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    TX-Harlingen veteran joins ACLU lawsuit,passport denial

    Harlingen veteran joins ACLU lawsuit over midwives and passport denial
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    September 14, 2008 - 10:49PM
    David Hernandez's story could hardly be more all-American.

    He's the grandson of a U.S. citizen and a veteran of the U.S. Army. He grew up in a Harlingen home where American flags and Van Halen banners were given equal wall space.

    But because he was delivered by a midwife in South Texas, the government is now denying Hernandez a passport, claiming that his birth certificate might have been fraudulently provided.

    Hernandez is one of thousands of Texans now being denied passports because of the State Department's suspicions. But his case is unique, exposing the disjunction between federal agencies.

    How is it possible, Hernandez wants to know, that he was able to enlist in the military and serve overseas only to return to the United States and be told that he is not a U.S. citizen?

    "It's a sad day in America for me," he said. "I served in the military, I pledged allegiance all my life. And now I can't get a passport because of where and how I was born."

    Hernandez is now one of nine plaintiffs in a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union against the federal government. Though it pained him to take legal action against the country for which he served, he felt he had no option.

    "This isn't just about me," he said through tears. "This is about all of the other U.S. citizens who can't get their passports. I decided I had to step up."

    In 1985, when Hernandez was 21, he went to an Army recruiting office in Harlingen. He handed over his birth certificate and completed a physical exam. He waited until his enlistment was official before telling his mother.

    "I joined because I love my country," he said. "I wanted to give back a little of what it had given to me."

    A few months later, he was in Fort Sill, Okla. for basic training. From there, he shipped off to Germany, where he served on a U.S. Army base for two years.

    Army recruiters never questioned Hernandez's citizenship. His birth certificate was all they needed to see.

    "If someone had proof of citizenship that looked legitimate and was issued by the proper authority, we would have accepted it," said Douglas Smith, a spokesman for U.S. Army Recruiting Command Head-quarters in Fort Knox, Ky. "If something seemed questionable, we probably would have dug further."

    But 23 years later, the State Department is second guessing the legitimacy of Hernandez's birth certificate.

    "Because of a history of fraudulently filed reports on the Southwest border, we don't have much faith in the (midwife-granted) document," Cy Ferenchak, a spokesman for the U.S. Bureau of Consular Affairs, told The Brownsville Herald in July.

    Hernandez isn't the only veteran affected by the policy. U.S. Rep. Solomon P. Ortiz, D-Corpus Christi, has received letters from a number of veterans who are being denied passports.

    "This is a problem that is being seen in cities all across the Texas border," Ortiz said on Thursday. "Some of these tax-paying people served in the military or were law enforcement officials and every consideration should be made on their behalf."

    The ACLU lawsuit highlights the conflicting federal policies plaguing David Hernandez. Like many other border residents, he says, he is American-enough for one federal agency, but not for another.

    "It's terrible feeling. Like I've been trampled underfoot."

    Now Hernandez is navigating the gray area, hoping to find a solution before the government requires a passport for all cross-border travel.

    He already sent a copy of his Honorable Discharge Certificate to the U.S. Passport Center. He wonders what additional evidence he can provide.

    The photo of the young man in military fatigues smiling in front of an American flag?

    A snapshot of the long-haired guitarist performing at Harlingen High School?

    Hernandez's photo album is full of such quintessentially American images.

    "What else can I show them?" he asks. "What else do they need to see?"

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    What this article doesn't tell you is that "at least 75 South Texas midwives have been convicted of fraud since the 1960s."

    For almost 50 years, they have been issueing fake birth records.

    Mr. Hernandez was born in 1964 and years later they catch the midwife that could have issued his birth record and possibly even after he served in the military. Has his midwife been caught producing fake records?

    Can his mother prove that she was in the country legally at the time of his birth? If not, then there is nothing more to conclude than he is really an illegal alien.

    Illegal aliens will do anything they think will legitimize them in the eyes of US immigration Svc. Millitary service would be one big prize and a gateway for terrorist.

    Dishonesty is costly, when you get caught.

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    Bad conduct by others often spoils life for good people.
    "Men of low degree are vanity, Men of high degree are a lie. " David
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    "It's terrible feeling. Like I've been trampled underfoot."
    Well we Americans certainly know that feeling!!!!!

    Sorry, no sympathy here!!!! Go home!!
    Please help save America for our children and grandchildren... they are counting on us. THEY DESERVE the goodness of AMERICA not to be given to those who are stealing our children's future! ... and a congress who works for THEM!
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    This kinda smacks.

    I have seen instances where the citizens were clamboring for the government to do something and the government goes out and finds the least egregrious transgressor imaginaeable and punishes them. - Right after they alert every news organization.

    They do this kind of thing so everyone will get all misty eyed and demand that the laws not be enforced.

    I remember after 9/11, when people were saying we need to send home those here illegally. One of the cases that made the news was an English lady, whose husband was killed in the towers who had not gotten 'her papers in order'.

    She certainly should have them in order, and I didn't mind her being sent home, but when you think of the millions of other illegals they didn't even consider ----------
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    nntrixie,

    Your right, they will make a loop hole for a few token illegals and they will all push through it.

    What's the exceptional illegal to the criminal illegal ratio?

    No means no. Not, but you let them in...

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't births registered with the STATE?!?! Meaning when a child is born, that information is given to the state, by hospitals or midwives, and then a birth certificate is issued by the STATE?

    Stands to reason if the STATE never received birth information, that means you were NOT born in the state, right?
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    Yes, it is supposed to be, however, sometimes it doesn't get done.

    Actually, when my daughter was born, 1974, the hospital was supposed to get it registered. You pay the fee to the hospital.

    They neglected to do that and we didn't catch it until she needed it to register for school.

    It costs more, not a lot though, to register a delayed birth certificate. I was just upset enough, I hounded the hospital and made them jump through the hoops to get it registered and pay the extra cost.

    Also, I'm thinking in the case of a midwive it might never have gotten done.

    It is, or was, possible to get a birth certificate based on others 'testifying' that you were actually born, etc. My Mother had to do that. I don't know if that is true now or not.


    I don't have an opinion in this case, except I think the media is going to use it for all it's worth - a veteran and all that.
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