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    Will Alan Gura be helping progressives with 2nd Amend. case?

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    Alan Gura is working feverishly to have the 2nd Amendment applied to the States, ostensibly to protect the people’s right to keep and bear arms. It is said that the 2nd Amendment is useless unless it is applied to the States. But I for one believe our founding fathers would have strenuously disagreed with that notion, especially since the first ten amendments of our federal Constitution, which includes the 2nd Amendment, was specifically intended by the founders to restrict the newly created federal government and was not intended to create a legal path for the federal government to enter the States and impose its will upon the people under the pretext of enforcing the federal “Bill of Rightsâ€

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    Excellent Article!
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    Is Alan Gura a wolf in sheep’s clothing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbstard
    Excellent Article!
    The question is, Is Alan Gura a wolf in sheep’s clothing?



    Keep in mind that the people, in a number of states having placed the right to keep and bear arms in their State Constitutions to restrict their state government from infringing upon this right, they went on to place this same restriction on the federal government by the adoption of the first ten amendments to our federal Constitution, the Second Amendment intended to prohibit the federal government from using its force to enter the states and infringing upon the right to keep and bear arms.

    It should also be noted that one of the first ten amendments added to our federal Constitution, the Tenth Amendment, specifically announced and declared the preservation of federalism, our Constitution’s plan, intended to protect the right of the people, in each of the various states, to be in charge of determining their own destiny within their own State’s borders in matters which affected the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State as was mentioned in Federalist No. 45. In fact, the Tenth Amendment gave constitutional force and effect to the intentions expressed in Federalist No. 45!

    “The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected.

    The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.


    Question is, why does Alan Gura work so feverishly to accomplish the “progressive’s goalâ€

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    Is Alan Gura helping gun grabbers with 2nd Amendment case?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbstard
    Excellent Article!

    I can assure you if federal judges are allowed to enter the states to enforce the 2nd Amendment upon the States as was done with other federal bill of rights amendments, the right to keep and bear arms will be regulated into extinction just as that right is now a meaningless right in the District of Columbia even though the 2nd Amendment is applicable there and in spite of the Heller decision. Try to get a gun registered in the District and you will soon see what can be expected in every state in the Union if Gura gets his way and will be upheld and enforced by federal judges who will make the assertion such regulations are necessary and proper for the general welfare and safety of the people.

    Gura is playing the same game Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg played in the 1970’s to undermine State authority when she volunteered for the ACLU and used the 14th Amendment to allow federal judges to enter the States to impose her social justice and social reforms upon the people of every State in the Union.

    Alan Gura is a progressive wolf in sheep’s clothing and working to subvert federalism, our Constitution’s plan, just like Ginsburg, so those States which now protect the right to keep and bear arms including Texas, will be subject to the progressive and gun grabbing arm of the federal government!

    Those who believe the federal government ought to be in charge of their right to keep and bear arms would have been laughed out of the Constitutional Convention of 1787. But heck, seems as though the nanny state mentality has even spread its infectious disease into the minds of those who correctly support and defend the fundamental right to keep and bear arms. How sad!


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    “The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected.

    The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. “
    ____ Federalist No. 45

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    Federal Hate Crimes? Where is the constitutional authority?

    Did anyone here see the following?

    SEE: Social Conservatives Mount Last-Ditch Effort to Stop Hate Crimes Bill


    But the real question is, under what constitutional authority does Congress act to make it a federal crime to assault people because of their sexual orientation?

    What article, section, clause or amendment have the American people adopted in the federal Constitution to allow federal prosecutors for the first time to intervene in cases of violence perpetrated against gays.?

    Seems to me the Tenth Amendment prohibits the federal government from sticking its nose in such matters. But I could be wrong and will anxiously await some answers. I suspect the progressives are on the move once again with the 14th Amendment incorporation myth.

    I wonder if Alan Gura who alleges the 14th Amendment makes the 2nd Amendment enforceable upon the States will also defend the hate crimes bill, alleging that the 14th Amendment also gives Congress the power to adopt the hate crimes bill..


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