This Is Very Interesting Indeed

[tinybobidaho]

Someone posted this article a week ago and I copied it and sent it to my state Senator, whom I've been working with constantly trying to figure out a way to stem the flow of illegal aliens here in Idaho. Apparently he decided to check this organization out for himself. The second letter is the one he wrote to them, and the last one is their answer.


Border Patrol Vets Release Position Paper on Illegal Aliens

Jim Kouri
September 13, 2007


The National Association of Former Border Patrol Agents recently released their position paper on all aspects of the illegal immigration issue. Over 250 former Border Patrol members of all ranks signed the document, which received scant mention by the mainstream news media.

The position paper addresses amnesty and guest worker programs, securing the US borders, sanctions against employers of illegal aliens, and condemnation of political leaders who subvert and undermine the efforts of the US Border Patrol.

"The nation has made demonstrable mistakes in the past in its efforts to control immigration. Let us, who were there to see them, remind the nation of the outcome and make suggestions for change," said Kent Lundgren, coordinator for the NAFBA.

Their position on illegal immigration begins with a strong border security initiative including what they termed "meaningful processes for screening those who wish to enter [the United States] legally."

"We believe that aliens residing in the United States must be here with the nation's permission or they should leave or be removed," they wrote.

When it comes to any type of amnesty program, the former Border Patrol agents were blunt and succinct: "We absolutely oppose any legislation that would allow aliens to remain in this country who have entered illegally or who have entered legally and remained here illegally."

The agents have little sympathy for employers who violate US immigration and labor laws. They stated that the current laws "presently on the books are adequate tools for the purpose" of enfforcing sanctions on businesses caught employing illegal aliens.

Their use, however, has been "subverted to meaninglessness through political and legal pressure initiated by those who benefit from the presence of illegal aliens."

The former agents believe that a statement of purpose from Congress and "clear direction" from the Departments of Homeland Security and Justice is vital to enforcing these laws.

But the agents are not inflexible. They believe a Guest Worker Program, if limited and tightly controlled would be feasible. However, unlike many political leaders, the agents condemn efforts to allow those aliens living in the US illegally to participate in any guest worker program proposed by Congress.

The ideas and opinions contained in the former Border Patrol Agents' position paper coincides with those of Border agents currently deployed.

For example, the US Border Patrol union, Local 2544, recently endorsed Congressional candidate Randy Graf of Arizona based on his positions regarding border security and illegal aliens.

According to their endorsement statement, "Mr. Graf's opposition to any form of 'amnesty' for illegal aliens who have successfully violated our laws is a powerful statement that rewarding lawbreakers is not the way to discourage further lawlessness."

The failure of the 1986 amnesty is best demonstrated by the fact that we can now reflect on it twenty years later and we see that the illegal immigration problem is much worse they wrote.

"If we are to have any hope of curtailing illegal immigration into this country we must begin enforcing the laws, which includes providing Border Patrol agents with the manpower, tools, equipment, and infrastructure we so desperately need to perform our jobs properly. We believe that without question, Randy Graf understands the problem and is the right person to help see this job through in the United States Congress."

Meanwhile, in an open letter to President George W. Bush, Local 2544 wrote: "We're not buying your amnesty sales pitch down here in the real world. Maybe you can explain to us why we're risking our lives to stop the same people you keep encouraging to come in by the millions with your incessant pro-amnesty speeches ("guest-worker", "earned legalization", etc.)."

Jim Kouri, CPP is currently fifth vice-president of the National Association of Chiefs of Police and he's a staff writer for the New Media Alliance (thenma.org). Kouri also serves as political advisor for Emmy and Golden Globe winning actor Michael Moriarty.

http://www.commonvoice.com/article.asp?colid=7670


From: John Goedde

To: lundgrenke@msn.com

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:02 AM

Subject: NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FORMER BORDER PATROL AGENTS



Sir – I am a State Senator in the State of Idaho and have a constituent who has forwarded several articles to me that quote positions from the above captioned organization. Can you tell me anything about the group such as how long it has been in existence, number of members, etc? I have no problem with your position from what I have read but I want to know that you are a valid organization. Do you have a website? John Goedde, Idaho Senate, District 4


Dear Mr. Goedde,

Indeed we are a bona fide organization. A visit to our website will fill in some of the blanks for you. Please drop by http://www.nafbpo.org.

We are a small group, approximately 200 members at this time. We came together a year ago this month in response to what we saw as a lack of educated response to the amnesty issue. When I say "educated", I mean response by people who have our long-term knowledge of the immigration issues at hand, who have lived it, who know what has worked, what has not, and why. We are all former Border Patrol and INS officers. We number three former Chiefs of the Border Patrol in our membership; two serve on my Board of Directors . . . but the website will explain all that.

Should you wish to have a look at our charter, you will find it behind a hidden link on the badge at the top of the page. No password required; just click the badge. We are not yet incorporated, we've had to build a treasury, first, to pay a lawyer, but we expect to be before the end of the year.

By all means, please feel free to get in touch with us further. Our charter defines an educational mission for us, that we should try to pass along the benefits of our experience to the public and to those charged with forming this nation's policies. Call me at any time you wish.



Thank you for your interest.

Kent Lundgren

Chairman

National Association of Former Border Patrol Officers

(509) 961-7001

p.s. FYI, I don't know where your district is in Idaho, but I have son who is a Border Patrolman in Bonner's Ferry.

[InsaneAsylum]

The views of the Border Patrol vets and their proposed solution to the problem echo my own views. Wonder if Mr. Kouri or some of his members could spend a bit of time here giving us the benefit of their expertise.

If all these (nearly 300) ex border patrol agents feel all that strongly against the illegal invasion, we could assume that those actively serving now are disgusted and demoralized by our government's collusion with Mexico. Makes me feel sorry for them. Must be one of the worst jobs in the country. Neccessary, but not rewarding.

[NOamNASTY]

Bless them, they are trying . I wish we had more help .

I read an artice about the agents on the Canadian border that has plenty of wilderrness and hard terrain has only 76 agents who have thousands of miles to guard .

I also read when two of their radiation beepers went off they were told to stand down . They went off when they were chasing two middle eastern men in a van . Good part is , if they had a radition leak, they probably are not alive to do much damage ,bad part is what about the ones who don't have leaking containers .

[tinybobidaho]

Insane, listed in their letter is the website for the ex border patrolman. I looked into it last night. It's very interesting, and they are trying to do some good stuff. These guys lived it and no one knows the problems on the border like they do, and this government would do well to listen to them.

What I found interesting is that my Senator took the time to check them out. Guess he wanted to know if what I've been sending him is on the level.