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    Ben Carson Immigration Reform: Let Undocumented Immigrants Work On Farms

    Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson defended his immigration plan during Wednesday night's Republican debate, but his explanation only got him into further trouble with some voters.

    Carson supports giving guest-worker status to millions of undocumented immigrants without criminal records.

    "After we seal the borders, after we turn off the spigot that dispenses all the goodies...people who had a pristine record we should consider allowing them to become guest workers primarily in

    the agricultural sphere," Carson said. "If they don't do it within that time period then they become illegal and as illegals they will be treated as such," he said.

    Carson said his plan is not amnesty because farmers cannot find American workers, which prompted criticism from some social media users who perceived the remark as suggesting

    immigrants can only do farm work.

    Carson has edged closer to Republican frontrunner Donald Trump in recent weeks. A recent poll found support for Carson has jumped to 23 percent, up significantly from the six percentage points Carson had before

    the first presidential debate in August. That puts Carson at just about 4 points below Trump.

    The former surgeon has seen support surge among conservatives as he has come out as a strong opponent of government funding for the reproductive rights organization, Planned Parenthood, and has taken up

    other conservative causes.

    He is seen as a political outsider given that he had no prior experience in elected office. A recent poll in New Hampshire found that only about a quarter said experience in politics was a "very important political

    consideration," whereas 83 percent said bringing "real change to Washington" was important to them.


    Carson and Trump have clashed in recent weeks as both have brought into question the other’s religious sincerity. Carson has been noted for his considerably calmer demeanor than the flamboyant Trump, who has

    frequently lashed out at his political rivals. Carson has
    come under scrutiny recently after it was revealed he used aborted fetuses for medical research, despite his stance against abortion and Planned Parenthood.

    Ben Carson Immigration Reform: Let Undocumented Immigrants Work On Farms
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    BEN CARSON
    FIRST OF ALL WOULD YOU WORK FOR 4.00 HR I DON'T THINK SO BUT YOUR FRIEND 'S THE UNDOCUMENTED WOULD SURE SO THEY CAN MAIL MONEY BACK HOME SO MORE CAN COME OVER i SEE THIS THIS EVERY DAY YES i WANT TO WORK iM STILL OUT BUT I WANT THE RIGHT PAY IM DON'T WORK CHEAP & i DON'T THINK YOU WOULD .& ANOTHER THING
    WHAT WITH THIS RELIGIOUS? TRUMP IS RUNING FOR PRESIDENT NOT A .PRIEST
    & EVERY time I SEE NEW THEY ASK THE SAME THING HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THIS & THAT NOW WAKE THE HELL UP
    TRUMP WAS IN EVERY STATE & YES HE TELL IT LIKE IT IS & YOU DON'T LIKE THAT

    WE WANT SOME ONE THE WH THAT WILL TELL TH TRUTH *& HE WILL
    WHAT ABOUT THE TUNNEL .OUR GOV & OUR DEAR
    OBAMA NW ALL ABOUT THIS FOR YEAR'S NOT ONE OF YOU DID NOT ONE THING
    NOW TRUMP WANT A WALL GOOD .
    BEN YOU ARE NOT THE PRESIDENT TYPE YOU & THE REST DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR LEFT HAND IS DOING
    HOW COME NO ONE EVER ASK OBAMA WHAT THEY ARE ASKING TRUMP ?

    TRUMP GOOD LUCK

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    There was a graphic break down with % in a post a few weeks back showing they have many more job fields than just farming. Not just construction either but white collar jobs. All the big companies have a large amount of hispanic and indian workers - Comcast etc.. In having an order problem with Amazon.com, my customer service agent was speaking to me from costa rica, they also had illegals delivering packages too. Hate to use Amazon, mega bucks and they use dirty energy sources, cheapest electricity they can find and the web, cloud storage uses a lot of energy.

    [Amazon Web Services], which provides the infrastructure for a significant part of the internet, remains among the dirtiest and least transparent companies in the sector, far behind its major competitors, with zero reporting of its energy or environmental footprint to any source or stakeholder. Twitter lags in many of the same areas.
    Amazon and Twitter each rack up three grades of “F” and one “D” out of four ranking categories. The report calls out Amazon’s data centers in Boardman, Oregon, as an example. Amazon’s power supplier grew so large that it is bound by state law to generate more electricity from renewable sources. The power company financed a ballot-initiative to allow 60-year old dams to be counted among renewable sources and was finally successful earlier this year in gaining a legislative exception allowing it to avoid having to invest in renewable energy sources. Through it all, Amazon sat on its hands according to Greenpeace, “exerting none of its leverage as one of [Umatilla Electric Cooperative’s] biggest customers to pressure the utility to call off its assault on the law.”

    http://247wallst.com/energy-economy/...gest-polluter/

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    Ben Carson retired from years on the Board of Directors of Kellogg Corporation in May of 2015, immediately before he announced his run for President. That's why he always talking about the agricultural jobs for illegal aliens. Kellogg buys a lot of grains, fruits, milk, and other farm items for their products and enjoys the lower prices for their products.

    Read this from their "Corporate Responsibility" section:

    http://crr.kelloggcompany.com/en_US/...d-growers.html

    All nice and healthy talk about sustainability.

    Well, Kellogg, sustainability includes sustainable livelihoods for American Workers. It means paying wages and benefits to American Workers to help grow your lovely products we all enjoy. Buying products from farmers handled by illegal aliens is not sustainable corporate responsibility. It's selling out the American Worker and bankrupting the United States.

    NO MORE KELLOGG PRODUCTS FOR ME, until I see a statement on your website in the corporate responsibility section that guarantees you will not purchase products from any farm in the United States that hires illegal aliens.

    You used to be a great corporation. But when you made Carlos Guiterrez your President, I believe you went all GLOBALIST on US and no longer care about the United States or the American People.

    SHAME ON YOU!!

    I can not think of any other reason why Ben Carson would support illegal aliens or be whining about agricultural jobs UNLESS, he's just a stooge for Kellogg Corporation and is running for President to sign amnesty into law.
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    Ben Carson it's some thing in worse then Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by European Knight View Post
    Ben Carson it's some thing in worse then Obama
    Yes, Ben Carson is worse than Obama. Carson is not only anti-Woman, he's anti-American Worker, anti-American business and if you ask me, has absolutely no understanding or compassion whatsoever for black Americans who are still suffering from racial discrimination and its consequences. Ben Carson may have been a good doctor once, but being a doctor has absolutely nothing to do with being a good President. In fact of almost all the professions from which one could choose a good political leader, in my opinion, the medical community in general would be the last place to look. For example, more than 200,000 Americans die in US hospitals every year from medical malpractice and hospital error. Any wonder the AMA lobbies for "tort reform" to prevent and limit by law the rights of victims to hold them accountable for their mistakes and actions that hurt and kill people? No, no wonder at all. And how do they fight and defend themselves in the few cases that make it to a court room? They lie.

    I think we've had quite enough of that.

    STAY TRUE!!! STAY TRUMP!!!
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    Kellogg is one of many companies involved with GMO food. Unless a product states non-gmo, there could be a gmo ingredient within. Pringles potato chips have been banned in EU for gmo potatoes. Link shows supporters of not labeling gmos by company and amount contributed - Sunny Delight, Kellogg's, Bumble Bee Foods, Bimbo Bakeries, Campbell Soup, Land O'Lakes, Hormel Foods, Dole Packaged Foods, Del Monte Foods and Ocean Spray Cranberries, to name a few, have all joined the anti-labeling coalition to defeat labeling (Kellogg contributed @ half a million and that record is from only a 2012 contribution).

    http://readersupportednews.org/opini...that-hide-gmos

    Some words on gmos:
    The use of pesticides and other chemical additives in non-organic farming yield not only nutritionally deficient—but potentially poisonous produce—that may put you at even higher risk of long-term health problems. The science behind killing weeds with Round Up, which is within the gmo seeds as well as Agent Orange, is basically shutting cells down so they are unable to function causing withering and death: that is what it does to all earthlings - man, creature, plant. Aside being within the plant,
    it is also sprayed on and meant to stay thru a hard driving rain. We are talking huge amounts of this garbage in our air, land and water by runoffs as well as in our foods.
    Now superweeds form, so they spray more toxic pesticides & make even more money as you have to buy it from them.

    An estimated 80% of food crops including corn to tomatoes and alfalfa to sugar beets are now genetically engineered and snuck into much of the processed food we eat. These genetically modified (GMO) crops have had their genetic material altered using complex engineering techniques. Genetically engineered produce has been shown to cause serious health problems to those who consume them. And lack of food labeling regulation makes them even harder to identify in our food supply.

    The first-ever long-term study of the health effects of GMO foods (conducted at the University of Caen in France) shows that a lifelong diet of genetically modified foods may be associated with tumors, organ damage and premature death in lab mice.

    Some of the real consequences of ingesting GMO foods:
    Thousands of goats and sheep died in India after grazing on Bt cotton plants that scientists had modified. Mice produced smaller and fewer offspring after eating GMO corn in long-term toxicity studies. More than half the rat pups died within three weeks when the mother rats were fed GMO soy.

    This past week,

    Senate chokes on Monsanto's poison pill

    This past week the Senate Agriculture Committee held its first hearing on biotechnology in 10 years and what we heard was appalling. Rather than an honest dialogue on the merits and risks of GMOs and the need for new common sense regulations, the Senate Ag committee decided to run a show trial for Monsanto that whitewashed GMOs. For more than three hours, both Senate Republicans and Democrats repeatedly praised GMOs, regurgitating Monsanto talking points, such as the myth of “feeding the world” and that GMOs were perfectly “safe”, while intentionally ignoring the growing number of independent studies that point to real and potential harm from genetically engineered foods.

    Even worse, several Senators and expert witnesses dismissed the recent International Agency for Research on Cancer’s declaration that glyphosate, the main chemical ingredient in Monsanto’s bestselling weedkiller, was linked to cancer in humans.

    Also the hill is with Monsanto- Bride of Frankenfood: Hillary Clinton pushes GMO agenda... hires Monsanto lobbyist... takes huge dollars from Monsanto




    http://www.naturalnews.com/049755_Br..._Monsanto.html
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