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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Release: Huckabee Campaigner and Minuteman threatening e-mai Reply with quote

Huckabee Campaigner and Minuteman threatening e-mail Scandal

January 3, 2008

CONTACT: Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, press@alipac.us, (866) 329-3999

The Huckabee campaign faces national scandal today, as recent e-mails sent by Minuteman Co-Founder and Huckabee campaign member Jim Gilchrist are released that threaten to malign another leader with false accusations of child molestation, pedophilia, embezzlement, and thievery!

The e-mail threat was received by Brook Young of the organization Immigration Watchdog, who is one of the 84 leaders who signed an open letter opposing the Gilchrist endorsement of Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee.

Jim Gilchrist has endorsed Mike Huckabee and has been traveling on the Huckabee campaign media bus across Iowa making speeches of support at Huckabee's side, at campaign press conferences and events. Gilchrist has also been on numerous talk radio shows promoting the Huckabee campaign as a highly visible part of the campaign in the national media.

"It is completely outrageous that a person so highly involved with the Huckabee campaign is sending e-mails threatening to malign an opposing organization leader with false accusations of child molestation," says William Gheen of ALIPAC. "Huckabee and Gilchrist need to explain why a Presidential campaign is involved in these kinds of documented threats and vile mud slinging."

The e-mail from Gilchrist, which threatens to malign Brook Young is on full display at ImmigrationWatchdog.com and ALIPAC.us

http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=5482

Mr. Gilchrist also sent out an "article" or press release to the Minuteman Project national e-mail list last night that contains many supposed quotes by Mike Huckabee that appear to answer all criticisms of the Huckabee immigration plan and record. The author is listed as "Perry Emerson, for Jim Gilchrist" yet initial research can find no proof that a Perry Emerson works for Jim Gilchrist or the Minuteman Project. The name only shows up on articles released by Minuteman Project, which contain topics that are attacks on others.

Google searches on the alleged quotes by Mike Huckabee, such as "I would make it my first act as president to pardon agents Ramos and Compean" show no results other than the Gilchrist release. The Huckabee campaign can provide no written evidence that Huckabee made these comments.

Copy of Gilchrist Release
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-96732.html

"Official campaign statements on important matters like immigration should be made directly by the campaign and not by proxy," says William Gheen. "We will continue to look for evidence that Perry Emerson actually exists. If Mr. Gilchrist is putting out official statements under a false name and citing statements Huckabee did not make, then 'Houston we have a problem.'"

ALIPAC is calling on the Huckabee campaign to officially confirm or deny the authenticity of the claims made in the Minuteman Project release and to clarify if Mr. Gilchrist is acting on behalf of the Huckabee campaign in his threats to spread false rumors of a graphic nature about organizations that oppose the Presidential campaign of Mike Huckabee.

William Gheen has notified ALIPAC activists and allied leaders about this situation through a letter titled, "The Madness of Jim Gilchrist" which is also found at www.alipac.us

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sent to:

Michelle Malkin
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Lets hope some of the sites post this story.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW! I AM SENDING THIS OUT NOW!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:25 pm    Post subject: Huge Problem Reply with quote

The problem with people like Gilchrist is that they give people the impression that opponents of illegal immigrants are wacky. People distance themselves from the movement so as not to be affiliated with the wackos.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Huge Problem Reply with quote

ymeoru wrote:
The problem with people like Gilchrist is that they give people the impression that opponents of illegal immigrants are wacky. People distance themselves form the movement so as not to be affiliated with the wackos.


yup
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Huge Problem Reply with quote

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The problem with people like Gilchrist is that they give people the impression that opponents of illegal immigrants are wacky. People distance themselves form the movement so as not to be affiliated with the wackos.


yup


I agree. It has been a long time however, that I feel like Jim has done anything for our cause. I am glad his true character is finally coming to light, I just hope the public hears about it, and that it really impacts Huckabees campaign as it should!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Find Out About Gilchrist Reply with quote

I don't want them to find out Gilchrist is a nut. To supporters and fence sitters, Gilchrist is synonymous with minutemen, the minutemen project is connected to illegal immigration, and we're definitely tied to illegal immigration.

Anything that makes Jim look bad UNFORTUNATELY makes us look bad. Don't believe they'll separate him from us. They won't. Why do you think its so easy for them to convince the world that we're racists. Because every blue moon, they can find ONE opponent of illegal immigration that actually is a racist. And, its bad for the cause.

If I had a vote I'd say avoid JIM like the plague, but bring ABSOLUTELY no attention to his nuttiness and hope he fades like a bad dream.

There's a reason people put the crazy aunt in the attic. They didn't want anyone to see her because everyone who did KNEW she was part of the family.

Like him or hate him...he's part of the family. He's just the part you try to keep quiet.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Better Approach Reply with quote

I think a better approach for handling JIM is, "Well, we like ole Jim. We just disagree on a few issues. We think his approval of Huckabee was a bit premature, and we simply want to take a closer look at what all the candidates have to offer." While thinking, "Now, Jim knows 'good and well' Huckabee's touchback policy is not the direction we would like to see."

You actually do want candidates to want opponents of illegal immigration. Jim's problem was that he played too easy to get. If he was female, he'd be pregnant by now.

We have to 1) have something to offer (sane, but prominent voters) and 2) be too valuable to lose.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: At the moment Reply with quote

At the moment, opponents of illegal immigration give the image of being the crazy aunt, and supporters (who are clearly crazy) look reasonable.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too bad Gilchrist not charged and arrested on national tv today--now that would make an impression and get publicity like nothing else!

Huckabee must have offered Gilchrist head of Homeland Security or something.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Find Out About Gilchrist Reply with quote

ymeoru wrote:
I don't want them to find out Gilchrist is a nut. To supporters and fence sitters, Gilchrist is synonymous with minutemen, the minutemen project is connected to illegal immigration, and we're definitely tied to illegal immigration.

Anything that makes Jim look bad UNFORTUNATELY makes us look bad. Don't believe they'll separate him from us. They won't. Why do you think its so easy for them to convince the world that we're racists. Because every blue moon, they can find ONE opponent of illegal immigration that actually is a racist. And, its bad for the cause.

If I had a vote I'd say avoid JIM like the plague, but bring ABSOLUTELY no attention to his nuttiness and hope he fades like a bad dream.

There's a reason people put the crazy aunt in the attic. They didn't want anyone to see her because everyone who did KNEW she was part of the family.

Like him or hate him...he's part of the family. He's just the part you try to keep quiet.


We tried that strategy for over a year and it did not work. Gilchrist has thrust his problems out on the national table and now we have to deal with it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree W. Jim isn't "the" movement nor does he speak for it. He is just a little man with a big ego. We need to expose him for what he is in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Find Out About Gilchrist Reply with quote

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ymeoru wrote:
I don't want them to find out Gilchrist is a nut. To supporters and fence sitters, Gilchrist is synonymous with minutemen, the minutemen project is connected to illegal immigration, and we're definitely tied to illegal immigration.

Anything that makes Jim look bad UNFORTUNATELY makes us look bad. Don't believe they'll separate him from us. They won't. Why do you think its so easy for them to convince the world that we're racists. Because every blue moon, they can find ONE opponent of illegal immigration that actually is a racist. And, its bad for the cause.

If I had a vote I'd say avoid JIM like the plague, but bring ABSOLUTELY no attention to his nuttiness and hope he fades like a bad dream.

There's a reason people put the crazy aunt in the attic. They didn't want anyone to see her because everyone who did KNEW she was part of the family.

Like him or hate him...he's part of the family. He's just the part you try to keep quiet.


We tried that strategy for over a year and it did not work. Gilchrist has thrust his problems out on the national table and now we have to deal with it.

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Man, I hate that. The crazy aunt's out on the loose.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gilchrist panicked as he became irrevelant in the movement as leaders and groups simply ignored him hoping he would just fade away. Gilchrist, the atention loving egomaniac, sensed this and as soon as the huckster payed him any attention, he parlayed it into the only shot he had at the national spotlight again. To feed his ego he has opened the movement to intense criticism fromm every libidot, open borders advocate and fence sitter in the country.

The one karma happenstance that is likely to play out of this...if huckabee does go on to get the Republican nomination, I think he will throw out Gilchrist like a piece of trash as soon as Gilchrist and his mental issues get some light by the MSM. At that time, he would be negative baggage for the huckster.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:50 am    Post subject: Perry Emerson Reply with quote

I do not know if Perry Emerson is a real person or a pseudonym. I found him on 2 sites;

http://lonestartimes.com/2007/09/27/a-tale-of-two-speeches/#comment-203683

http://www.minutemanproject(DOT)com/newsmanager/templates/mmp.asp?articleid=143&zoneid=1
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Sticks and stones will break my bones, but... Reply with quote

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The problem with people like Gilchrist is that they give people the impression that opponents of illegal immigrants are wacky. People distance themselves from the movement so as not to be affiliated with the wackos.
Yes, I'm a "wacko" and proud of it. I've been wacky ever since the first pair of illegal aliens walked up to me in the dark, maybe six feet away, before they saw me and took off. That'll do a change in your soul, let me tell you.

Another name added to the "spite-malice" list.

vigilantes (Pres. Bush, April, 2005)

racists

right-wing nutcases

other-nationality-intolerant (the unforgivable sin)

xenophobes, and xenophobic immigrant-bashers

regressionists living in the past

hunters of men, with scopes and long rifles

troublemakers for the Border Patrol

English-only exclusivists

bigots (Sen. Lindsey Graham to La Raza, 2007)

anti-immigrants

long rifle snipers

mean-spirited nativists

isolationists

hate mongers

Ku Klux Klan

white supremacists

terrorists

hunters of hate (Jorge Ramos, Mexican fifth columnist / journalist in the U.S.)

and now, wacko.


I wear them like combat medals, with pride and honor.

All that, just for doing border watches on private property and reporting trespassers to the Border Patrol.

"Blessed are you when men shall persecute you and revile you and say all manner of evil against you falsely,
for your country's sake. For so they persecuted the patriots who were before you."

Yet to be called:
"reactionary"
"retrograde"
'Latino basher"
"gun show redneck"
"jack-booted Nazi"

Bring it on. I'll just add another ribbon row.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MinutemanCDC_SC,

I think he was making the point that Gilchrist comes off wacko, not that any or the vast majority of Minutemen are.

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