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    The immigration factor in McCain's reelection fight

    The immigration factor in McCain's reelection fight
    Since taking a harder line on illegal immigration, the Arizona senator's future may hinge on whether voters see him as honest or opportunistic.


    By Mark Z. Barabak, Los Angeles Times

    June 8, 2010

    Reporting from Mesa, Ariz. —
    As a candidate for president, Republican John McCain lamented his party's tough talk on illegal immigration. "In the long term, if you alienate the Hispanics, you'll pay a heavy price," he told a group of Milwaukee businessmen in October 2006.

    Back then, some strongly favored walling off the U.S.- Mexico border to address the problem, but not McCain. "I think the fence is least effective," the Arizona senator said.

    Lately, however, McCain has transformed himself from a champion of broad-based reform — who spoke of illegal immigrants as "God's children," deserving of love and compassion — into a fierce advocate for the kind of crackdown he once scorned.

    In a recent TV ad, McCain blamed illegal immigrants for all manner of problems facing his state: "smuggling, home invasions, murder." It is time, he said, for Washington to "complete the danged fence."

    Facing his toughest reelection fight in years, McCain's future may hinge on whether voters see him as honest or opportunistic.

    Old allies are dismayed. "Someone who was a visionary ... has gone from being very large to very, very small," said Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez (D-Ill.), who worked with McCain and the late Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Edward M. Kennedy on a bipartisan immigration overhaul bill.

    Old foes are dismissive. Among them is former Rep. J.D. Hayworth, McCain's main rival in the August primary and a longtime adversary. "An election-year conversion," Hayworth said.

    The more important verdict, however, rests with voters like Linda Stapley-Williams, 60, a retired high school teacher and GOP activist in Mesa. She wonders: "Did he change his position as he was exposed to new information? Because that can be an admirable thing. Or did he change his opinion because the outcry was so overwhelming and there was no way he was going to get reelected if he didn't?"

    McCain — who holds a comfortable, if not overwhelming, lead in polls — declined to be interviewed. Last month he told the Arizona Republic it was "a political ploy" to say he changed his immigration stance.

    For years, McCain criticized Washington for failing to control the border, pushed for stiffer law enforcement and worked to pry federal dollars loose to help Arizona pay the costs of illegal immigration. But that was only part of the solution, he said many times.

    "Congress cannot take a piecemeal approach to a national security crisis," McCain said in a Senate floor speech in September 2006. "I believe the only way to truly secure our border and protect our nation is through the enactment of comprehensive immigration reform."

    Working with Democrats, McCain introduced an enforcement bill in 2005 that included a guest-worker program and a provision allowing citizenship for illegal immigrants who learned English, paid a fine, underwent background checks and waited several years before seeking permanent residence.

    The legislation was strongly backed by President George W. Bush and passed the Senate with bipartisan support. But the measure drew fierce criticism from grass-roots Republicans angry at what they considered amnesty. The bill was killed in the House.

    Even so, McCain's coauthorship continues to antagonize many back home.

    On a recent hot afternoon, a group of seven GOP women gathered in Mesa over cold drinks to talk about McCain. All were pleased with his harder line, including support for Arizona's stringent new law against illegal immigration — though some found him more believable than others. None would consider voting for McCain had he not repudiated the 2005 immigration bill.

    "That's a deal-breaker," said Sharon Giese, 63, one of two Arizona representatives on the Republican National Committee. Others nodded.

    Mesa typifies the changes in Arizona over the last decade or so, with its explosive growth and influx of Latinos. Once a far-off satellite of Phoenix, Mesa has become the state's third-most populous city, with about 460,000 residents. (That's more than Cleveland or Miami.)

    Much of the community has the feel of an upscale oasis. Broad streets, laid out in the grid pattern favored by Mesa's Mormon founders, are lined with tidy subdivisions and earth-toned shopping centers, a cool mist drifting from the red-tile rooftops.

    But the heavily Latino neighborhoods near downtown show all the signs of incipient urban decay: empty homes, slashes of graffiti, bars on windows, weeds poking through cracked sidewalks.

    Mesa's Latino population soared over the last decade, three times faster than the total population, to more than 115,000 residents. Today, 1 in 4 people living in Mesa is Latino, up from 1 in 5 in 2000, according to Tony Sissons, a Phoenix demographics expert.

    But the Republican women were adamant their support for tough border enforcement has nothing to do with race. Rather, they said, it has everything to do with following the law.

    "I feel for the people in Mexico because I know they want the best for the families," said Heather Sandstrom, 52, a retired TV newscaster. "I think it's great if they want to immigrate here.... We'd love to have you. But do it legally."

    McCain used to say the same thing. In recent months, however, he has made the kind of provocative statements he once condemned. Instead of lamenting the "human tragedy" of illegal border-crossers dying in the desert, as he did in 2008, he accuses undocumented foreigners of deliberately crashing into other cars — apparently so they can flee when pursuing officers stop to tend accident victims.

    "Arizona is under siege in many respects," McCain said in a recent Fox News appearance. "We have broken borders. We have people flooding across. We have drug cartels inflicting incredible damage."

    In fact, statistics suggest that Arizona is safer than it was in the 1990s, when the tide of illegal immigration began to surge. New FBI figures rate Phoenix as one of the four safest big cities in America. From 2008 to 2009, data show, violent and property crimes fell nearly 9% in Mesa and surrounding suburbs.

    For many, however, the numbers don't compute; the news is filled with crime stories linked to suspected illegal immigration or drug trafficking: the killing of a cattle rancher near the Mexico border, the shooting of a sheriff's deputy in Pinal County.

    The Republican women lamented the changes they have seen over the last few years: more day laborers hustling on more street corners, schools increasingly burdened by children who can't speak English, hospitals filled with illegal immigrants receiving free medical care.

    "It's just not fair," said retiree Carol Jacobsen, 71, who moved to Arizona from the Midwest in 2001. "They're getting a free ride."

    In 2007, McCain and Kennedy tried to reach agreement on a new immigration bill. By then, McCain was seeking the GOP presidential nomination and being pummeled for his immigration stance; his campaign nearly collapsed that summer, about the same time overhaul efforts died on Capitol Hill.

    Although McCain rallied to win the nomination, the outcry convinced him that border security had to be addressed before other steps could be considered.

    Some who worked with McCain on comprehensive legislation hope he will resume talks once the election is past. (Assuming he wins.) "I don't think this has staying power with him, mentally or in his heart," Gutierrez said of McCain's current position.

    That's what worries Son Hee Williamson, who emigrated — legally, she stresses — from South Korea nearly 40 years ago. She likes the senator's tougher approach to illegal immigration. "But I don't know if he's going to keep that promise" if reelected, the GOP activist said.

    She is still deciding who to support in August.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... full.story
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    Mccain is no different then Obama. Hayworth will be the far more better choice come next election term in Arizona. Hayworth is the true conservative and Mccain is just a liberal who wants to keep his job. I hope more people wake up to the fact that Mccain is not a conservative and is failure when it comes to securing our border. Let us not forget that Mccain wanted amnesty and he also is the one who got the liberals drooling all over themselves when he came up with the slogan gun show loop hole.

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    McCain has been in office too long and has since been bought off by lobbyists for big business and other special interest groups

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    AFTER READING THIS ALL I CAN SAY IS, I HOPE THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA DON'T BUY THESE WOLF TICKETS THAT McCAIN IS SELLING. HE IS JUST SAYING WHAT HE KNOWS THEY WANT TO HEAR. IMO, HE IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED

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    The minute McCain knows he has the re election in hand they will become Gods children again and all bets are off. Wake up Arizona, your future and the future of the USA depends on McCain being defeated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave-co
    The minute McCain knows he has the re election in hand they will become Gods children again and all bets are off. Wake up Arizona, your future and the future of the USA depends on McCain being defeated
    WELCOME DAVE-CO, AND I AGREE WITH YOU. THIS MAN IS NOTHING BUT A SHEEP IN LAMBS CLOTHING. I DON'T TRUST HIM ANY FURTHER THAN I CAN SPIT ON HIM THERE IS A LOT OF CORRUPTION IN OUR GOVERNMENT AND HE IS ONE OF THE CORRUPT ONES.

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    Lately, however, McCain has transformed himself from a champion of broad-based reform — who spoke of illegal immigrants as "God's children," deserving of love and compassion — into a fierce advocate for the kind of crackdown he once scorned.
    McCain is a deciever and there is NOTHING honest about this man...
    don't be fooled Arizona! Get rid of him and elect the one who will fight for Americans... JD HAYWORTH!
    Please help save America for our children and grandchildren... they are counting on us. THEY DESERVE the goodness of AMERICA not to be given to those who are stealing our children's future! ... and a congress who works for THEM!
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    Wow, are people in AZ really this stupid, this gullible, this naive? This man means nothing of what he says and is just saying this crap to get reelected. Nothing more. He is nothing, but a career politician. I refuse to believe that after two plus decades of blatantly supporting amnesty and blatantly thumbing his nose at any hint of strong border security and enforcement that all of a sudden now that he's in danger of losing his seat that he has finally seen the light. BS, as soon as he gets reelect it will be business as usual with this sociopath. How can people so easily allow themselves to be deceived by these snake oil salesman? Look at his voting record. Even if he really has seen the light which I truly 100 percent don't believe to be the case, so what? I say too late, you have had two plus decades in office to do something about this issue and all you have done is give the American people and the citizens of AZ the middle finger.

    This pathetic excuse of a man has no shame. He can rot in hell with his life partner Ted Kennedy.
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