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    Miss:Immigration Raid Spotlights Rift of Have-Nots

    January 23, 2009

    Immigration raid in Mississippi spotlights rift of have-nots

    By DEBORAH HASTINGS
    The Associated Press

    The work has always been stupefying and hard. Hour after hour standing on the line, soldering or welding or drilling in screws.

    Even in today's nightmare economy, most people wouldn't want this daily grind that steals the soul in 12-hour shifts paying as little as $280 a week, before taxes.

    But such labor prospers here in mostly rural Jones County, home to Laurel, where the area's biggest employer, Howard Industries, maintains a sprawling factory that builds electrical transformers and other big equipment behind a chain-link fence topped with barbed wire.

    Assembly lines like these offer tenuous lifelines to those desperate enough to toil on them. And sometimes, competition for these jobs pits have-nots against have-nots.

    For a long time, Howard workers were poor blacks and whites in this town of 18,000, where an estimated 30 percent of the population lives in poverty.

    But in the past few years, immigrants poured across the Mexican border, eagerly applying for work on the Howard line and not complaining about long hours or menial labor.

    A festering resentment began to take root in the hearts of some black and white residents, producing an odd alliance in a place that has seen decades of racism. Now, even the Ku Klux Klan has turned its hatred against Hispanics.

    Many blacks and whites claimed Hispanics were taking over their city and taking away jobs by not complaining about safety issues in a factory that faced $193,000 in fines last year from federal inspectors citing dangerous working conditions.

    The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency swept in last summer and staged the largest single workplace raid. When nearly 600 Hispanics were herded past black and white Howard employees, jeers and applause and wide grins erupted.

    "Bye-bye," some trilled in falsetto, fingers wagging. "Go back where you came from."

    The assembly line rattles on. But now mostly blacks work it, with a smattering of whites, for the same wages paid to Hispanics. The plant, which has been working without a union contract since August, is mired in bitter negotiations over higher pay and safety issues.

    Workplace raids reached an all-time high in 2008 with 6,287 arrests — a tenfold rise since 2003. After the 9-11 attacks, in the name of national security, the Bush administration announced it wanted to detain, and then deport, every illegal immigrant in America. Such a drastic change in immigration policy was necessary to safeguard the country against terrorists, said the newly formed Department of Homeland Security.

    But swooping down on low-paying jobs has yet to produce terrorism suspects. Asked if any of the raids had produced terror-related arrests, ICE spokeswoman Barbara Gonzalez replied, "Not to my knowledge."

    Such raids have netted sweatshop workers in Massachusetts, kosher slaughterhouse employees in Iowa and federal courthouse janitors in Rhode Island.

    But the biggest roundup — 592 people arrested, mostly for the crime of illegally entering this country — was here in Laurel.

    Since then, 414 Hispanics have been deported; 23 have left voluntarily and 27 were released on bond pending immigration hearings. One remains incarcerated at a federal detention center in Jena, La. Nine were charged with identity theft for using false identification.

    More than 100, mostly women with children, were released pending the outcome of their cases. They wade through a long, confusing current of immigration hearings that will determine their futures. Many fear venturing out, lest they receive withering glances in the Wal-Mart aimed at the electronic monitoring devices on their ankles.

    Immigrant groups, religious leaders, and various Democrats have expressed hope that the raids will be curtailed under President Barack Obama. The immigrants in Laurel know this, and they hope Obama's promise of change applies to them.

    "We just want to work," says Ismael Cabrera, a 37-year-old father of two, who paid a smuggler $2,000 to walk him across the desert into Arizona, then paid $1,000 more to get a ride to Laurel, where he first worked in a chicken slaughterhouse.

    "It's not that we took the jobs from other people," he says in Spanish. "It's that they don't want to work them."

    He waits on a deportation hearing and weeps at the prospect of going back to his hometown near Mexico City, where he made little money. His son, Cesar, has few memories of that place. He left when he was 6.

    Now a sweet-faced boy of 13, Cesar respectfully interprets for his father in perfect English delivered with a Mississippi drawl.

    Cesar is asked how he feels about going back to Mexico.

    His gaze drops to his feet. His eyes brim with tears. He wipes his nose with the back of his wrist, sitting in Pentecostal church his family attends. "Bad," he manages to get out. "It would feel bad."

    Cabrera wipes his own face with the sleeve of his shirt.

    "Sometimes I ask myself if it was worth it to come here," he says in a voice just above a whisper.

    Local 1317 of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers had been making a special effort to sign up Hispanics, estimated by the union to be about 40 percent to 60 percent of the Howard work force. It had signed up about 150 before the raid, said the local's president, Clarence Larkin, who is African-American.

    Those new members are now gone, and with them, Larkin said, went a budding sense of solidarity.

    The turnover rate for non-Hispanics is 40 percent, he said. There was very little turnover among Hispanic workers, which deepened the divide between the groups.

    "As long as you can keep people at odds with each other, that drives out the union," Larkin said. "It's divide and conquer. To be successful, you have to be united. And this made the union weaker."

    ICE spokeswoman Gonzalez said the raid came after a union member called two years ago to complain about undocumented workers at the plant.

    Blacks in Mississippi know plenty about exploitation. Laurel itself had long been Klan territory, where hooded, robed men marched proudly down the main thoroughfare before the civil rights movement.

    White Knights Imperial Wizard Sam H. Bowers, suspected in hundreds of attacks including the infamous "Mississippi Burning" murders of three voter registration workers, lived in Laurel.

    These days, hate has a new target.

    "Time for Mexico and Mexicans to get the hell out!!!" blasts a recruiting message on a Klan Web site. In rallies staged in recent years in Laurel, Tupelo and other Mississippi cities, Klan members gathered to accuse Hispanic immigrants of being child molesters, job stealers and destroyers of the American way of life.

    Last year, Mississippi passed the most restrictive law in the nation against undocumented workers, making it a felony for an illegal immigrant to hold a job.

    Republicans and Democrats have campaigned on anti-immigration platforms. In 2007, the Mississippi Immigrant Rights Alliance sent a protest letter to national Democratic Party chairman Howard Dean, saying Democratic candidates "are peddling racist lies against immigrants that violate the core of the party's progressive agenda. We do not need politicians whose only concern is getting elected."

    More than 20 percent of Mississippi residents live in poverty — the highest rate in the country, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

    Added to those rolls since the raid: Cabrera, his son Cesar and many others.

    One is a woman named Mary, who didn't want her last name used because she said she has cut a deal with federal prosecutors investigating whether Howard Industries knowingly hired illegal immigrants using false identification. "The investigation is ongoing," said ICE's Gonzalez.

    A spokeswoman for the company, which has not been formally accused of wrongdoing, declined comment. Previously, Howard officials have said they never knowingly hired an undocumented worker.

    Mary was a solderer on the line for $11 an hour. The burning light and noxious fumes seared her eyes until she wept. She can no longer read up close and she can't afford glasses. She hopes federal investigators will help her get a work visa to replace the fake ID she bought here.

    Cabrera, now scraping by doing odd jobs like cutting grass, also purchased forged ID cards.

    Sometimes the Social Security numbers are real and belong to real people.

    But Laurel's factory raid targeted only illegal immigrants, not the people who sell them bogus documents costing anywhere from $60 to $200 a piece.

    Cabrera doesn't know what will happen to him, or what he will do if deportation is ruled his fate.

    Angelica Olmedo, a 32-year-old single mother, has already decided what to do. She will volunteer for deportation to Vera Cruz, where her parents grow sugar cane.

    Her 13-year-old son, who was 5 when she paid for him to be smuggled to Mississippi, will return with her. After she was swept up in the Howard raid, she was released on "humanitarian" grounds because she was a single mom.

    She was outfitted with an electronic ankle bracelet and told not to leave the state. "I feel like a dog," she said, sitting in the doublewide trailer she shares with her sister, her brother-in-law, their two daughters and her son. "They told me I have charge it every two hours, and I said, 'What am I? A cell phone?"'

    It took about two months for Olmedo to realize that apparently no one was monitoring the devices. In time, the clumsy plastic device slipped off her foot. No one from ICE has said a word to her since.

    "It's to shame me," she said. "That's all it was, to shame me. To make me look like a criminal. But I am not a criminal, I was only working."

    People stared and pointed when she went out in public.

    Yet Olmedo has met kindness from some former co-workers. "I had friends. African-American and white. They come and ask if I need money for food. I don't take it. They brought shoes."

    At Howard Industries, where the day crew is just getting off, a freezing rain pelts workers walking to their cars, heads bowed to shield their faces.

    They are mostly black and mostly male. Some carry the stooped shoulders of the bone-weary. Others bound toward the employee parking lot with the glee of the newly freed.

    Larry Jones, 24, sits in his car with the heater blasting, sucking the life out of a Swisher Sweets cigarillo. He has been on the job as a coil winder for two months.

    He makes $8.20 an hour. And he is thankful for the raid.

    "Now they got to hire us. The illegals will work for less than we will, and they'll work more. They were getting jobs everywhere."

    He added: "I know they got to work, but it's rough over here, too."

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    "We just want to work," says Ismael Cabrera, a 37-year-old father of two, who paid a smuggler $2,000 to walk him across the desert into Arizona, then paid $1,000 more to get a ride to Laurel, where he first worked in a chicken slaughterhouse.

    "It's not that we took the jobs from other people," he says in Spanish. "It's that they don't want to work them." <<<<< BULL! If no one wanted to work those jobs, why are the lines and Plant still running?


    "It's to shame me," she said. "That's all it was, to shame me. To make me look like a criminal. But I am not a criminal, I was only working."
    UHHH, yea if you jumped the border YOU ARE A CRIMINAL, if you were working.. YOU ARE A CRIMINAL,and you damn well know it!

    "Now they got to hire us. The illegals will work for less than we will, and they'll work more. They were getting jobs everywhere." <<< GOOD things come out of these raids.. for US LEGAL citizens!

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    But in the past few years, immigrants poured across the Mexican border, eagerly applying for work on the Howard line and not complaining about long hours or menial labor.
    This is a line of crap. Yea, they go to work with a skip in their step and a smile on their face and that's why they get loaded every evening after work with their 20 roommates and every other word is the F-bomb(in Spanish) because the pay is good and they are damn happy about it.

    This article makes it sound like the illegal aliens happily whistle and sing "Hi Ho Hi Ho, it's off to work we go..." every morning. The are just deliriously giddy about work.

    There was a time in this country when welding was a trade and a skill that paid well. But I guess that's the same as anything else. When the cheep illegal labor take over, the craftsmanship and pay deteriorate.

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    "It's to shame me," she said. "That's all it was, to shame me. To make me look like a criminal. But I am not a criminal, I was only working."
    So apparently there is no shame in getting exploited by a smuggler, having to leave your own country as there you have failed to better your life. There apparently is no shame in striving for personal gain by breaking the law (Bernie Madoff pulled that). But once your wrong-doing brings consequences, you shamelessly play the innocent victim. Horse crap!
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    is a line of crap. Yea, they go to work with a skip in their step and a smile on their face and that's why they get loaded every evening after work with their 20 roommates and every other word is the F-bomb(in Spanish) because the pay is good and they are damn happy about it.

    This article makes it sound like the illegal aliens happily whistle and sing "Hi Ho Hi Ho, it's off to work we go..." every morning. The are just deliriously giddy about work.

    There was a time in this country when welding was a trade and a skill that paid well. But I guess that's the same as anything else. When the cheep illegal labor take over, the craftsmanship and pay deteriorate.
    LOL....I was thinking the same thing. Many haven't even been here that long and are already demanding more so their kids don't have to do the menial jobs they did....so obviously they aren't all that happy about it. Many aren't even willing to go through the same process the rest of us did by working our way up through generations of hard work and sacrifice.....just give it to me, yesterday preferably. I'm sick of the idea that just because they got hired somehow it means Americans don't want it. When that's not the case. I don't think there's been a single business where raids took place that closed as a direct result of not finding any American employees willing to work.

    Then in many cases to add insult to injury, they start with the "abuses to Mexicans" as if this stuff never happened before, that we don't have laws, that ANY group of people who were somehow incapable of complaining about it wouldn't be taken advantage of as well....and it's another assult on Americans vs Latinos. But please....whatever you do......don't enforce the law.
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    "As long as you can keep people at odds with each other, that drives out the union," Larkin said. "It's divide and conquer. To be successful, you have to be united. And this made the union weaker."
    Its making the entire country weaker.
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    It seems all Ilegal Immigrants have a degree in victimology !
    "A Government big enough to give you everything you want,is strong enough to take everything you have"* Thomas Jefferson

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    It's to shame me," she said. "That's all it was, to shame me. To make me look like a criminal. But I am not a criminal, I was only working."
    So what is a person that is here illegally?

    Mary was a solderer on the line for $11 an hour. The burning light and noxious fumes seared her eyes until she wept. She can no longer read up close and she can't afford glasses. She hopes federal investigators will help her get a work visa to replace the fake ID she bought here.
    Now that you got caught you have been mistreated and proper safety precautions were not in place there at the plant. Must be the American people who lost their jobs to you making it rough for you too.
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    Even in today's nightmare economy, most people wouldn't want this daily grind that steals the soul in 12-hour shifts paying as little as $280 a week, before taxes.
    The crime here is that employers have depressed wages so low that NO citizens or legal immigrants can survive on them! The illegals can by overcrowding homes, using multiple stolen ID's to steal services and multiple anchor babies to get even MORE free services. This MUST stop!

    The greedy employers have reduced their costs, increased the prices and pocketed the difference. They have been able to do this precisely because of an illegal alien workforce. The illegals

    Both the employers and the illegal aliens are the criminals here and must face the consequences. NO sympathy for these criminals.
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    Even in today's nightmare economy, most people wouldn't want this daily grind that steals the soul in 12-hour shifts paying as little as $280 a week, before taxes.
    I bet these jobs paid twice as much BEFORE ILLEGAL ALIENS took them. That is the problem. Illegal aliens have lowered all pay standards accross the nation.
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