Thread: Bush confronted by voter over immigration

By Ashley Killough CNN
September 6, 2015

HAMPTON, New Hampshire (CNN) -- Just minutes after Jeb Bush bashed Donald Trump in his stump speech on Thursday, Bush was questioned by a frustrated voter on what he would do about illegal immigration at the U.S.-Mexico border.

In the six-minute exchange that grew tense at times, the former Florida governor was asked why he didn't support the idea of cutting off aid or other funds to Mexico until the country does more to stop illegal crossings into the United States.

"They don't do anything about the border. We're being defensive. Why don't we be offensive for once?" the voter asked, echoing sentiments that have been trumpeted by Trump.

He described himself as "pissed off" about the flood of undocumented immigrants and argued that "they're all criminals because they are breaking the law."

"(Mexico) should enforce their Southern border -- that I agree with," Bush responded, pointing out that most undocumented immigrants who have streamed into the U.S. in recent years have come from Central America.

But Bush argued that a "wall won't solve this problem."

While he conceded it makes sense to have a wall in urban areas like in between Juarez and El Paso, Texas, or by San Diego, California, there are other places where it doesn't make sense.

"The notion that another country is going to pay for a wall that we're building is just ludicrous beyond belief," he said, referring to Trump's proposal.

Bush went on to lay out his immigration plan, saying he would use technologies at the border to help detect illegal crossings and pointed to his own experience as a "border governor" because of migrants who came from the Caribbean to Florida.

He reiterated that he supports earned legal status for those that are already in the country illegally if they meet certain criteria.

The voter, however, argued that the government has already been granting amnesty to too many people.

"You tell me if this is amnesty," Bush said, before launching into the requirements he would enforce for anyone wanting legal status.

"You come out from the shadows. You receive a provisional work permit. You pay taxes. You don't receive federal government assistance. You learn English ...You work," he said. "You don't commit crimes ... You earn legal status, not citizenship. That, to me, is the most practical way of dealing with this problem."

Bush also found himself on defense, standing by his position that most immigrants come to the country out of good intentions -- a position that Trump attacked him on this week with an Instagram video.

"99% of people that come across the border ... are coming to provide for their families. The ones that are criminals, we ought to be kick them out. There's no disagreement about that," Bush said. "To ascribe bad motives people who are trying to provide for their families, I'm not going to change my views on that."

Earlier in the event, Bush described Trump as a doomsayer who espouses "pessimistic" views that are dividing the country by preying on peoples' "angst and fears."

"Donald Trump's view is that the end is near," Bush said. "His pessimistic view is let's close the borders, let's create tariffs, let's do this, let's do that--all based on negativity, and the net result is all of us will suffer if that philosophy gains favor."

His comments come as Bush has stepped up his attacks against his Republican rival.

Bush spent considerable time explaining how the two candidates differ not only on immigration, but on taxes and health care.

"Whatever the issue is, there is one path that is aspirational and hopeful, and there is one path that is negative, and it is not the right path for this country," he said. "So here I am."

The former governor also ripped into President Barack Obama and Democrats for making immigration a wedge issue.

"You're angry. I'm frustrated. A bunch of people are angry. The left loves it," he told the voter. "They don't care about fixing this problem. President Barack Obama could have fixed this his first year in office...he didn't even lift a finger to do it 'cause they want to win elections."

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Trump
said something one day about adding fees to business travel visa to help pay for the fence. I do not think I understand visa well enough. How many visas do we have? One should be enough with expiration dates like DLs , you either qualify or you don't.

HELLO
THIS IS ALL OBAMA DOING & YOU KNOW THIS VERY WELL i GO WITH TRUMP HE IS STREET SMART . & HE MANAGEMENT MONEY MORE THEN THE REST OF YOU HE KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING THAT MORE THEN I CAN SAY FOR THE HOLD LOT OF YOU GET THE HELL OFF OF YOUR SOAP BOX . ALL YOU ALL DO IS SHOOT OFF YOUR MOUTH IM GOING TO DO THIS &THAT & YOU DON'T DO ONE THING YES THE USA WANT THE BORDER CLOSE DOWN
WE WANT JOB I DON'T HAVE YET . YOU FRIEND'S THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAS MY JOB TY OBAMA
i CAN NOT GET ANY HELP FROM THE WELFARE ONLY THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS GET THAT . I CAN NOT GET ANY HELP IN THE( ER )
TRUMP HAS THE BEST THING GOING FOR OUR COUNTRY IF ONLY YOU SHUT THE HELL,UP & LISTEN TO HIM \ & MANY NORE
& ANOTHER THING WHEN THE GIRL HAS HER BABY IT NOT A USA CITIZEN
GRITA & TRUMP ALSO HELP THE MARINE DID ANY OF YOU HELP NO BUT &HE ALSO HELP THE VET'S DID ANY OF YOU NO OBAMA WOULD NOT PICK UP THE PHONE TO SEE IF THIS GUY WAS OK . BUT TRUMP & GRITA DID & TY BOTH SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP SHIP EVERY ONE OF THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HOME & ENGLISH ONLY YOUR IN USA NOT MEXICO'S

Originally Posted by kevinssdad

Trump
said something one day about adding fees to business travel visa to help pay for the fence. I do not think I understand visa well enough. How many visas do we have? One should be enough with expiration dates like DLs , you either qualify or you don't.

Visas are just a way to inspect an applicant closer before entry is allowed.
I went to Argentina and they don't require a visa but they require a payment called a
"reciprocity". That payment is just a "mirror image" of the fee that the US charge Argentine citizens. If we were to charge Mexican citizens a fee, they would offset their fee and require a "reciprocity" fee. I don't see a win on that path.

trump want mexico to pay for the it call good management that what he told the new guy 3 time & still did not understand about how they would pay for this fence & as for the visa that was chris from nj that said about visa . fedex i listen to trump & he is very smart . he know what he is saying &he 100 right about thing he want our country back & im with him 100 % as for all of the other
they should get the hell off the soap Box .
good luck trump

Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio are the tow biggest illegal alien amnesty supporters on the ballot! What a lying slime ball. Like anyone believes ole Jeb and our failing government is going to make illegals learn English, pay fines, and stay out of trouble with the law.

And the courts will strike down that attempt to give them legal status without the vote in less than 1 year!

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You tell me if this is amnesty," Bush said, before launching into the requirements he would enforce for anyone wanting legal status.

"You come out from the shadows. You receive a provisional work permit. You pay taxes. You don't receive federal government assistance. You learn English ...You work," he said. "You don't commit crimes ... You earn legal status, not citizenship. That, to me, is the most practical way of dealing with this problem."

Yes Mr. Bush, that is amnesty! Besides that, it would only be a matter of time before a law was passed to set those that were given your amnesty (legal status) on a path to citizenship. The liberals, and some of the conservatives, in our country would never find it acceptable to permanently deny citizenship to specific group of people. To do so would be like saying they are a lower class of people and not deserving of equal rights. Your plan of permanent legalization without a path to citizenship would never fly, but of course I think you already know that and just want to get their (the illegals) foot in the door!