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    Carpentersville: Immigration fight spurs exodus (!!)

    Coming from Waukegan I found this very interesting.


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    Immigration fight spurs exodus
    Some Hispanics moving from Carpentersville say the acrimony and anger is forcing them out

    By Ray Quintanilla

    Tribune staff reporter

    August 3, 2007

    The Malik Dollar Store & Muebleria was empty this week, another vacant storefront in a shopping center that was vibrant in the days when Carpentersville was a beacon for veterans in search of suburban housing.

    Gone from the store's ceiling were a dozen pinatas, which had faded to gray in the months that owner Samer Malik struggled to stay afloat. Malik had grumbled that the half-price sales were not enough to attract customers who disappeared during 10 months of furor over illegal immigration that has thrust Carpentersville into an ongoing national debate.

    "Since the immigration discussions began in 2006, his business went downhill," said Frank Scarpelli, manager of the Meadowdale Shopping Center in Carpentersville. "The feeling was that his [Latino] clientele felt uncomfortable conducting business in Carpentersville."

    Struggling businesses are a danger sign in Carpentersville, said Bill Sarto, village president of this community of 37,000 residents, about 40 percent of whom are Latino.

    Sarto fears a controversial proposed ordinance, intended to crack down on undocumented workers by penalizing businesses that hire them and landlords who rent to them, has done more than attract busloads of protesters to Village Hall. Sarto worries the debate is driving residents out of town.

    Ernesto Marcos, 37, a restaurant worker, moved to Crystal Lake in March, after deciding Carpentersville was "not a welcoming place for a Mexican immigrant."

    "I have been trying to find a good community so I could send for my wife and children in Mexico," Marcos said. "I do not want to bring them to Carpentersville. There's too much anger there."

    It isn't necessarily a bad thing if undocumented immigrants are leaving, said Judy Sigwalt, the village trustee leading the push to enforce immigration laws.

    Sigwalt and her allies on the Village Board say they are undeterred by a federal court ruling last month that struck down similar ordinances adopted in Hazleton, Pa., a former mining town that was attempting a crackdown.

    Sigwalt said she and others are reviewing the ruling to determine whether there is a legal way to expand Carpentersville's role in immigration enforcement.

    "The court's ruling does not end this, not at all," Sigwalt said this week. "This is not over."

    The sharp divisions between Sigwalt and Sarto, a retired state auditor, reflect a chasm in the community that seems to grow wider after every raucous Village Board meeting. Both are hunkered down, along with their supporters, for a fight that many believe will shape the community for years to come.

    Sarto, 58, lives in Carpentersville's older East Side, a short distance from where the village was incorporated in 1887. It's where most of the Hispanic residents live as well, many in the small ranch-style homes that sprouted up after World War II and the Korean War for returning veterans.

    The aging Meadowdale Shopping Center, one of the nation's first large indoor-outdoor malls, is just down the street from Sarto's home.

    Sigwalt lives across the Fox River on the newer, more prosperous West Side. Her home is close to the popular Spring Hill Mall, a sprawling complex in Carpentersville and West Dundee. It's been one of the more successful shopping centers in the region since the 1980s.

    Sarto and Sigwalt both agree that the two malls -- one struggling, the other doing well on opposite sides of the river -- are symbols of the community.

    Sarto recalls visiting Meadowdale when he was growing up in Elgin. He now talks about trying to reinvigorate it, maybe even luring a hospital nearby.

    "Latinos have injected new life into the Meadowdale mall and we need that to continue," he said.

    His political vision, he said, was inspired by a chance encounter with U.S. Sen. John F. Kennedy during a presidential campaign swing through the Fox Valley in 1960. He said he hasn't forgotten what Kennedy talked about that day: how to help those struggling to make ends meet.

    Sarto was elected village president in 2005 by 39 votes. Before the immigration controversy put him on center stage, he wasn't all that well known. But he had already showed what critics call his stubborn streak, defying the state's top Democratic leaders in 1990 by launching an unsuccessful, long-shot race for Illinois comptroller.

    Sarto enjoys it when residents stop to ask him questions at the gas station or grocery store. A typical question came from Mike Sarillo, the owner of Village Pizza & Pub, a local restaurant, who wanted to know what was needed to attract news businesses to Carpentersville.

    Sarto sat with Sarillo for nearly an hour at the restaurant, sipping a soft drink as he spelled out his view of Carpenterville's future.

    "We have to use our diversity as an asset," he said.

    Sigwalt, 54, suggests that Sarto's championing of Carpentersville's undocumented residents is intended to further his political career, with an eye, she says, on possibly seeking statewide office again.

    She grew up with seven siblings in a modest single-family home her father had converted into a two-flat on Chicago's Northwest Side.

    In 1973, she married, then gave birth to a son. Nine months later, Sigwalt and her husband separated. She moved in with her mother, an experience that she said "shaped who I am."

    Rather than turn to public assistance -- a criticism she often hurls at the undocumented -- Sigwalt said she got a job at a candy company and was able to get medical insurance for her family. She overcame the stigma of being a single mother and taught herself to do home repairs such as renovating a bathroom in her mom's house, she said.

    She lives now in a two-story home with her second husband, Bud Sigwalt, a diesel truck mechanic. She runs a licensed day-care business from her home and cares for five toddlers.

    Sigwalt said illegal immigration has been an issue for her since at least the 1980s. She lived on the village's East Side at the time, and said she had concerns about crime and code violations, including multiple families living in the same house.

    She has become a bit of a folk hero for those upset about change in Carpentersville.

    "I'm fighting for all of us," she said at a recent meeting. "I want to do what's best for everyone because a lot of illegals should not even be here. They drain our resources."

    Last year, she and fellow trustee Paul Humpfer began talking about illegal immigrants during the Village Board's meetings. Winning converts, the two now have a majority on the six-member board.

    In June, the board adopted a non-binding resolution making English the official language, and that quickly became a hot topic in Latino neighborhoods. The measure stipulates that English is the community's common language.

    Rev. Lorenzo Gonzalez, an associate pastor at the predominantly Latino St. Monica Catholic Church in Carpentersville, said he believes some Spanish-speaking families are leaving, based on conversations with parishioners and the shrinking numbers in the pews.

    "They say it's better to go somewhere else where they can live without being singled out," he said. "I pray for those who are making these good people feel fear."

    Maria Alvarez, 32, a Mexican immigrant who settled in the community seven years ago, has begun talking with her husband about moving away with their four children.

    "What is here for me and my family?" she asked one morning, sitting outside with friends on her block in a quiet subdivision. "I'm beginning to feel they don't want us here."
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    "Gosh I was going to bring my wife and 50 kids here from Mexico but Gosh I think I'll go somewhere else where they will like me" ..........OMG .... I hope he picked up a New Haven map
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    Rev. Lorenzo Gonzalez, an associate pastor at the predominantly Latino St. Monica Catholic Church in Carpentersville, said he believes some Spanish-speaking families are leaving, based on conversations with parishioners and the shrinking numbers in the pews.

    "They say it's better to go somewhere else where they can live without being singled out," he said. "I pray for those who are making these good people feel fear."
    Then expect an answer to your prayer. Just don't expect God to do your bidding reverend.
    We are NOT a nation of immigrants!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaJones
    Rev. Lorenzo Gonzalez, an associate pastor at the predominantly Latino St. Monica Catholic Church in Carpentersville, said he believes some Spanish-speaking families are leaving, based on conversations with parishioners and the shrinking numbers in the pews.

    "They say it's better to go somewhere else where they can live without being singled out," he said.

    Gee, I'm sure they would be totally comfortable in South America or anywhere South of the US border. Hope they have a nice trip.
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    Struggling businesses
    Bull Hockey! Businesses that Cater to Illegal Aliens are Going Out of Business and Rightfully So!

    They shouldn't be in business in the first place, since they are providing goods and services to people that are criminals and should not be here.

    Dollar Store! Full of Crap from China! Close them all down and if illegal aliens are the ones shopping there, then we are eliminating two problems at one time.

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    His political vision, he said, was inspired by a chance encounter with U.S. Sen. John F. Kennedy during a presidential campaign swing through the Fox Valley in 1960. He said he hasn't forgotten what Kennedy talked about that day: how to help those struggling to make ends meet.
    He was talking about American citizens, you boob!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie
    Struggling businesses
    Bull Hockey! Businesses that Cater to Illegal Aliens are Going Out of Business and Rightfully So!

    They shouldn't be in business in the first place, since they are providing goods and services to people that are criminals and should not be here.

    Dollar Store! Full of Crap from China! Close them all down and if illegal aliens are the ones shopping there, then we are eliminating two problems at one time.

    Dixie
    Amen!!!!
    Please help save America for our children and grandchildren... they are counting on us. THEY DESERVE the goodness of AMERICA not to be given to those who are stealing our children's future! ... and a congress who works for THEM!
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    "They say it's better to go somewhere else where they can live without being singled out," he said. "I pray for those who are making these good people feel fear."
    Reverend Gonzalez?

    These 'good people' are criminals! If you want to pray for someone, pray for them to do the right thing by returning to their country and stop leeching off of American taxpayers.

    My prayer is that soon they will ALL feel unwelcome in EVERY area of this country. I will certainly do all I can to assist.

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    I have been trying to find a good community so I could send for my wife and children in Mexico," Marcos said. "I do not want to bring them to Carpentersville. There's too much anger there."
    "Send for" your wife and children in Mexico? Uhm....don't you really mean you want to arrange to have them smuggled over the border illegally?

    Aaaaargh....when I read this stuff it makes smoke come out of my ears. How DARE this guy say he's "sending for" his wife and children. How DARE he so cavalierly act as if it's his right and his choice to live wherever he pleases in the United States and bring his family over illegally to do the same.

    EVERY single community has to be hostile to illegals, so that instead of just moving from town to town or city to city within the U.S., they'll eventually just go back where they came from!!!
    Calderon was absolutely right when he said...."Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico".

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    "What is here for me and my family?" she asked one morning, sitting outside with friends on her block in a quiet subdivision. "I'm beginning to feel they don't want us here."
    DUGH! Come illegally into this country, drain our services, drag all your crime and total disrespect for American citizens and our life and culture...refuse to speak our language......ya....no we don't want you here! Make peoples lives a living hell and people don't want you around........
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