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    Columbia Investigating Protests That Stopped Speaker

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    October 6, 2006
    Columbia Investigating Protests That Stopped Speaker
    By MARIA NEWMAN
    Columbia University officials said today they were investigating what happened Thursday night when protesters stormed a stage where the founder of a conservative anti-immigration group was trying to deliver an address, an incident that ended in chairs being overturned, and charges that students violated the speaker’s freedom of speech.

    The incident, at Columbia’s Roone Arledge Auditorium, reflects the strong feelings surround the immigration debate in the United States. It erupted just minutes into a speech by Jim Gilchrist, the founder of the Minuteman Project, a self-appointed band of civilian border patrols that have focused mostly on preventing illegal immigration from Mexico.

    Mr. Gilchrist was invited to speak on campus by the Columbia University College Republicans.

    Just as Mr. Gilchrist was talking about “2,000 Mexicans on the border,” several people holding aloft a banner that read “No One Is Illegal” in several languages, hopped on the stage. Almost instantly, they were joined by a couple of dozen others protesting the speech, according to videotape of the events taken by news agencies and others. From then on, the forum turned into a raucous gathering of young people shouting slogans against Mr. Gilchrist. The audience was on its feet, and eventually college security guards had to close down the event, ushering out about 350 people.

    Organizers told several news agencies that the protesters who rushed the stage had knocked Mr. Gilchrist backward, causing his glasses to break.

    Student protesters told Columbia’s student newspaper, The Spectator, that the demonstration was meant to be peaceful. But they said that changed when the protesters were joined on stage by Republicans organizers of the event and other Gilchrist supporters. “The confrontation turned violent,” the newspaper said, describing the accounts of protesters. “One student was kicked in the head and bleeding.”

    Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg criticized the university today for not keeping better control over a public event.

    In his radio address, he said the protesters were infringing on Mr. Gilchrist’s right to speak.

    “If you get invited, whoever invites you should have the courtesy to let you speak and provide the protection so you can do it, and particularly on university campuses,” Mr. Bloomberg said in response to a question on his weekly radio show.

    Today, university officials said they would investigate. But they restated the university’s commitment to provide a forum for free speech.

    “The freedom to speak, to pursue ideas, and to hear and evaluate viewpoints totally objectionable to one’s own is an essential value of this university, and, indeed, our society,” the university said in a statement. “We defend the right to peaceful protest and expression of opposing views. But it is never acceptable for anyone to physically take to a stage and interrupt a speaker.”

    The Spectator said the protests were organized by the International Socialist Organization, the Chicano Caucus and other groups.

    “We don’t condone the actions of members on either side,” Adhemir Romero, president of the Chicano Caucus, told The Spectator. “Either people on stage who were holding up signs, or people who felt that their speaker was being threatened by people holding signs.”

    But others said they were moved to jump on stage because they disagreed so vehemently with Mr. Gilchrist.

    “We were aware that there was going to be a sign and we were going to occupy the stage,” The Spectator quoted one protester who was on the stage as saying. “I don’t feel like we need to apologize or anything. It was fundamentally a part of free speech. ... The Minutemen are not a legitimate part of the debate on immigration.”

    On its Web site, the Minuteman Project said violent protesters had “stormed the stage and lunged” toward Mr. Gilchrist. “I am dismayed that members of the Columbia University community would resort to violence in an attempt to censor free speech,” Mr. Gilchrist said on the Web site. “This violent outburst is yet another indication that those who support illegal immigration are happy to use communist tactics in their intolerant determination to prevent the Minutemen from exercising their First Amendment rights.”



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    “We were aware that there was going to be a sign and we were going to occupy the stage,” The Spectator quoted one protester who was on the stage as saying. “I don’t feel like we need to apologize or anything. It was fundamentally a part of free speech. ... The Minutemen are not a legitimate part of the debate on immigration.”
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    You got that right sis!

    "The Minutemen are not a legitimate part of the debate on immigration.”
    This is an institute of "higher" education? Is this an example of being enlightened?

    But others said they were moved to jump on stage because they disagreed so vehemently with Mr. Gilchrist.
    As Van Halen would say...Go ahead and jump!
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    Why not simply LOOK at the video tapes and there's your half/assed investigation in a nutshell!! People, faces, actions, VIOLENCE against AMERICANS. What more do you need to conclude your investigation?

    Any of those protestors getting IN- STATE TUITION??? Hmmmmm Bloomy?

    And we paid HARD EARNED American cash to send our kids to the best possible institutes of higher learning-----no help from the US Govt. They're not INSTITUTES OF HIGHER LEARNING
    They are INSTITUTES of MANIPULATION ~ BRAINNUMBING ~ WE ARE THE WORLD ~ TACTICS



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    “We don’t condone the actions of members on either side,” Adhemir Romero, president of the Chicano Caucus, told The Spectator. “Either people on stage who were holding up signs, or people who felt that their speaker was being threatened by people holding signs.”
    Nice try at attempting to shift some of the blame, but I'm not falling for it.

    “We were aware that there was going to be a sign and we were going to occupy the stage,” The Spectator quoted one protester who was on the stage as saying. “I don’t feel like we need to apologize or anything. It was fundamentally a part of free speech. ... The Minutemen are not a legitimate part of the debate on immigration.”
    That is ridiculous, how are the Minutemen not a legitimate part of the debate? The Minutemen are American citizen workers, homeowners, fathers, husbands, wives, sisters, brothers, uncles, etc. They are as valid a part of the debate as anyone, even more so than the illegal immigrants that some people insist on giving a voice to in the debate.

    Personally, I think it's past time that we distinguished between those folks that should have a voice and those that shouldn't. People that wish to exploit the illegal immigrants for financial gain, which include CATHOLIC PRIEST, LABOR UNIONS, ILLEGAL ALIEN HIRING EMPLOYERS, BUSINESS OWNERS THAT DEPEND ON THEIR BUSINESS FOR SURVIVAL, PANDERING POLITICIANS (they may not gain financially, but they gain votes), ETC. should be among those that don't have a voice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW
    That is ridiculous, how are the Minutemen not a legitimate part of the debate? The Minutemen are American citizen workers, homeowners, fathers, husbands, wives, sisters, brothers, uncles, etc.
    Because the Minutemen are the one thing that Latino communists hate the most: White Males. The Latino Commies think that American Whites are "non persons" in the same way that the Nazis thought of Jews as being non-persons. The illegals movement is pure bigotry, hate, and eventually, genocide in action.

    The "reconquista" La Raza group is made up of Latino Nazis, so let's start telling the truth about what they are. It would not suprise me that many of them are on the side of radical Islam in wanting to see Israel (and the US) destroyed.

    They are going to treat the "Gringos" the way the Nazis treated the Jews.

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