Thread: Patriots Hold Trumps Feet to the Fire

Patriots, Hold Trump’s Feet to the Fire

I am heart sick and I am furious. I worked my ass off for Trump as probably have the great majority of people here on ALIPAC. Trump made a promise to us about rescinding DACA. We made great personal sacrifices in time and money because we trusted him to keep his word. Now he has stated he is going to break that promise. Nobody will become a fiercer enemy than someone who has been betrayed, and it appears he is going to betray us. He doesn’t get to change his mind, not on this issue. I don’t give a crap whatever else he may do. Of all the issues, stopping all illegal immigration is the most important. If they get to stay that is amnesty because that is the reason they came here, to stay and take our resources for themselves. Amnesty means a near future, perpetual Democrat domination of politics and the future nullification of every conservative victory. Deportation is not subject to modifications or negotiations. THEY MUST LEAVE, EVERY DAMN LAST ONE OF THEM!

And if I hear “having a heart” used to justify not enforcing our immigration laws one more time, I am going to scream with an endless torrent of profanities. We Americans have been screwed over for decades by foreigners who sneak into our home and become permanent squatters. Keeping the DACA program will sabotage efforts to end that travesty.

I don’t want to hear about their kids. What about our kids who are getting screwed for the benefit their kids? Our kids, who have had the quality of their education reduced because huge sums of tax money are diverted to educate alien kids, and there is less time with a doctor because he also had to spend time treating some alien kid. And the diseases our kids were exposed to and infected with because they had to go to school with alien kids who should not be here, and the hospital emergency rooms closed, and on and on.

The opportunities for employment our kids never had and will not have because some illegal alien got there first. The cute dress for our daughter or cool jacket for our son we could not afford or the family trip to Disneyland that never happened because the money for those things was taken from us in higher taxes to provide benefits for the kids of some alien squatter.

If these supposed children are going to suffer a hardship due to deportation, it is a result of the irresponsible behavior of their parents who brought them here. Deportation is a problem their parents made. Now all of a sudden it is my problem and I am expected to make it all better by undermining the critical laws that preserver our sovereignty and thus assure our existence as a nation – no, hell no. It’s not my fault; I didn’t bring them here-- remember? The welfare of those children is the responsibility of their parents it is not mine. Why am I now expected to sacrifice and clean up the mess their parents created?

Remember this is not an issue of charity. Charity is a voluntary act of compassion; the benefits illegal aliens receive are paid with tax money confiscated from our income; neither the amount nor the recipient is directly in our control.

Social Security has been called the “the third rail” issue every politician is afraid to touch. We need to work like hell to make the complete end of illegal immigration Donald Trump’s “third rail issue.”

Please, patriots call the white House and keep calling, nag Trump endlessly until he signs an executive order repealing the fraud called DACA, and another order making E-Verify mandatory.

White House comments phone 202 456 1414 and call your senators and congressmen telling them to put the heat on Trump to do it.

There can be no amnesty, there can be no "legalization" of any kind for any illegal alien. DACA should be stopped as soon as possible. If the plan is to let it expire on its own terms in June, rather than do something now that causes more lawsuits or court challenges, I'm okay with that. But the end game, whatever it is, must be an end to DACA, either by termination or expiration.

A great many Americans are heart sick, 17patri76. Allowing DACA, extending DACA is a promise broken that will lead to continued pandering, continued lawbreaking. The heart of the President should be for the American people who have carried the burdens associated with illegal immigration. His heart should be for the citizens who elected him, to follow through on Americans First and Hire American.

Americans are victims every day through no fault of their own from illegal immigration. Where are the gifts, the rewards for enduring their hardships from illegal aliens and their families.

Donald Trump is another amnesty President.

Trump hasn't extended DACA, GeorgiaPeach. The last statement from the White House on what they're going to do with DACA, was by Sean Spicer who said at the press conference a month or so ago, they were going to let it expire in June of this year. Every effort needs to be taken to avoid doing anything that would push DACA 2012 to the courts, because we'll lose and lose big-time, not because we're wrong, but because the US Supreme Court has been wrong every single time on the issue of immigration. And it won't change one iota with Gorsuch on the Supreme Court. The vote will either be 5-4 with Roberts voting with the liberals, or 6-3 with Gorsuch voting with Roberts, or 7-2 with Kennedy voting with Roberts and Gorsuch.

That's where we are. That's the reality of our situation. We're screwed if DACA goes to the US Supreme Court.

Trying to push Trump into an action that will trigger thousands of lawsuits that will go to the US Supreme Court seems terribly unwise to me.

Thanks for posting this! You said what thousands (if not millions) of us are feeling. I am sickened by this decree, WE have been forced to finance their entire existence here. You're exactly right, Mommy and Daddy KNEW what they were doing it's not our responsibility to keep footing their bills. OUR family's are suffering and their families are thriving, not to mention growing!

DACA has to end. Hopefully, it will end in June of this year when it expires. That's when the 3 year Obama renewal of the DACA 2012 supposedly ends by its own terms and can do so without lawsuits.

Originally Posted by Judy

Trump hasn't extended DACA, GeorgiaPeach. The last statement from the White House on what they're going to do with DACA, was by Sean Spicer who said at the press conference a month or so ago, they were going to let it expire in June of this year. Every effort needs to be taken to avoid doing anything that would push DACA 2012 to the courts, because we'll lose and lose big-time, not because we're wrong, but because the US Supreme Court has been wrong every single time on the issue of immigration. And it won't change one iota with Gorsuch on the Supreme Court. The vote will either be 5-4 with Roberts voting with the liberals, or 6-4 with Gorsuch voting with Roberts, or 7-3 with Kennedy voting with Roberts and Gorsuch.

That's where we are. That's the reality of our situation. We're screwed if DACA goes to the US Supreme Court.

Trying to push Trump into an action that will trigger thousands of lawsuits that will go to the US Supreme Court seems terribly unwise to me.

Hi Judy! I "meant extending it" in reference to new applications being accepted every day. This is President Trump's amnesty for the new recipients and renewals. That is allowing thousands, about 90,000 or more illegal aliens getting the DACA amnesty coverage by now under the Trump Administration since the election per averages. Those new applications and renewals should have never occurred and then the unconstitutional DACA program would have died the appropriate death over time as each recipient's 2 year period expired.

As you point out it would be challenged in court but the President ending it by memo and letting it expire would not have added the additional @100,000 new illegal aliens to fight against us. I mentioned this before, Plyer vs. Doe would be a fight, too, but we must do something. It is all out of control.

We know Attorney General Sessions is against DACA as well as Stephen Miller, Kris Kobach. Not allowing new applications would be some step toward honoring the promise to end it.

Dying without lawsuits would be good but these people want the drama, the lawsuits, the photo ops, the name calling to get their way.

Oh thank you for the clarification GeorgiaPeach!! Yes, I wish they could/would just stop signing more up, but here's the catch which I'm sure they've considered, that would be a change to the 3 year renewal terms of the DACA 2012 MEMO Directive and the Renewal that occurred in 2015 that renewed the program that now expires this year. The court, Judge Hanen, was clear in his ruling that the DACA 2012 would continue in full force as renewed except with only 2 year work authorizations. So, our enemies who are also Trump's enemies would wail, Trump violated the Hanen Ruling, file lawsuits and there you are back in the fray of a DACA case going to the US Supreme Court and we'll lose that case.