Thread: Immigration reform will 'have to wait'

Immigration reform will 'have to wait'
Monday, October 19, 2009
Last updated: Monday October 19, 2009, 6:39 AM
BY ELIZABETH LLORENTE
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Amid growing criticism by immigration advocates that the Obama administration is failing to move forward on its promise of comprehensive immigration reform, U.S. Labor Secretary Hilda Solis on Sunday said the president plans to have new laws in place by next year.

"First, we have to pass health care reform," Solis said during an interview in North Bergen, where she appeared at a brunch for Latina leaders to rally support for the reelection of Governor Corzine. "It's important to our success as a party to pass health care reform."

Then the administration would be able to push for immigration reform on stronger political footing, Solis said.

Many immigration advocates have assailed the administration for appearing to table — for the moment, at least — promised plans to reform immigration in a way that would improve enforcement while at the same time provide some of the nation's 12 million undocumented immigrants with a path to legalization.

At the same time, those who favor strict immigration enforcement criticize the administration for not doing enough to enforce immigration laws already in place. Proponents of strict immigration enforcement also disapprove of plans to legalize people who are here illegally, saying it amounts to an amnesty and would encourage more people to enter the United States illegally.

Solis said providing a path to legalization would help bring people "out of the shadows," as well as be a boost to the economy. She said they would have to earn legalization by learning English, perhaps paying a fine and waiting their turn, after those who have gone through the application process the legal way.

"If you bring people out of the shadows, they will pay taxes and we won't lose tax revenues," she said. "Employers will have to pay workers compensation and taxes; this benefits the whole economy."

The Rev. Miguel Rivera, a Ridgefield resident and head of a national Latino clergy group that is calling for illegal immigrants to boycott the 2010 census if there is no immigration reform by early next year, balked when told of Solis' comments.

"Baloney," he said. "Obama made many promises to the community, but he has not put any political capital that we can see into putting immigration reform in motion. The Hispanic community will remember this in next year's elections."

Amid growing criticism by immigration advocates that the Obama administration is failing to move forward on its promise of comprehensive immigration reform, U.S. Labor Secretary Hilda Solis on Sunday said the president plans to have new laws in place by next year.

"First, we have to pass health care reform," Solis said during an interview in North Bergen, where she appeared at a brunch for Latina leaders to rally support for the reelection of Governor Corzine. "It's important to our success as a party to pass health care reform."

Then the administration would be able to push for immigration reform on stronger political footing, Solis said.

Many immigration advocates have assailed the administration for appearing to table — for the moment, at least — promised plans to reform immigration in a way that would improve enforcement while at the same time provide some of the nation's 12 million undocumented immigrants with a path to legalization.

At the same time, those who favor strict immigration enforcement criticize the administration for not doing enough to enforce immigration laws already in place. Proponents of strict immigration enforcement also disapprove of plans to legalize people who are here illegally, saying it amounts to an amnesty and would encourage more people to enter the United States illegally.

Solis said providing a path to legalization would help bring people "out of the shadows," as well as be a boost to the economy. She said they would have to earn legalization by learning English, perhaps paying a fine and waiting their turn, after those who have gone through the application process the legal way.

"If you bring people out of the shadows, they will pay taxes and we won't lose tax revenues," she said. "Employers will have to pay workers compensation and taxes; this benefits the whole economy."

The Rev. Miguel Rivera, a Ridgefield resident and head of a national Latino clergy group that is calling for illegal immigrants to boycott the 2010 census if there is no immigration reform by early next year, balked when told of Solis' comments.

"Baloney," he said. "Obama made many promises to the community, but he has not put any political capital that we can see into putting immigration reform in motion. The Hispanic community will remember this in next year's elections."

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"Solis said providing a path to legalization would help bring people "out of the shadows," as well as be a boost to the economy. She said they would have to earn legalization by learning English, perhaps paying a fine and waiting their turn, after those who have gone through the application process the legal way."

They're already "out of the shadows". They're on every street corner in America. They're in every emergency room in America. They're in every school in America. They're in every Walmart in America. They're in every welfare office in America. They're in every pay cash store in America.

""If you bring people out of the shadows, they will pay taxes and we won't lose tax revenues," she said. "Employers will have to pay workers compensation and taxes; this benefits the whole economy.".

They are already "out of the shadows" and the only taxes they're paying is what's taken out of the checks by employers. We don't want their taxes, because we don't want their labor. We want them to leave.

"The Rev. Miguel Rivera, a Ridgefield resident and head of a national Latino clergy group that is calling for illegal immigrants to boycott the 2010 census if there is no immigration reform by early next year, balked when told of Solis' comments. "Baloney," he said. "Obama made many promises to the community, but he has not put any political capital that we can see into putting immigration reform in motion. The Hispanic community will remember this in next year's elections.""

I hope the Hispanic voters do remember, and I hope it they also remember that when you're an American voter, you're an American First which means you stand up for the rights and well-being of your fellow citizens, not illegal aliens who aren't supposed to be here in the first place because their presence hurt the economic well-being of American Workers and American Taxpayers.

illegals have no love or respect for America they just have their hands out.

The taxes they pay will not make even a slight dent in the services, goods and resources they and their extented familes use.

Judy wrote:

They're already "out of the shadows". They're on every street corner in America. They're in every emergency room in America. They're in every school in America. They're in every Walmart in America. They're in every welfare office in America. They're in every pay cash store in America.

Good point, Judy. You're right. I get SO sick of hearing how they're IN the shadows. Not very well hidden in those "shadows" now, are they?

Originally Posted by builditnow

Judy wrote:

They're already "out of the shadows". They're on every street corner in America. They're in every emergency room in America. They're in every school in America. They're in every Walmart in America. They're in every welfare office in America. They're in every pay cash store in America.

Good point, Judy. You're right. I get SO sick of hearing how they're IN the shadows. Not very well hidden in those "shadows" now, are they?

Nope, not in the "shadows" at all. They're out there in wide open space marching against our laws, lobbying our politicians, filling up our jails, running drugs, stealing jobs, raping women, killing people on our highways, deflating wages and lining up at the Food Banks, Toys for Tots, Coats For Kids and anything else they can get their hands on.

They need to gather, pack, gas up and hit the road home to their land of citizenship and work and fight for a better wage and a better life in their own country instead of overpopulating ours.

The Hispanic community will remember this in next year's elections.""

Who the hell are they going to vote for? Like theres not enough race biased bigots for them in office now? :P :P :P :P :P :P
These economic slugs are in a panic , lets keep the pressure on . Amnesty benefits not one hard working American and these bozo's know it .
And if Americans of Hispanic heritage vote Constitutional Conservative/ pro enforcement .
Bye bye illegals and all America benefits .

Right on, airdale!!

I believe all Americans, including Hispanics, are fed up with illegal immigration. Don't you imagine those with relatives in other countries are fed up with their long lost relatives showing up on their doorsteps, moving in and taking over the damn place? I know I would be!!

Wake Up People! All for one and one for all ... Americans, that is.

"If you bring people out of the shadows, they will pay taxes and we won't lose tax revenues," she said. "Employers will have to pay workers compensation and taxes; this benefits the whole economy."

Yea right! I'm sure an illegal invader with a 6th grade education making minimum wage is going to be a windfall of tax dollars. If ever made legal, they will have their hand even deeper in the cookie jar, if that's even possible!

These people come from a corrupt society. If there's away to scam our system, they will certainly figure it out! You think our social and welfare systems are burdened now, just wait until 20 million illegal invaders are made legal, along with the other 40 million that will arrive shortly thereafter through chain migration!

Originally Posted by NoBueno

"If you bring people out of the shadows, they will pay taxes and we won't lose tax revenues," she said. "Employers will have to pay workers compensation and taxes; this benefits the whole economy."

Yea right! I'm sure an illegal invader with a 6th grade education making minimum wage is going to be a windfall of tax dollars. If ever made legal, they will have their hand even deeper in the cookie jar, if that's even possible!

These people come from a corrupt society. If there's away to scam our system, they will certainly figure it out! You think our social and welfare systems are burdened now, just wait until 20 million illegal invaders are made legal, along with the other 40 million that will arrive shortly thereafter through chain migration!

They'll qualify for MediCaid, subsidized housing, WIC, ADC, welfare, disability, food stamps and every other program we underwrite for US citizens and legal permanent residents, including if its ever passed, government subsidized health insurance.

The Hispanic community will remember this in next year's elections.""

Oh yeah, I'll remember. So will my family. So will everyone who had to wait in line, sometimes for decades, to come in legally. Oh and did I mention tens of millions of Americans? Especially the ones who've lost jobs, while illegal aliens still have jobs? Oh how about the taxpayers of NJ who are being royally screwed by leeching illegal aliens?

We'll remember, you betcha!