Thread: Bush Takes On Opponents of Immigration Deal

GLYNCO, Ga., May 29 — President Bush today accused opponents of his proposed immigration measure of fear-mongering to defeat it in Congress, and took on his own conservative political base as he did so.

“If you want to scare the American people, what you say is the bill’s an amnesty bill,â€

God help me, I voted for the man...twice. Mea culpa.

The left hates him because of the Iraq War and now the right hates him because of his support for amnesty. If he keeps on his approval rating will be in single digits...in fact it may already be!

This quote is the capper for me...
[quote]The fundamental question is, will elected officials have the courage necessary to put a comprehensive immigration plan in place that makes it more likely we can enforce our border and, at the same time, uphold the great traditions of —— immigrant traditions of the United States of America.â€

President Bush needs to realize he doesn't have enough credibility to scold Americans! How dare he accuse us of spouting "empty rhetoric" when he and his administration are the kings of meaningless rhetoric!

sis, Don't feel bad I vote for Dorothy twice. If it were in my power I would be voting tonight to impeach him.
Where were you Dorothy when the rest of us were down in the mud and blood of southeast Asia. Oh, thats right you ran off to Oz did you have your little Dog Toto Chertoff with you.
Since raising my right hand at the age of 17 and swearing to defend my country from all enemies foreign and domestic.I have never been disrespectful to my Commander in Chief, not even when slick Willie Clinton was in office. But, I have no respect left for Bush and as a President and Commander and Chief I feel he as totally failed the American people.

As for Chertoff he is no more than Bushes silver spooned lackey shyster lawyer.

Yea, I guess you could say this old country boy has had his fill of White House BS.


Bush and military service
In January 1968 Bush was set to graduate from Yale University, making him eligible for the draft and, in all likelihood, service in Vietnam. Bush sought entry into the officer corps of the Texas Air National Guard, which would minimise his chances of being dispatched to Vietnam. Despite scoring low on the entrance exam, Bush was accepted.

The controversy over his military service has concentrated on whether his father, George Herbert Walker Bush who was a U.S. Congressman at the time, exerted influence to ensure his son obtained a 'soft' posting in the National Guard and whether he completed his duties sufficiently to justify his honourable discharge in 1973.

"Bush signed a six-year "military service obligation," he was required to attend at least 44 inactive-duty training drills each fiscal year beginning July 1. But Bush's own records show that he fell short of that requirement, attending only 36 drills in the 1972-73 period, and only 12 in the 1973-74 period." [1]

Bush was assigned serve at the Houston Air National Guard base between 1968 and 1973. Bush graduated from flight school in November 1969 and undertook a further six months training in the F-102 fighter-interceptor. Between June 1970 and April 1972 he flew frequently with his unit.

However, in May 1972 he sought and gained approval to move to Alabama to work on the U.S. Senate campaign of Republican Party candidate, Winton Blount. While in Alabama Bush was obliged to continue his duties with another National Guard unit. After failing to have an annual physical examination Bush was removed from flight duty on August 1, 1972.

Bush's military records reveal that he did not do any duty between April 16 and October 28, 1972 and missed training altogether in December 1972 and February and March 1973. There were no records of him having served with any unit in Alabama. It is a requirement of members of the National Guard that they accumulate a minimum of 50 service points in a year. (Each full day of weekend training is worth two points).

On May 2, 1973 one of Bush's superiors noted that "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of report. A civilian occupation made it necessary for him to move to Montgomery, Alabama. He cleared this base on 15 May 1972 and has been performing equivalent training in a non-flying status with the 187th Tac Recon Gp, Dannelly ANG Base, Alabama." However, no records for service in Alabama exist.[2]

Subsequently Bush spent 36 days in May, June and July 1973 on duty, accumulating 41 points. According to the Boston Globe, he was then awarded 15 'gratuitous' service points - enough to get him across the 50 service points threshold. His last service day was July 30, 1973 and - while originally due to serve through to November 1974 - was honourably discharged early to enable him to attend Harvard Business School
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... ry_service

Bush is as full of crap as a christmas goose.

President Chicken Little--ranting about how everthing is broken. The only thing that is broken, Mr. President is your honor and allegiance. You have none. Go home to Popi and tell him he failed.

Bush Chides GOP Critics of Immigration Plan
President Says Opponents 'Haven't Read the Bill' and Are Trying to Frighten Americans

By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 30, 2007; A01



GLYNCO, Ga., May 29 -- President Bush lashed out at critics within his own party Tuesday, accusing Republican opponents of distorting the immigration deal he negotiated with leading congressional Democrats and playing on the politics of fear to undermine public support.

In stern tones normally reserved for the liberal opposition, Bush said conservatives fighting the immigration proposal "haven't read the bill" and oppose it in some cases because "it might make somebody else look good." Their "empty political rhetoric," he said, threatens to thwart what he called the last, best chance to fix an immigration system that all sides agree is broken.

"If you want to kill the bill, if you don't want to do what's right for America, you can pick out one little aspect out of it," he told thousands of trainees at a federal center here that prepares Border Patrol officers. "You can use it to frighten people. Or you can show leadership and solve this problem once and for all, so the people who wear the uniform in this crowd can do the job we expect them to do."

The president's rhetoric underscored the bitter crossfire among Republicans over immigration and the enormous challenge Bush faces in trying to rally his party behind what may be the most significant domestic initiative left in his presidency. The White House has been pressing conservatives to fall in line, sending emissaries to meet with lawmakers and activists, but many on Capitol Hill and on the presidential campaign trail have ignored the administration's pleadings and rushed to denounce the deal.

Although the proposal has the support of key Democrats, most notably Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (Mass.), the White House recognizes that its chances of pushing it through depend on winning enough Republican support. Bush's trip to Georgia opened a campaign intended to undercut the criticism that has consumed conservative talk shows and Web sites and to educate the public about a complicated bill.

But conservatives bristled at his remarks. "I don't think name-calling does any good at this point," said David A. Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union. "What they've done from the very beginning is say, 'This is the way we want it done, and anyone who disagrees with us is outside the mainstream.' . . . It's been badly handled. They'll be lucky, given the attitudes in the country, to come up with anything."

Brian Darling, an analyst at the Heritage Foundation, said he and his colleagues not only have read the bill but also have posted it on the think tank's Web site. "Most conservatives have very strong feelings that this bill contains amnesty . . . and no yelling and screaming by the administration is going to change our minds," he said.

As for the charge of scare tactics, Darling said: "Honestly, I really think people should be frightened. This bill would be the most dramatic change to immigration law in 40 years, and no one seems to understand what's in the bill. . . . The American people should be frightened by the closed-door process that was used and by the ramifications."

The proposal would require that thousands more Border Patrol agents be hired and hundreds of miles of fencing along the frontier with Mexico be erected. After the government made progress in meeting those goals, in theory as soon as 18 months, the legislation would introduce a guest-worker program, allowing some immigrants into the country temporarily, and create a process providing many of the 12 million illegal immigrants a chance to earn permanent legal residency if they pay back taxes and penalties, pass criminal background checks, and return first to their country of origin.

The essence of the debate among Republicans centers on whether that constitutes amnesty, as critics maintain. Bush insists it does not because the illegal immigrants would have to pay for their actions first. "This bill is not an amnesty bill," he said in his speech here. "If you want to scare the American people, what you say is 'The bill's an amnesty bill.' It's not an amnesty bill. That's empty political rhetoric trying to frighten our fellow citizens."

Bush's speech at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center was his fullest defense of the immigration deal since it was reached two weeks ago, and his tone was striking. Although he did not single out whom he had in mind as he complained about scare tactics, the criticism he sought to rebut was that coming from his own party.

"I'm sure you've heard some of the talk out there about people defining the bill," he said in front of a huge U.S. flag and "Strengthen Our Borders" banners. "It's clear they haven't read the bill. They're speculating about what the bill says and they're trying to rile up people's emotions. This is a good piece of legislation."

For support, he brought with him two Cabinet secretaries and two senators, highlighting in particular Commerce Secretary Carlos M. Gutierrez and Sen. Mel Martinez (R-Fla.), both of whom were born in Cuba and emigrated to the United States. "I want to mention those two men," Bush said, "because to me they represent what the immigration debate is all about -- will we be a welcoming place, a place of law that renews our spirit by giving people a chance to succeed?"

Yet the text and setting were intended to emphasize not the welcoming but the tough elements of the plan, challenging the perception that the government has not done enough to crack down on illegal border crossings and employment of undocumented immigrants. The federal center here trains officers from 83 law enforcement agencies, including the Border Patrol, and Bush toured a mock land border crossing and a mock airport passport-control station.

For the benefit of cameras, he handed fake documents to a uniformed officer, who greeted him with "Welcome to the United States, sir." The trainee then asked him questions and received answers before fingerprinting and photographing the president and finally stamping his documents.

Bush has previously said that he knows he needs to get an immigration bill to his desk by August, before the 2008 presidential campaign would make it too hard to get a measure approved.

In recognition of that uphill fight, he used the word "courage" six times to describe what would be required for lawmakers to vote for his plan. And it was a measure of Bush's problems within his own party that the strongest voice of support he received Tuesday came from Kennedy, the arch-liberal and bête noire of American conservatism.

"The president is right that this bill is our best chance to fix our broken system," Kennedy said in a statement. He added: "Despite the clear urgency, there are forces at play that could hinder our efforts: bumper sticker slogans that aim to divide us further, strong feelings on the many sides of this issue, and a tendency to shelve these tough issues for another time."

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I think all the traitors should be run out of the country, they should not be allowed to enjoy the freedom of America any longer, do exactly what happen to whats him name from the phillipines, what was his name? remember his wife had all those shoes? They are stealing from America, Lying to Americans, and they are basically running our government behind closed doors and our back.

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

do exactly what happen to whats him name from the phillipines, what was his name? remember his wife had all those shoes?

Ferdinand and Imelda Marcos.

Originally Posted by Charlesoakisland

Bush and military service
In January 1968 Bush was set to graduate from Yale University, making him eligible for the draft and, in all likelihood, service in Vietnam. Bush sought entry into the officer corps of the Texas Air National Guard, which would minimise his chances of being dispatched to Vietnam. Despite scoring low on the entrance exam, Bush was accepted.

Just like he currently has a low understanding of illegal immigration impacts and national unity. Wasn't he given a "gentlemans C" average grade at Yale, which really means he has an average D intelligence level? And this idiot wants to decide the future of the US? God help us all.