Thread: NC: Berger urges SBCC to say no to illegal immigrants

Berger urges SBCC to say no to illegal immigrants
Posted in North Carolina by jhs on August 14th, 2008

“And there is the practical issue that illegal immigrants cannot legally be employed, so that training illegal immigrants for employment further encourages disrespect for our laws. “

How cogent.

If you agree with Sen. Phil Berger, R-Rockingham, please call at least two members of the State Board of Community Colleges and tell them as much: http://www.ncccs.cc.nc.us/State_Board/members.htm

Or call system president, Scott Ralls at 919-807-6950. Be nice to the receptionist.

From Berger’s press release:

[quote]“The people of North Carolina welcome all who obey the law and enter the United States through legal and established protocols. The laws of our nation and state, including those that address the integrity of our nation’s borders and our national sovereignty, must be respected and enforced. Legal residents and citizens should be able to take full advantage of the opportunities available through our community college system. North Carolina should not reward illegal immigrants with the privilege of attending taxpayer-supported community colleges. We need state policy and laws that discourage, not encourage, illegal immigration. Those who are here illegally should not be encouraged or rewarded by state government.â€

Letter I sent:

August 11, 2008

Mr. Richard Sullins
Executive Director of the NC State Board for Community Colleges
Sullinsr@nccommunitycolleges.edu
(919) 807-6969

Dear Mr. Sullins:

As a citizen of North Carolina, I am concerned with the possibility of the State Board allowing illegal aliens to attend our community colleges. It is violation of law that illegal aliens are allowed into colleges at all. I would argue that it is in violation of the 'aiding and abetting' statute in the 1986 IRCA (Immigration Reform and Control Act). Even if illegal aliens were to pay out of state tuition, it would not cover the entire cost of their education because of capital costs, often not figured fully into the total cost calculations per student. Therefore, taxpayer subsidization of illegal aliens would occur. Also, why would the Board allow an illegal alien to take a seat in college from a deserving American citizen or legal immigrant? Seats in all of our post-secondary facilities are a limited and highly coveted resource, so why would you put an illegal alien into one? Why should we be in the business of educating and training a group of people who are illegally here and cannot legally be employed? Could you unequivocally state and prove that not one single tax dollar would be used and not one single citizen or LEGAL immigrant would be affected by illegal aliens attending our community colleges?

Furthermore, the people of NC are opposed to allowing illegals to attend community college, as illustrated by the Civitas Institute Decision Maker Poll Results of NC voters:
- 68% of N.C. voters oppose allowing illegal immigrants to enroll in community colleges (February 200.

The statements you hear from advocates for illegal aliens in favor of them having access to our colleges generally flow around their claim that better educated illegals will be more productive and will assimilate better into our society. This is not only fuzzy thinking, it is faulty logic. It’s very precept is that the illegal gets additional benefits to what they have already enjoyed by illegally remaining and operating here and gives a segment of them what they want – unfettered access to our higher education system (in addition to our primary and secondary education system that they have already utilized). This, of course, will be costly to the American taxpayer whether the illegal pays out of state tuition or not. It also deprives a deserving citizen or legal immigrant of the seat that the illegal would occupy. Another marketing campaign is that a child should not be penalized because of the ‘sins’ of their parents. Allowing access to higher education, however, allows the child to benefit from the fact their parents broke the law and continue to remain here illegally.

I take exception to NCCCS reporting that only 112 illegal aliens are currently enrolled. This is a false and hollow number because it relies on self-reporting and not many illegal immigrants are going to truthfully report their immigration status. I do not believe the admissions office takes any action to investigate or determine status. The number is much larger than what you are officially reporting, and likely numbers in the thousands.

I request that the Board deny admitting illegal immigrants to our community colleges. To do any less is a slap in the face and a hit in the pocketbook to citizens, legal immigrants and their children. I will be following your actions closely and fully expect you to stand up for the rule of law and the LEGAL residents of North Carolina. Remember the definition of “illegalâ€

OH BOY! WHAT POWER THE PRESIDENT OF THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE HAS!

HUMBLE ONESELF TO HIM - US TAXPAYERS?

JUST SPOKE TO HIS OFFICE.... NICE; FACTUAL TO THE OFFICE WORKER.

"I HAVE LIVED IN CA AND I KNOW WHAT IT WILL DO TO OUR STATE IF WE PERMIT ILLEGALS INTO THE COLLEGE LEVEL, HERE IN NORTH CAROLINA. IT BROKE CALIFORNIA. COLLEGE WAS FREE AT ONE TIME IN CALIFORNIA. ALSO, IN-STATE TUITION SHOULD BE PROVIDED TO ALL THE UNITED STATES CITIZEN BEFORE IT IS GIVEN TO ILLEGALS."
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NORTH CAROLINA COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM:

TELEPHONE 919-807-7100

OPERATOR SENDS YOU TO A MESSAGE MACHINE.

This is a first draft of what I plan to send them:

I am extremely disturbed to hear there is even a whit of possibility that the board would consider deciding to allow illegals into North Carolina's community colleges.
I look at the American youngsters who will soon graduate, and so often hear excitement about their possibilities for the future with higher education to go out and compete in the job market. I would find it loathsome to believe these young Americans would need to compete, not only in the job market, but now in securing their education at community colleges, against those who have already broken America's laws by coming or being brought here illegally.
These young people are our future hope for this country. They have a right to a good education, and in your deliberations of the matter, please consider that above all other concerns.
Thank you for reading.

I am totally against illegals being admitted to the system, but I am more upset at a board with no backbone, who thinks throwing state monies at this by hiring a consultant is an effective solution. If they can't make the decision, we need better board members, not MORE consultants. If the board needs "greater clarity" at this point, where have they been during this entire process? As board members, it is THEIR clarity of this issue they need to bring to the citizens of this state, not some third party consultant. The board needs to do its homework before running for the hills and hiding behind some consultant.

My letter to Mr. Ralls, who was kind enough to respond at 7am this morning.

Mr. Ralls,

The Citizens of North Carolina need a board with enough backbone to make a decision on the issue of illegal immigrants, whether it be pro or con. Hiring an outside consultant is an admission of the boards' unwillingness and/or inability to do the job they are tasked with. They are the supposed experts who should have enough of a global view of the system to bring their wisdom and insight to the fore, as well as the backbone to stand by their decision, whatever that decision may be.

Sluffing the issue off on a consultant to take the eventual heat ANY decision brings is a waste of resources, and highly irresponsible of the board in my opinion.

Please vote AGAINST this waste of taxpayer monies, and encourage the board to do the job they have been tasked with. They are the ones who are responsible for this decision. If they can't make it, then we need better board members at the SBCC, not more consultants draining an already precious resource pool.

Sincerely

SC
Raleigh, NC
1983 Graduate of Wilkes Community College


Mr. Ralls was kind enought to respond:

I appreciate youur (sic) comments, but I also understand the perspective Board members have of wanting greater clarity of a complex issue prior to making long_term policy change. I am not a member of the Board, and do not have a vote, but I will share your perspective with the leadership.

WELCOME- WELCOME Argentphil:

I am totally happy that you found us at ALIPAC.
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