40,000 march against Minutemen in Chicago

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40,000 march against Minutemen in Chicago
By Elizabeth Lalasz | July 22, 2005 | Page 15

CHICAGO--About 40,000 people rallied at McKinley Park on the city’s South Side in favor of immigrant rights and in opposition to the Minutemen establishing a chapter in Chicago.

The protest--the largest demonstration in the city in decades--included thousands of immigrants from Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras, Peru, Ecuador, Uruguay and Costa Rica. They chanted at full volume, “¡Si se puede!, ¡Si se puede!� (Yes, we can!; Yes we can!�), holding signs that read, “Minutemen: Human Rights Violators�; “We want recognition as workers: we are not terrorists�; “We demand the right to get work permits� and “Stop Deportations.�

Eliseo Morales, who brought his whole family to the rally said, “We are legal residents. My children were born here and we have no problems with immigration...We are brothers by origin. We come from the same land and share the problems of our race, and so here we are.�

Organized through pro-immigrant organizations like Centro Sin Fronteras and local churches, the demonstration took on a bigger character once Spanish-speaking radio disc jockeys began promoting it. Now organizers are floating the idea of organizing a similar demonstration in front of the White House.

The Minutemen--who mounted highly publicized “border patrols� in Arizona and California in recent months--targeted Chicago because it has the second-largest Mexican immigrant population in the U.S. after Los Angeles. That’s why the demonstration is so significant. As one young Latino participant told Socialist Worker, “It’s the kind of thing you want to see. When you have a good cause, you can bring a lot of people together.�

We have to keep organizing. The day before the rally, the Chicago Tribune, ran an interview with the group’s main organizers, giving them a platform. These racists are planning a future action targeting Wells Fargo, a bank which accepts the matricula consular, a Mexican ID card primarily used by undocumented immigrants. They’re also proposing an “activist boot camp� October 15 to fight “illegal immigration� in Chicago!

We have to build on the momentum of the July 1 protest to let the Minutemen know that they are not welcome here.

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Eliseo Morales, who brought his whole family to the rally said, “We are legal residents. My children were born here and we have no problems with immigration...We are brothers by origin. We come from the same land and share the problems of our race, and so here we are.�

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Citizen Breeders. 40,000--was ICE there? See how easy these people are to find. Just send him a wiff of a Minute Man Project and they roll out in droves. There is no excuse if our federal government didn't use this public display to make arrests and effect deportations of all the illegals in the crowd...which was probably everybody except Morales family and you never know if he was telling the truth.

What so funny is that they think they share the problems of "race". There is that old FAKE RACE thing again. If you are Latino or Mexican, then you are a Caucasian, STUPID!!

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The Minutemen--who mounted highly publicized “border patrols� in Arizona and California in recent months--targeted Chicago because it has the second-largest Mexican immigrant population in the U.S. after Los Angeles. That’s why the demonstration is so significant. As one young Latino participant told Socialist Worker, “It’s the kind of thing you want to see. When you have a good cause, you can bring a lot of people together.�

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Poor things...they don't "get it". Their rally and their "numbers" have now terrified Americans in Chicago and probably done more to mount efforts to deport them than anything WE could have done. Sure....roll on down to DC!! :wink: :wink:

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We have to keep organizing. The day before the rally, the Chicago Tribune, ran an interview with the group’s main organizers, giving them a platform. These racists are planning a future action targeting Wells Fargo, a bank which accepts the matricula consular, a Mexican ID card primarily used by undocumented immigrants. They’re also proposing an “activist boot camp� October 15 to fight “illegal immigration� in Chicago!

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MMP "Targeting Wells Fargo"....LOVE IT. MMP proposing "Activist boot camp?"......BETTER STILL!!!

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We have to build on the momentum of the July 1 protest to let the Minutemen know that they are not welcome here.

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Well....we'll just see who is and is not welcome here, now won't WE? See, they don't "get it". They don't understand anything here. Oh, illegals, just keep on talkin' to those microphones... You're Doing' Our Work For US!!

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40,000 what a lie.

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Yeah, I got that in my email this morning....I wondered as I read...40,000...I'd bet not...maybe 1,000. Probably 300.

And his children were born here? That doesn't make them citizens to me...that makes them children born to foreign parents. We MUST stop allowing them to torture our 14th amendment into something it was NEVER meant to be.

I was pleased to see that at least THEIR protests make the press...ours certainly don't, unless it's something negative. Attention to the problem is all we need...Americans will make up their own minds what's right and what's wrong. Naturally there will be some folks protesting b/c they're professional protesters and care not what the cause might be...they just love to raise hell.

Go Minutemen, go...go ...go...go...stir up this pot. It's already at a rolling boil.

RR

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The protest--the largest demonstration in the city in decades--included thousands of immigrants from Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras, Peru, Ecuador, Uruguay and Costa Rica. They chanted at full volume, “¡Si se puede!, ¡Si se puede!� (Yes, we can!; Yes we can!�), holding signs that read, “Minutemen: Human Rights Violators�; “We want recognition as workers: we are not terrorists�; “We demand the right to get work permits� and “Stop Deportations.�

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Let me break this down. Human rights violators? What rights have they violated? I don't remember one illegal alien harmed during the MMP operations ever. Yet you illegal aliens merely being here is a violation of our sovereignty. You claim that what the MMP is doing is violating human rights? What about the human rights violations caused by the likes of MS-13? Lets talk about that one. You want recognition as workers? Someone please remind these lawbreakers that they are prohibited by law from working in this country in the first place. You say we are not terrorists? Ok, maybe you are or maybe your not, but that still doesn't take away from the fact that your mere presence violates federal immigration laws and you should be immediately deported. This is nonsense that our federal government would allow this invasion to go on. The Mexican government and their unwanted citizens are trampling on our sovereignty. Even Mexico wouldn't put up with this style of invasion. If millions of Guatamelons started pouring over the southern part of the Mexican border then the Mexicans would fight them militarily. Nobody else except maybe pansy Europe and Canada puts up with this. Yet we just keep letting them all in so they can demand more special rights and more tax payer benefits. They are sucking us dry. Time to put a halt to the gravy train, time to turn off the spickett and time to start sending some people back home.

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Eliseo Morales, who brought his whole family to the rally said, “We are legal residents. My children were born here and we have no problems with immigration...We are brothers by origin. We come from the same land and share the problems of our race, and so here we are.�

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What a crock of oops. You don't share the same race or color as I do. Are you kidding me? Yeah I see plenty of white Americans who have a problem joining gangs, dealing drugs, raping women and children, killing mercilessly, living in poverty, being illiterate in our own language, dropping out of school and having babies at an alarming rate, starting race riots, etc. Give me a break. Unlike you illegals, I'm not a burden to my country, unlike you illegals I actually contribute to my society and pay taxes. This country was great once before you illegal alien scumbags started showing up with your Viva La Raza, we're taking over garbage. No you don't come from the same land as us. Not even close. Most Americans come from the European ancestary while most of you illegals come from Latin America/Spanish ancestary. Most Americans have nothing in common with illegal aliens from Latin America and most likely never will. Your children were born here? Can you say anchor babies? I know I can.

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Organized through pro-immigrant organizations like Centro Sin Fronteras and local churches, the demonstration took on a bigger character once Spanish-speaking radio disc jockeys began promoting it. Now organizers are floating the idea of organizing a similar demonstration in front of the White House.

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Pro immigrant my a--. Try pro illegal alien. You want to go to the White House. I'm sure Jorge Bush would welcome you with open arms. He might even have milk and cookies for you inside the Lincoln room. What a joke. 40,000 people. There is really that many illegal aliens residing in Chicago? No wonder that place is a cesspool. Why weren't the feds there to round them up? They claim they don't know where the illegal aliens are. BS. If they don't know where they are then how do they even remotely know how many of them are in the US. They have technology that can spot a warm body inside some remote cave in Pakistan, but they don't know where millions of illegal aliens are in the US? They damn well know where the illegal aliens are, they are right under their noses and they won't do a damn thing about them. If our government was doing their jobs then these vermin wouldn't even be seen in public because they would be too busy heading back down south.

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The Minutemen--who mounted highly publicized “border patrols� in Arizona and California in recent months--targeted Chicago because it has the second-largest Mexican immigrant population in the U.S. after Los Angeles. That’s why the demonstration is so significant. As one young Latino participant told Socialist Worker, “It’s the kind of thing you want to see. When you have a good cause, you can bring a lot of people together.�

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Socialist worker? America are you paying attention? We here all know that illegal immigration is just part of a bigger plot to spread communism throughout America which will eventually equal the destruction of our great nation. We know that most of Latin America is engulfed with communistic regimes. They know that their ideals wouldn't pass muster with the American people so now they are trying to overrun us with millions upon millions of illegal immigrants to get their ideology to become the law of the land. Our country is being invaded and destroyed from the inside out all under the guise of compassion and tolerance. We can no longer allow this to go on if we are to survive as a nation. We can't allow the illegal vermin to press their ideology down our throats. We must band together by an large and drive the illegals out of this country. We must make it clear that they are not welcomed here. Millions must get together to protest (peacefully) in the streets, at the White House and demand that Bush and his cronies enforce our laws to drive the enemy out of this country. That's right, the illegal vermin are the enemy. Mexico is the enemy. Radical Islam is the enemy. We must tell Bush enough is enough and we will no longer put up and accept the lack of enforcement of our laws and we will no longer accept Mexico's meddling with our countries affairs. If and only if we do something to this extreme will this problem possibly get solved. I don't even want to go into the alternative.

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We have to keep organizing. The day before the rally, the Chicago Tribune, ran an interview with the group’s main organizers, giving them a platform. These racists are planning a future action targeting Wells Fargo, a bank which accepts the matricula consular, a Mexican ID card primarily used by undocumented immigrants. They’re also proposing an “activist boot camp� October 15 to fight “illegal immigration� in Chicago!

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No you people are the real racists. You and your groups like Mecha, Maldef and La Raza (which means for the race). You people want us to be tolerant and compassionate of your views, but you people won't even tolerate someone who has a difference of opinion. Oh and your Mexican ID is fraudulent, a complete sham. If your ID was so legit then why don't you ask the Mexican government why they won't even accept them as legit forms of ID. Yet we're suppose to accept these worthless pieces of paper? Wells Fargo by accepting these fake ID's are in violation of federal law. They should be shutdown and investigated under RICO at the very least. I think this would qualify as racketeering, don't ya think? Yet you idiots still can't figure out the difference between illegal and legl. Illegal = not allowed. Get it?

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We have to build on the momentum of the July 1 protest to let the Minutemen know that they are not welcome here.

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Says who? You illegals? You criminal scum. Your not even suppose to be here in the first place and yet you scumbags are trying to make all the rules here. Get out of this country and stay out. You don't tell us what to do, EVER. America wake up! Unless you want these illegals dictating policy then you better get off your couches and speak out at the very least.

If we had some real leadership in the White House and in the federal government in general then this garbage would have stopped long ago. Bush and his cronies with one phone call could have easily rounded up and deported all 40,000 of these criminal aliens who dared to try to protest policies of a country they don't even have a legal right to reside in. If I was in charge, I would have had the National Guard go in there and rounded up every last one of them and I would have aired it all over the news as a message that illegal immigration will not be tolerated, no matter what. Then again that's just me because unlike Jorge Bush, I actually have a backbone and don't give a damn what the vermin think about me and I don't accept payoffs.

All I can say is thank God I don't live in Chicago. It sounds like they have been taken over by the scourge of our country. I don't any more believe there were 40,000 people there SUPPORTING ILLEGALS than I can fly. And, I don't believe that most of them were legal either because every one I've ever heard interviewed say they don't support illegal immigration. Now, SOMEONE is LYING. Wonder if there are any pictures so we could count the people!!

Next time we know there is going to be something like this going on, we need to post it on the website and have EVERY MEMBER contact ICE and tip them off. They wouldn't even have to buy them coffee and donuts. AND, then if nothing is done, we can attack ICE for not doing their jobs.

40,000 Wow! I wonder why this wastn on the news??? :roll:

Without going too deeply into exploring this, I think it is interesting that in Chicago, 40,000 Americans who are latino ancestory have no problem with people who violate our law. It tells me more about the community of Americans of latino ancestory than anything.

Do they think that 40,000 latinos standing up for criminals makes the hispanic-americans look GOOD?

A Google search looking for coverage of this "event" first turned up postings on FR. This is the translated La Raza (el puko) version. El Puko, La Raza, claims 50,000 showed up.

Historical Latina Manifestation
La Raza ^ | July 2 2005 | Miguel Ã?ngel Arrieta
Posted on 07/02/2005 6:47:31 PM PDT by chicagolady

Historical Latin manifestation Send east article!

Thousands of Latin of all the nationalities participated in Chicago in a march against the measures anti-immigrants. PUBLICITY Miguel Arrieta Angel The surprising answer to the call emitted by local wireless companies, to participate in the march against policies and practices anti-immigrants, exceeded the expectations of the organizers of this manifestation. And it is that according to calculations of authorities and representatives of organizations who participated in the manifestation, they were little more than 50 thousand people whom crossed this Friday the streets of the South zone of Chicago, to send his protest against the hardening assumed by the North American government in the matter of immigration.

From the 7:30 in the morning groups of Latin adorned in their majority with blue trousers and playera white, began to arrive at the rallying point where he would give to beginning the march. Women, children, old, young, originating whole families of Costa Rica, Guatemala, Ecuador, but mainly of Mexico, after two hours already added the thousand people integrated to the movement.

In an atmosphere of fair decorated in the rain of claxonazos of trailers, trucks and automobiles, the members of the human column carried flags, posters, placards, standards of the Virgin of Guadalupe and organized in choir they sent slogans of protest directed to organizations anti-immigrants like the Minuteman group.

Other slogans were for President George Bush, so that it listened to the voice "of million citizens who participate in the growth of America and receive treatment of slaves". Thousand of fine cardboards presented/displayed with the arms in stop by his carriers, they also reflected the objectives of those who decided to send themselves to the street: "We want recognition like workers, we are not terrorist"; "We demanded right to obtain driver's licenses"; "Minuteman, rapists of human rights"; "High to the deportations".

People, people and more people. They left street 32, street 33. They arrived by both senses of the Archer avenue. Hundreds flowed more from the South side of the Ashland avenue. They complied in the spaces that found between the multitude. There was no a voice to order the crowd. Nor idea of how avoiding the confusion. Several times the contingent was confused by voices that indicated the moment for starting, but ended up stopping.

The organizers did not know what to do. It was the intervention of diverse volunteers who seted out to order the march, which allowed to avoid an unbalanced long walk. Minutes after the 10:00 in the morning contingent he initiated his displacement from the crossing of 31 street and Ashland avenue. This happened when al in front of the manifestation was placed the wireless conductor Rafael Pulido , identified like "the Gunman" of Chicago, that during the last weeks became the main promoter of this march. To the shout of "Himself it can; yes it can ", thousands of throats shook the streets of Chicago.

Before it had never happened something thus in this region of North America, revealed Councilman Ricardo Muñoz, hurried by those who they walked back of him in interminable row. Of that form, the contingent took almost two hours in moving until the parking of a located commercial center on the same Ashland avenue, to the height of street 43.

There, the Cardinal red parish priest Frame considered that the success achieved with the participation of thousands of citizens, must be as soon as the beginning of other similar movements that allow to sensitize the government of George Bush. In the heat of euphoria by the inaudita answer that had the call to participate in the march, the parish priest was interrupted by the music of the Mariachi who became present at those moments.

The emotion of the assistants did not stop there. It was the intonation of the Mexican national anthem what a gigantic culminated choir of new account by "Yes woke up can; yes it can ". In summary, it was an historical day for the Latin movement and particularly for the actions for the immigrants © the Race
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The weird thing is, NBC, CBS, ABC, and FOX TV didn't cover this at all! Neither did the Chicago Tribune or Sun-Times. They sent reporters and camera men to a FAIR meeting at a Chicago restaurant a few months ago where there were only 50 protestors to our 50 reformers. I guess the Sandra Day O'Connor resignation must have had all available reporters too busy yesterday.

1 posted on 07/02/2005 6:47:31 PM PDT by chicagolady

If they are going to sing the MEXICAN NATIONAL ANTHEM, they need to go back to MEXICO. Get this--THIS IS AMERICA. We sing the STAR SPANGLED BANNER here.

I don't know if there were 40,000 protestors there or not. But I'm sure there were plenty of illegals there.

WHERE DO ILLEGALS GET OFF TELLING U.S. CITIZENS THAT THEY AREN'T WELCOME IN CHICAGO...THE LAST I KNEW CHICAGO WAS STILL PART OF THE UNITED STATES!

And in reference to the LEGAL IMMIGRANTS there (of which most were probably earlier Amnesty illegals) IT SEEM YOU ARE NOT ASSIMMILATING ver well.

This is how insane the situation has gotten.

Also, do you know why these groups are so successful at getting people to picket, protest, etc? SOME OF THE "NON-PROFIT" HISPANIC/LATINO ORGANIZATIONS REQUIRE THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN MARCHES, ETC. IF THEY WANT THE GROUP TO HELP THEM. I BET YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT DID YOU?

I sure didn't know that. Wonder if they pay them to participate in these "rallies"?? I guess Chicago is on the way to becoming another California. If things don't change in a hurry in North Carolina, it will be the same here. I wish we could all go to one of these functions and that we could really get together MASSES of people to show up.

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All I can say is thank God I don't live in Chicago. It sounds like they have been taken over by the scourge of our country. I don't any more believe there were 40,000 people there SUPPORTING ILLEGALS than I can fly. And, I don't believe that most of them were legal either because every one I've ever heard interviewed say they don't support illegal immigration. Now, SOMEONE is LYING. Wonder if there are any pictures so we could count the people!!

Next time we know there is going to be something like this going on, we need to post it on the website and have EVERY MEMBER contact ICE and tip them off. They wouldn't even have to buy them coffee and donuts. AND, then if nothing is done, we can attack ICE for not doing their jobs.

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Ive met dozens of legal Hispanic immigrants who support illegal immigrants. 40,000 is WAY to high, CNN would have been there talking about how proud and brave they are for standing up to the "evil vigilanties".

Well, Lou Dobbs wouldn't have been because he was interviewing William and the president of NumbersUSA.

I don't think the majority of the protesters however many there were consisted of Hispanic or Latino Americans. They were all illegals. Hispanic and Latino American Citizens view this issue in the exact same manner as we do as American Citizens.

I did read that Chicago has the second largest population, second to California.

Also, the Socialist Worker is not a Social Worker but I believe a socialist/communist newspaper or magazine.

I think I've seen that on the web when I was researching globalism which is just a new term for Marxist Socialism.

I'll let you know what I find out.

I say....let them keep rallying, protesting, talking....they're doing our work for US.

William, I do not believe the 40,000 figure either. That would have gotten national media coverage and I didn't see or hear a thing about it except through this posted article.

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Originally Posted by MopheadBlue

they were little more than 50 thousand people whom crossed this Friday the streets of the South zone of Chicago, to send his protest against the hardening assumed by the North American government in the matter of immigration.

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The way they keep inflating the numbers it will soon reach 100,000 protesters. They should just go ahead a round it off to a million so they can call it the million illegal immigrant march.

Brian-- :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I haven't heard a single word of it on any media outlet...I DO NOT believe this occured except in their imaginations....

RR

It's amazing if this really happened and nobody covered it. That's almost like saying....the gnats are out, close the door, pull the shades, and about 3 hours later somebody asking, "are they gone yet?"

In otherwords, nobody in Chicago gave a HOOT about what THEY were whining about.

COULD BE...sounds very midwestern-reasonable to me!

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You know, it would be good to find out if La Raza actually LIED ABOUT the event....eh?

8)

I watched WGN today at noon out of Chicago, nothing about the millions of illegals march???

Hey was there a baseball game at Wrigley Field the day of the protest? Maybe a couple of illegals were walking past the stadium at the end of the game when the crowd from the stadium were exiting. There's your 40,000 protesters! :D

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La Raza = Liar, Liar, Pants Afire!!

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I watched WGN today at noon out of Chicago, nothing about the millions of illegals march???

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That's because it was back on July 1.

MopHeadBlue--do you know if it got any coverage and whether or not they are telling the truth about this number of people who showed up?

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This July 1, 2005 story in the Chicago Tribune discusses the "rally".
Immigration rally brings Minuteman issue to head

This statement was on page 2 of the story:

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Although organizers predicted about 1,000 participants, independent observers counted far fewer than that, raising criticism that the whole operation was merely a stunt to generate publicity.

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Thank you Zorch. Can we have a link to that. What a big bunch of liars! They are trying to encourage others, I bet the Spanish media has run with the 40,000 lie to try and stir things up and say "come on out ye illegals!"

W

Article was already posted on this forum.

https://www.alipac.us/ftopict-5915-oscar.html+avila

Speaking of La Raza--the head of that "esteemed" group was on Lou Dobbs last night. Poor Lou!!! He was having a hard time being civil to her. She did NOT mention the number of people at their "meeting" and she would NOT say that she did not agree with ILLEGAL immigration. Lou appeared flustered again. I know he has to give a LITTLE equal time to groups like this but he needs to get TOUGH with them.

I'll believe it happened only when a somewhat credible news outlet reports it. Until then, it's they're fantasy.

RR

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They chanted at full volume, “¡Si se puede!, ¡Si se puede!� (Yes, we can!; Yes we can!�), holding signs that read, “Minutemen: Human Rights Violators�; “We want recognition as workers: we are not terrorists�; “We demand the right to get work permits� and “Stop Deportations.�

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"Yes we can" -- that's because the government allows it. Aliens, legal or illegal, have no "rights" in any country. Aliens from Mexico have the same rights in the United States that American aliens do in Mexico under the "law of nations" -- nothing more and that "right" does not include making demands of the government

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They chanted at full volume, “¡Si se puede!, ¡Si se puede!� (Yes, we can!; Yes we can!�), holding signs that read, “Minutemen: Human Rights Violators�; “We want recognition as workers: we are not terrorists�; “We demand the right to get work permits� and “Stop Deportations.�

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"Yes we can" -- that's because the government allows it. Aliens, legal or illegal, have no "rights" in any country. Aliens from Mexico have the same rights in the United States that American aliens do in Mexico under the "law of nations" -- nothing more and that "right" does not include making demands of the government

That's exactly right, Mamie. Anyone other than an American Citizen here legally is a guest in our country and not within or jurisdiction covered by our Constitution. Thanks for pointing that out!! Laws of Nations. Good to know!!

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yep, law of nations ...
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-6657.html

40,000 my Forest Gump buttocks....just like all the boycotts they threaten us with and never do it.....

www.laraza.com

“We Come from the Same Land�

To Severo Fuentes, originally from a community in the northern zone of the state of Guerrero, counting a day of his business’ financial losses doesn’t matter. He closed the curtains and told his employees, “To the march!�

Miguel A. Arrieta Especial La Raza

There were others like him. Although they are businessmen, they dared to lose a day’s income, inventing excuses for not going to the factory. “Like, I’ll be going to Cook County Hospital, because they’re going to do an analysis,� said one worker whose name is withheld for obvious reasons.

There were also some who apparently had no reason for being there, in the sun and enduring the crush and trampling of feet. “We are legal residents. My children were born here and we have no problems with Immigration,� said Eliseo Morales, who took part in the march along with all his family, his wife, siblings, children and their godparents.

“But that won’t keep us from supporting our fellow countrymen. We are brothers by origin. We come from the same land and share the problems of our race, and so here we are,� he affirmed.

There were thousands of Mexicans, Salvadorans, Hondurans, Peruvians. They were also from Ecuador, Uruguay and Costa Rica. The flags of all the nationalities gave a festive air to the gathering. They were the complement to the hundreds of pieces of cardboard carried as battle standards.

Like silent voices leaving a permanent memory, each of them bore the demand “We want recognition as workers; we are not terrorists;� “We demand the right to get work permits;� “Minutemen, Human Rights Violators;� “Stop Deportations.�

As counterpoint to these printed shouts, the real voices spoke in phrases of incredulity. Words of surprise became the most recurring expression. Nobody could believe what they were witnessing. “Look at all the goddam people! How are we going to find space?�

In the moments prior to the demonstration, nobody envisioned what would follow. The human wave still could not be fully estimated. Nobody could even imagine that a little over fifty thousand fellow countrymen would come. Hundreds of popsicle vendors were making a holiday of the occasion. There was also crackling; “but we’re also selling corn on the cob and fruit, Boss.�

“Water, no, because it’s a screw. They told us that they were going to be giving it away. Toward the front there are cars and trucks giving away bottles,� confessed Simón Lagunas of Angangueo, Michoacán.

“Yes we can; yes we can,� at full volume. The war cries of the march caught the attention of American workers who watched from windows and openings of buildings facing the passage of the contingent.

“But, what is it that we can?â€? asked a smiling Maritza GarcÃÂ*a, who wore her origins on her sleeve. “I am from Magdalena Mixuca in Mexico City… and I don’t know what it is that we can, if my husband doesn’t…â€? whereupon she was cut off by dozens of guffaws from listeners.

The march surged onward. At the intersection of Ashland and 35th Street, the Chicago Police closed the way to the bridge. “For the safety of the demonstrators,� informed the officer in command.

The column was channeled to the right. There the human wave milled around. The narrow passage hindered the progress of the thousands of marchers, but nothing was stopping them.

From within the throng came friendly greetings to the agents of order. A reporter shouted out, “Quiet! Remember, this is a peaceful march. Calm down!�

She was answered with whistles, hoots and Bronx cheers.

“It’s like being in a stadium here. It doesn’t occur to anybody to support the referee,� explained Juan González with the unassailable logic of a soccer-addicted people.

“Well, Boss, doesn’t it occur to anybody that they should at least allow us the pleasure of cussing at those cops? Most likely, George Bush won’t pay us any attention, but that’s what I’m going to do, if just for the pleasure… or maybe not, Boss?�

Now to the White House

Over fifty thousand people on the street is enough reason for the federal government to look with respect upon the organizational capability of the Latin population of Illinois.

“And why not?� assures Abel Vences, one of the group of radio announcers who called a mass march through the streets of Chicago. “It’s only logical that the next step should be a bigger march, but this time in front of the White House in Washington, DC.�

Such a proposal follows the first evaluations focused on the political and social impact brought about by the mass demonstration enacted on the streets in the South Side of Chicago, and which brought out the city’s Hispanic aldermen and lawmakers, as was the case with Congressman Luis Gutiérrez.

Interviewed by telephone during a break in the broadcast of the program “El Pistolero y MemÃÂ*nâ€? (“The Gunman and MemÃÂ*nâ€?) in which he participates with Rafael Pulido “the Gunmanâ€? who had been the principal instigator and promoter of the march, Vences acknowledged that the level of citizen participation surpassed the organizers’ own expectations.

He felt that even though they couldn’t make an in-depth evaluation of the effects resulting from the march, among other reasons because after the demonstration came the long break of the Independence Day holiday, the first comments indicated a positive outcome per the measures of the objectives achieved by this movement.

“Indeed,� Vences affirmed, “we got many calls from Latin representatives, Mexican and Hispanic political organizations located in Illinois, California and Texas, among other states, to capitalize on the emotions brought out in these times in the thousands of people who marched through this city.�

He said that already there are proposals to sit down to discuss a project to allow calling an even bigger march, but this time in the country’s capital itself. “After this, nothing else is needed to increase the capability and operational organization of the people involved in issuing the call.�

In his turn, Vicar Marco Cárdenas, a member of the organizing committee and whose parish turned out enthusiastically for the event, related that the immediate outcome of the march has produced an increase in activists that now promote the message of unity and awareness among Latins to legally stand up against the abuses of power by officials and organizations recognized as being anti-immigrant.

During the interview, the cleric said that the Hispanic population has never had such a set of circumstances like now to allow demonstrating openly against outrages committed against minority groups.

From his point of view, this set of circumstances is just what brought thousands of people to respond to the call to join with one common voice to complain and protest to the federal government about the indifference and insensitivity with which hundreds of thousands of residents who lack working papers are treated in this country.

Indeed, Cárdenas was one of the main speakers in the demonstration’s closing events. There the priest, already identified as one of the principal leaders in the opposition against abuses to immigrants, said that the success achieved by the march, with the participation by thousands of citizens, should be just the beginning of other similar movements to raise the awareness of George W. Bush’s administration.

Once away from the euphoria that had overcome him at the time, but with the memory of the march still fresh, Cárdenas affirmed that this is his personal view.

Nevertheless, he pointedly observed that over fifty thousand people did march through the streets of Chicago, on a weekday and in suffocating heat, providing a real and significant chance for the voices of hundreds of thousands of immigrants to be heard by the federal government.

In his turn, Congressman Luis Gutiérrez acknowledged that the magnitude to which the demonstration grew was unexpected.

However, he observed that regardless of the medium used for calling the demonstration that resulted in such a gathering of people, what is certain is that the Bush administration must take into account and view with respect the power of the organizational capacity of the Hispanic society settled in this country.

Doubtlessly, the Congressman of Puerto Rican background pointed out, the federal government is obliged to stop delaying the issue of immigration reform.

He pointed out that one of the priorities is to bring this issue to the table right away, and if anybody has any doubts about taking this route, turning the head a little bit toward what happened in Chicago last Friday should be enough to get back on track. ©La Raza

You noticed the copyright at the bottom belonging to La Raza?

Meet the first 50,000 of the 50,000,000 already here in the United States.

For the past 35 years La Raza has built a race that doesn't exist.

For the pst 35 years La Raza has illegally used its 501 C 3 organization to aid and orchestrate illegal immigration into the United States not only for Hispanics but every nation in the world, because when illegal immigration of Hispanics is not controlled then no illegal immigration can be controlled.

The American People are completely infiltrated nationwide, so if 50,000 on the streets in Chicago seems alarming, just imagine the next demonstration when there are 2,000,000 in Chicgo; 6,000,000 in LA; 4,000,000 in New York; 1,000,000 in DC; Seattle, Portland, Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Boston, Atlanta, Detroit, Miami, Missouri, Wisconsin, Minnesota, North Carolina, Florida, etc., etc., etc.

No White House
No Cabinet
No Military (with the White House)
No US Senate
No US Supreme Court (even if the next two judges agree with us they have the votes)

___House of Representatives (undecided)

No Power Brokers
No Money Mongers
No Major Corporations

____State and Local Law Enforcement (undecided)

No Governors
No National Guards

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It all rides on the CAFTA vote in the House of Representatives which will tell us whether or not that body is with US.

If they are, then they have the power to Impeach the President and send a request for Removal from Office to the US Senate.

We already know the position of the US Senate who will not remove this President from Office because it supports his Agenda.

Then you try and file suits of Treason to void the Pact with Canada and Mexico on the basis that the President did not have legal authority to execute and did so as an act of Treason. It will go all the way to the US Supreme Court. I believe irrespective of the next two Judges, they already have the 5 votes needed to claim the President acted within his powers given to him by the US Congress; will reverse the lower courts; exonerate the Government; and validate the Pact. Once that Pact is affirmed, then CAFTA will be achieved by Pact, then FTAA will be achieved by Pact because of the contiguous perimeters...Mexico, then Central America, then South America all in the name of Security and Prosperity.

"Security and Prosperity": The Secret Code for Dissolution of the United States of America, legally, by the Executive Branch of the United States.

It is stunning really in its legal brilliance.

They found the Legal Loophole to End the United States.

We'll only know the specifics through the Federal Register where all new regulations are posted....there will be over 300 of them according to the Canadian source in one of the articles about the Norh American Community.

Some of you may recall about 90 days ago someone was trying to tell us about the Federal Register and told us if we wanted to know what was going on we would find out from the Federal Register. But we couldn't figure out what he was talking about. He was from Colorado.

Any ideas what we do now?

[quote="Bootsie"]Speaking of La Raza--the head of that "esteemed" group was on Lou Dobbs last night. Poor Lou!!! He was having a hard time being civil to her. She did NOT mention the number of people at their "meeting" and she would NOT say that she did not agree with ILLEGAL immigration. Lou appeared flustered again. I know he has to give a LITTLE equal time to groups like this but he needs to get TOUGH with them.[/quo

they all

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share the problems of our race, and so here we are

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it's not race -- they all share that they came here illegally.


here I go again on my soapbox:

the Senate OF the United States is "unconstitutional" and has no authority from ANY state to enter agreements binding on the States because the
Senate was elected by "the people" and not "appointed by the State" as guaranteed in Article I of the Constitution. The Senate is not vested with the States "power of attorney"

Look at Arizona -- the state legislature passes bills against illegal aliens and the Governor vetoes them and Senator McCain sponsors bills in Congress to grant amnesty --- is Senator John McCain voting on behalf of the Arizona State Legislature and the people of Arizona? I think not

I prepared an amendment and sent it to the states to "Restore the United States Senate" and requested to meet with the governor of my state to discuss the matter but was denied a meeting