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    N.C. - Politicians kick it away

    Politicians kick it away

    Saturday, Jun. 21, 2008 3:00 am

    Illegal immigration is a political football in the General Assembly, and most legislators are punters.

    One question that requires a clear answer is whether illegal immigrants should be allowed to attend state universities and community colleges. At the moment, confusion abounds. The community college system has changed its policy twice in less than a year: first no, then yes, then no again. The governor says yes, but the attorney general says no. The Democratic and Republican candidates for governor say no.

    What the legislature says is important. It should decide, on behalf of the people of the state, who is eligible to attend their institutions of higher learning.

    But the legislature won't say. Bills have been filed allowing or prohibiting admission of illegal immigrants, yet only a minority of legislators has signed on to support either one. The bills have been sent to committees where no action has been taken. And nothing is likely to happen.

    So, a few legislators are willing to run the ball one way or the other on this issue. Good for them. They were elected to make tough decisions, just as football players suit up so they can get in the game. But most legislators would rather punt the ball away. Why put on helmets and shoulder pads if they want to avoid contact?

    Some of those on the sidelines blame Washington for the difficulties states face. They're right. Lax border security and weak enforcement of immigration laws give states like North Carolina large undocumented populations. States are required by a U.S. Supreme Court decision to provide public education for the children of illegal immigrants. There's no such order for higher education, but some state leaders, like Gov. Mike Easley, conclude that it doesn't make sense to deny qualified graduates of North Carolina high schools the opportunity to advance to a state university or community college and become a more productive member of society.

    But that's where federal law raises another barrier: Even with a college degree, illegal immigrants aren't entitled to employment in the United States. Until that changes, affording them space in our colleges and universities that could be used for legal residents isn't a wise policy.

    Congress owes a solution. It should allow otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants a chance to pay a penalty in return for a place in line for legal status. That would give their noncitizen children an opportunity to attend college.

    For now, however, the legislature should reserve seats in state colleges and universities for legal residents. There's been too much punting already on immigration issues.

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    Here in NC we have a chicken!!!t governor and a chicken!!!t legislature . They are not going to do anything about illegal aliens in our state . What is the point of swearing an oath if you do not live by that oath . And on top of it all they swore to God that they would serve the interest of the people of NC . Can these people be sued civily for not upholding their oath of office . They were civilians before the swearing in . Just a thought from a frustrated North Carolinian . Hawk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk
    Here in NC we have a chicken!!!t governor and a chicken!!!t legislature . They are not going to do anything about illegal aliens in our state . What is the point of swearing an oath if you do not live by that oath . And on top of it all they swore to God that they would serve the interest of the people of NC . Can these people be sued civily for not upholding their oath of office . They were civilians before the swearing in . Just a thought from a frustrated North Carolinian . Hawk
    North Carolina Pro-Illegal Legislators - they would enjoy hearing from you:

    Almaa@ncleg.net; Kellya@ncleg.net; Marthaa@ncleg.net; Lucya@ncleg.net; larryb@ncleg.net; Danb@ncleg.net; Aliceb@ncleg.net; Vanb@ncleg.net; Williambr@ncleg.net; Angelab@ncleg.net; Beckyc@ncleg.net; Waltc@ncleg.net; Lorenec@ncleg.net; Nelsonc@ncleg.net; Triciac@ncleg.net; Jimcr@ncleg.net; Margaretd@ncleg.net; Beverlye@ncleg.net; Bobe@ncleg.net; Jeanf@ncleg.net; Pryorg@ncleg.net; Bruceg@ncleg.net; Melanieg@ncleg.net; Joeh@ncleg.net; Philliph@ncleg.net; Larryh@ncleg.net; Jimha@ncleg.net; Tyh@ncleg.net; Deweyh@ncleg.net; Hughh@ncleg.net; Sandrah@ncleg.net; Maggiej@ncleg.net; Jimmyl@ncleg.net; Grierm@ncleg.net; Marymc@ncleg.net; Marianm@ncleg.net; Mickeym@ncleg.net; Anniem@ncleg.net; Billo@ncleg.net; Garlandp@ncleg.net; Raymondr@ncleg.net; Deborahr@ncleg.net; Drews@ncleg.net; Tims@ncleg.net; Rons@ncleg.net; Culliet@ncleg.net; Joet@ncleg.net; Russellt@ncleg.net; Aliceu@ncleg.net; Williamw@ncleg.net; Edithw@ncleg.net; Rayw@ncleg.net; Winkiew@ncleg.net; Arthurw@ncleg.net; Larryw@ncleg.net; Michaelw@ncleg.net; Douglasy@ncleg.net

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    Welcome to ALIPAC Hawk and Buzz!

    I just wanted to add that during my visit to the General Assembly last week I was told by a couple of legislators that the Democrats bury the illegal immigrant bills in committee simply to avoid allowing a vote on them. It was explained that if the bills made it to the floor they would pass easily, but the Dems keep them sequestered in committee so they cannot be compelled to go on record as supporting illegal immigration so close to election time.

    In the previous post buzzm1 aptly provided a list of email contacts of those who need some assistance coming to a speedy and rational decision on action that could be taken during the remaining short session of the General Assembly. I still say our lobbying efforts last week can be seen as the tip of the spear if everyone invests the time to email and call this group tomorrow in support of the message we just delivered to their very doorstep.

    It would also be helpful if you sent in letters to the editor or other such contributions to your local North Carolina publications this week shining a spotlight on the misdeeds of these elected officials. Saturate the state with kudos for those who are doing their jobs and public condemnation for those who are attempting to "punt"! Remember, for every one person you educate on this political jerrymandering, a dozen more end up hearing about it from them. Call-ins to talk radio shows would also be a useful tool if you have the opportunity!

    Don't waste this opportunity to shine the spotlight on a few cockroaches! You just never know, you may miraculously turn them into butterflies in the final days before the election cycle begins!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzm1
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk
    Here in NC we have a chicken!!!t governor and a chicken!!!t legislature . They are not going to do anything about illegal aliens in our state . What is the point of swearing an oath if you do not live by that oath . And on top of it all they swore to God that they would serve the interest of the people of NC . Can these people be sued civily for not upholding their oath of office . They were civilians before the swearing in . Just a thought from a frustrated North Carolinian . Hawk
    North Carolina Pro-Illegal Legislators - they would enjoy hearing from you:

    Almaa@ncleg.net; Kellya@ncleg.net; Marthaa@ncleg.net; Lucya@ncleg.net; larryb@ncleg.net; Danb@ncleg.net; Aliceb@ncleg.net; Vanb@ncleg.net; Williambr@ncleg.net; Angelab@ncleg.net; Beckyc@ncleg.net; Waltc@ncleg.net; Lorenec@ncleg.net; Nelsonc@ncleg.net; Triciac@ncleg.net; Jimcr@ncleg.net; Margaretd@ncleg.net; Beverlye@ncleg.net; Bobe@ncleg.net; Jeanf@ncleg.net; Pryorg@ncleg.net; Bruceg@ncleg.net; Melanieg@ncleg.net; Joeh@ncleg.net; Philliph@ncleg.net; Larryh@ncleg.net; Jimha@ncleg.net; Tyh@ncleg.net; Deweyh@ncleg.net; Hughh@ncleg.net; Sandrah@ncleg.net; Maggiej@ncleg.net; Jimmyl@ncleg.net; Grierm@ncleg.net; Marymc@ncleg.net; Marianm@ncleg.net; Mickeym@ncleg.net; Anniem@ncleg.net; Billo@ncleg.net; Garlandp@ncleg.net; Raymondr@ncleg.net; Deborahr@ncleg.net; Drews@ncleg.net; Tims@ncleg.net; Rons@ncleg.net; Culliet@ncleg.net; Joet@ncleg.net; Russellt@ncleg.net; Aliceu@ncleg.net; Williamw@ncleg.net; Edithw@ncleg.net; Rayw@ncleg.net; Winkiew@ncleg.net; Arthurw@ncleg.net; Larryw@ncleg.net; Michaelw@ncleg.net; Douglasy@ncleg.net
    I JUST EMAILED ALL OF THEM!! THANK YOU FOR THE LIST. IT MADE MY EVENING. UNBELIEVABLE AT HOW MANY THERE ARE FOR IT! INSANITY. THEY ARE GIVING AWAY THAT STATE TO THE INVADERS. CALL IT IGNORANCE OR CALL IT TREASON. SO SAD FOR THE TRUE CITIZENS OF NC. I WILL PRAY.

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