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Gogo ALIPAC Super Hero


Joined: May 18, 2007 Posts: 10306 Location: Alipacers Come In All Colors
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:22 am Post subject: I JUST GOT THIS EMAIL FROM PERNOD RICARD - ABSOLUT |
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I just received this email response from Pernod Ricarad, the French Company that will be acquiring Absolut:
Dear xxxxx,
We, as Pernod Ricard, were also shocked and have immediatly asked V&S to stop this ad although we are still not owners ....
We will only be officially in charge after the closing, some time during next summer ...
But I hope V&S has followed our instructions and removed this shocking ad ...
Denis FIEVET
Directeur Communication Financière
et Relations Investisseurs
Vice President Financial Communication
and Investor Relations
Tel: 00 33 (0)1 41 00 42 02
Fax: 00 33 (0)1 41 00 42 32
Catherine SERVIER
Investor Relations
Assistant to Denis FIEVET
Tel 01 41 00 41 71
Fax 01 41 00 42 32 |
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miguelina ALIPAC Super Hero


Joined: Oct 01, 2007 Posts: 7412
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| Good for Pernod! I still say we boycott Absolut & co-brands as long as V&S are their owners. Let their stock take a beating! |
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April ALIPAC Executive Officer


Joined: Dec 07, 2006 Posts: 21778
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Glad that he sees it as shocking and that it should be removed immediately! This whole thing is absolut insanity!!! _________________
Running FULL FORCE AGAINST AMNESTY for ILLEGALS!!!! |
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Gogo ALIPAC Super Hero


Joined: May 18, 2007 Posts: 10306 Location: Alipacers Come In All Colors
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| April wrote: | | Glad that he sees it as shocking and that it should be removed immediately! This whole thing is absolut insanity!!! |
I wonder if they really contact them. I think however with the second apology coming out so quickly I believe they did and are just a little worried.
I say let's get the boycott going and bring down the price. |
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PhredE ALIPAC Super Hero


Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 8668 Location: Oregon (pronounced "ore-ee-gun")
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:31 am Post subject: |
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The change of ownership does present a rather strange and ironic twist to all this...
I think in terms of chasing the 'chain of responsibility' that proportionate blame should flow as follows:
1. Local Ad group in Mexico City (GrupoGallegos?, right?)
2. V&S Corporate in Sweden
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Pernod Ricard - Actually, since there are lots of bureaucratic hurdles in multinational business transactions (and a big time lag as a necessary result), they have essentially 0 responsibility in this. If anything, they probably want to show that they are doing the 'right thing' and to distance themselves from V&S and the local Mexico group as much as possible.
IMHO - Punish V&S and the Mexico-based distributors/advertisers, but don't boycott once Pernod Ricard completes the transaction (assuming, of course, they show a pattern of trying to correct these problems as timely and as constructively as is possible). _________________ "If my family wasn’t safe, what makes you think yours will be?"
-Danielle Bologna (whose husband and sons were murdered by felon, gang member, illegal alien, Salvadoran Edwin Ramos) |
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Gogo ALIPAC Super Hero


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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| PhredE wrote: | The change of ownership does present a rather strange and ironic twist to all this...
I think in terms of chasing the 'chain of responsibility' that proportionate blame should flow as follows:
1. Local Ad group in Mexico City (GrupoGallegos?, right?)
2. V&S Corporate in Sweden
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Pernod Ricard - Actually, since there are lots of bureaucratic hurdles in multinational business transactions (and a big time lag as a necessary result), they have essentially 0 responsibility in this. If anything, they probably want to show that they are doing the 'right thing' and to distance themselves from V&S and the local Mexico group as much as possible.
IMHO - Punish V&S and the Mexico-based distributors/advertisers, but don't boycott once Pernod Ricard completes the transaction (assuming, of course, they show a pattern of trying to correct these problems as timely and as constructively as is possible). |
I agree. But they boycott could sure make the price go down. Is V&S public? If so the stock would plummet. |
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April ALIPAC Executive Officer


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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| Gogo wrote: | | April wrote: | | Glad that he sees it as shocking and that it should be removed immediately! This whole thing is absolut insanity!!! |
I wonder if they really contact them. I think however with the second apology coming out so quickly I believe they did and are just a little worried.
I say let's get the boycott going and bring down the price. |
ABSOLUTELY!!!!! _________________
Running FULL FORCE AGAINST AMNESTY for ILLEGALS!!!! |
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PhredE ALIPAC Super Hero


Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 8668 Location: Oregon (pronounced "ore-ee-gun")
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Gogo - Don't know about the stock situation (we could look that up in a bit)...but, they were "privately owned" by the Swedish government prior to the sale.
The finalization of the sale will take another 3 months or so at the least, so there is a time window between now and when full control/ownership takes place for Pernod. I think it's great to push the price down in the meantime - if it'll punish V&S and not necessarily hurt Pernod Ricard. _________________ "If my family wasn’t safe, what makes you think yours will be?"
-Danielle Bologna (whose husband and sons were murdered by felon, gang member, illegal alien, Salvadoran Edwin Ramos) |
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tencz57 ALIPAC Hero Elite


Joined: Jan 25, 2008 Posts: 2439 Location: FL
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:37 am Post subject: |
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V&S did Pernod real dirty imo . Think some heads will roll ? THEY BETTER..
1 more thought . On their stock taking a hit . I don't think so . Why ? Cause someone like George Soro's will back it up imo _________________ Nam vet 1967/1970 Skull & Bones can KMA .Bless our Brothers that gave their all ..It also gives me the right to Vote for Chuck Baldwin 2008 POTUS . NOW or never
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miguelina ALIPAC Super Hero


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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| tencz57 wrote: | V&S did Pernod real dirty imo . Think some heads will roll ? THEY BETTER..
1 more thought . On their stock taking a hit . I don't think so . Why ? Cause someone like George Soro's will back it up imo |
He keeps giving it away, he's bound to run out of it.  |
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Melissa ALIPAC Activist 2


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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: |
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I think we've got to boycott even if there are new owners to let other companies know its not okay to do that kind of anti-American advertising. If the French company really cared then they would back out of the deal due to the tarished image it now has (I would).
I think Absolut should show they are not anti-American by sponsoring an Alipac rally or event. Companies sponsor La Raza all the time - it's time they start sponsoring pro-American groups. |
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Bowman ALIPAC Super Hero


Joined: Mar 19, 2006 Posts: 5785 Location: Mexifornia
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Actually Pernod could back out of the deal over this if they wanted to, since it will cause V&S to be worth a lot less than what was originally estimated.
Also notice Pernod calls the ad "shocking", why doesn't Absolut say that in their "apologies"? |
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April ALIPAC Executive Officer


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Melissa ALIPAC Activist 2


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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Gogo,
What is the email address for Pernod Ricarad, the French Company that will be acquiring Absolut? I want to send them an email and tell them not to buy the company. Wouldn't that be great if they did that? That would really send a message! |
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Gogo ALIPAC Super Hero


Joined: May 18, 2007 Posts: 10306 Location: Alipacers Come In All Colors
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Melissa wrote: | Gogo,
What is the email address for Pernod Ricarad, the French Company that will be acquiring Absolut? I want to send them an email and tell them not to buy the company. Wouldn't that be great if they did that? That would really send a message! |
I'll try and find it. It was in one of the other threads. It was the investors relations email that I used. |
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tencz57 ALIPAC Hero Elite


Joined: Jan 25, 2008 Posts: 2439 Location: FL
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Melissa wrote: | Gogo,
What is the email address for Pernod Ricarad, the French Company that will be acquiring Absolut? I want to send them an email and tell them not to buy the company. Wouldn't that be great if they did that? That would really send a message! |
That is a great idea . I think i'll do the same . You can find the e-mail addy on the boycott site _________________ Nam vet 1967/1970 Skull & Bones can KMA .Bless our Brothers that gave their all ..It also gives me the right to Vote for Chuck Baldwin 2008 POTUS . NOW or never
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Gogo ALIPAC Super Hero


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ArticleIV ALIPAC Titan


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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| They have Jamesons in their product line. It will be a sad day for me to let that one go, but if they close the sale, I am out. What a bummer, but God, Family, and Country come first!! |
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ArticleIV ALIPAC Titan


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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Melissa wrote: | I think we've got to boycott even if there are new owners to let other companies know its not okay to do that kind of anti-American advertising. If the French company really cared then they would back out of the deal due to the tarished image it now has (I would).
I think Absolut should show they are not anti-American by sponsoring an Alipac rally or event. Companies sponsor La Raza all the time - it's time they start sponsoring pro-American groups. |
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Melissa ALIPAC Activist 2


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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Here is my email to the French company that is buying Absolut. Please send an email also!
Dear Sirs and Madams,
We, in America, think Absolut sucks and I would recommend that you back out of the deal of buying the company while you still can. I know you don't own the company yet but you would have to make BIG amends to the American public before we'll buy the Absolut products again. Can you imagine if England ran an ad implying that half of France actually belonged to England? How would you feel?
There is already a website boycotting the Absolut products with over 100 organizations backing the boycott http://www.boycottabsolut.com/
Again, if I were in your shoes I'd back out of the deal as you are getting into a really sticky situation. |
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ArticleIV ALIPAC Titan


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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| That was really nice Melissa!! Kudos to you! |
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ArticleIV ALIPAC Titan


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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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My letter to them....
To whom it may concern,
I am not an investor in your company nor am I a patron of Absolut products. However, I absolutely admire what your company has done with itself and as a capitolist and investor residing in the United States I can find great appreciation with what you have accomplished.
I am a huge Jameson fan and find this beverage to be on your product line. I am only one customer, but I must tell you that if your company closes the deal with Absolut that I will not drink your products again. I am very very disheartened by the Aztlan map used in an advertisement to sell Absolut to Mexcan residents. That was not a map of the era in the early 1800's. The countries listed on it do not coincide with that time in history.
No matter what excuse Absolut uses, their blatant attempt to pander to the Reconquistas was a political statement.
Sincerely,
A Jamesons Fan!! |
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Gogo ALIPAC Super Hero


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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Nice respectful letter. |
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AirborneSapper7 ALIPAC Super Hero


Joined: May 28, 2007 Posts: 27369 Location: South West Florida (Behind friendly lines but still in Occupied Territory)
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for your email.
We appreciate that you contact us to share your opinion. At ABSOLUT we are used to active reactions to our advertising, and we want our consumers to share their opinion - positive or negative. We have a policy to always reply to all emails individually, but due to the large amount of emails concerning the In an ABSOLUT World Mexico ad, we are unfortunately not able to answer all emails individually at this moment.
We acknowledge the reactions and debate and want to apologize for the concerns this ad caused. We are truly sorry and understand that the ad has offended many persons. This was not our intention.
The ad has been withdrawn as of Friday April 4th and will not be used in the future.
In no way was the ad meant to offend or disparage, or advocate an al! tering of borders, lend support to any anti-American sentiment, or to reflect immigration issues.
To ensure that we avoid future similar mistakes, we are adjusting our internal advertising approval process for ads that are developed in local markets.
Again, we are very sorry that we cannot reply to your email, if you want to continue the discussion and share your opinion with us and others, please go to our blog www.absolut.com/iaaw/blog
Our sincere apologies,
Paula Eriksson
VP, Corporate Communication
On behalf of;
V & S Absolut Spirits _________________ I'm a Conservative ~ "BOO" and According to Obama and Napolitano I am (AKA) the "Boogieman" |
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Gogo ALIPAC Super Hero


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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Well V & S is behind the 8 ball right now. I got this from Pernod Ricard this morning:
Dear xxxxxxx,
This new message is the official message of Pernod Ricard I should have sent to your email :
We have received several messages from American consumers regarding an Absolut advertisement published in Mexico showing a map with altered American and Mexican borders.
Pernod Ricard is not yet the owner of Absolut and has no involvement in the management of the brand. The acquisition is expected to close during the summer 2008.
Nevertheless, we understand that this advertisement has caused offence and we have passed your comments on to V&S, the Swedish owner of Absolut. They have informed us that the advertisement in question was withdrawn on 4th April and will not be used again.
Please rest assured that your comments are valuable to us and we have taken them on board. Pernod Ricard has a strict internal code of ethics which all our advertisements are checked against.
As soon as Pernod Ricard becomes responsible for Absolut we will integrate its advertising into our approval system to ensure that such matters are arrested prior to causing any offence.
Kind regards
And this was my reply:
Thank you for your timely reply. I feel reassured that Pernod Ricard holds to a higher standard of advertising than V&S.
I will say however, that an official boycott of V & S products was launched yesterday in the US and until Pernod Ricard takes the business over, I will participate in the boycott and ask others to do so. Unfortunately for Pernod Ricard you have been caught in a very untenable position right now. Thank you for contacting Absolut and telling them of your concern. |
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