 20th century up until the Russian Revolution.

    Some of the visions of the theorists of the time still seem to haunt the economic landscape of today.

    When I go to a pizza parlor for pizza there is good chance that Con Agra has it's ingredients in the pie. Wal-Mart dollars and their power goes great distances. Sam's Club, the suppliers and processors of the Great Value sticker also make other generic and name brand products of other retailers, who also might use the ingredients supplied by Con Agra. The web is large.

    Support smaller business, defeat carbon cap and trade. I believe that carbon cap and trade will only benefit the larger corporations while adding cost prohibitive regulation onto the smaller companies. Perhaps that is the reason for state sponsored regulations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReggieMay
    United States Department of Education
    United States Department of Housing and Urban Development
    That would be our tax dollars folks.
    They are getting way more of our money than threw these to government programs....Fannie Mae, ACORN, Tides Foundation, and list goes on, these organizations get billions in taxpayer funds and then they give to LaRaza, ACORN and other radical progressive goups.

    The amount would be shocking, but of course they have made it almost impossible to track, especially with out the will to do so.
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    Do you donate to LaRaza? Perhaps not directly. By watching TV, and supporting the advertising? Like it or not your adiction to TV helps to enable your enemies to herd you like a sheep to slaughter. Too harsh?

    Your politicians know how to play the games aswell. They play the shakedown card. The corporations will step in line when the political elites need them too. The politicians with the help of the media release reports which enrage the public, the politicians which have isolated the industry of choice then say, 'see there Mr. CEO, the public is irate, would you like for us to call off the dogs?' A dog and pony show goes along way when the masses of sheep allow it to.

    The big money plays the sheep like a song in the juke box. Dance puppet, dance.

    How much do you pay for your medicine? Your poison that you continue to espouse as so bitter? Open wide, quite complaining, it is good for you. You are what you eat! Prices are going up, you get to pay more for your poison, quit moaning you love it! You know you do.

    Put your money where your mouth is, not much time left? The monied interest will drop another nickel in the juke box, wanna dance? Dance anyway, that is an order.

    Oops, did I poke you in the eye?

    No lobbyist in Washington to represent the people, to represent you? Sure there are, you help to pay for all of them. Baaaaaaaa!

    Are you an enabler, a conformist, or a rouge element looking for change you can believe in? Change will require work and a drastic and honest assesment of your behavior. Ready yet?

    How much money and power do you transfer or help to pay for unwittingly?

    It only takes one dog to move a flock of sheep. Hello lamb chops!

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