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Here is the basic outline:
1) Amnesty for 1.8 Million Illegal Alien "Dreamers"
2) A Trust Fund for securing both borders
3) Chain Migration for nuclear family
4) Reallocate Visas from Visa Lottery
Senator Jeff Flake is excited but concerned hardliners will cause problems.
Reoresentative Kevin McCarthy indicates likely support.
Chad Pergram
@ChadPergram
WH gives CapHill details on plan to bolster border security, legalize DACA, "protect the nuclear family" by curbing chain migration (spouses/minor children only) & eliminate lottery. Skills, merit, public safety is key.
Chad Pergram
@ChadPergram
WH offers DACA/immigration plan, briefing GOP CapHill staff. WH would provide pathway to citizenship for 1.8 million people, including those who signed up for DACA (650,000). Plan would ask for $25 billion for wall. $5 bill for additional security.
NO DACA for 1.8 million.
NO CHAIN MIGRATION!
White House Comment Line:202-456-1111
Thank you Captainron for the number. I called. It said to call between 9am-4pm. Will do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captainron
THIS HAD BETTER BE VERY, VERY, VERY FAKE NEWS!
NO AMNESTY
NO PATH TO STAY!
TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF THE FOREIGN AID BUDGET AND BUILD THE WALL!
We know the number of illegal aliens included is not true.
President Trump is still wrestling with the parents of the dreamers he said. Will there be a phase two?
It's not fake news. But the question would be whether this would realistically happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beezer
I don't think Trump is very effective as a political leader---and a lot of Presidents aren't---so it is really up to who is the strongest organizer in the chambers. It may be that any immigration bill just doesn't make it very far. I think it is likely for Republicans to pick up more Senate seats, barring some overblown media hype that sabotages them, so next year might see better chances of toughening up the laws.
He could probably use drug cartel funds, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beezer
This is exactly what I'm counting on Captainron. But in the meantime, we still need to fight and bitch and moan about this treachery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captainron
White House jumps back into Dreamer battle with citizenship offer
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The White House proposal would establish a $25 billion trust fund for a border defense system, including a wall along the Mexican border — a key campaign promise made by President Donald Trump. | Olivier Douliery-Pool/Getty Images
The White House is hoping to woo Democrats by offering protection to undocumented immigrants in exchange for border wall funding — and sharp restrictions on family reunification.
By RACHAEL BADE, BURGESS EVERETT and LORRAINE WOELLERT
01/25/2018 04:53 PM EST
Updated 01/25/2018 05:50 PM EST
The White House plans to present an immigration reform plan to Congress that would satisfy a key Democratic demand — offering a path to citizenship for 1.8 million undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children — in exchange for dramatic restrictions on immigration going forward and a $25 billion fund for border security.
In a call with Republican Hill staffers Thursday afternoon, senior White House adviser Stephen Miller outlined a one-page framework that he said represented “a compromise position that we believe… will get 60 votes in the Senate” and “a framework that ultimately will lead to passage of a law.”
But Democrats and immigration activists may be quick to reject that characterization, and the president's proposal is sure to complicate bipartisan Senate negotiations.
“I welcome when he says the right thing. But I know the next day he might be 180 degrees different," said Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) in an interview. "We’ve got to get him to sign something right after he says the right thing."
And Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), a longtime immigrant advocate, immediately slammed the plan in a tweet: "$25 billion as ransom for Dreamers with cuts to legal immigration and increases to deportations doesn’t pass the laugh test."
Miller, an immigration hard-liner, told Republican staffers that the White House proposal would establish a $25 billion trust fund for a border defense system, including a wall along the Mexican border — a key campaign promise made by President Donald Trump that he has repeatedly indicated must be included in a final deal. That money would also go toward technology and security at the Canadian border.
The framework also eliminates the visa lottery and curbs U.S. migration by extended families, a fundamental change to existing immigration policy. New citizens would be able to sponsor their immediate families — spouses and children — to legally enter the country, but other relatives would be excluded. The administration would continue to allow people who have already applied for entry to be processed under the old system.
The White House will also ask for additional money to hire more U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents as well as immigration judges, attorneys and prosecutors. And the administration will propose closing what the official called legal “loopholes” that “make it almost impossible to deport those immigrants who show up illegally.”
As a sweetener to Democrats, the White House plan would allow an estimated 1.8 million so-called Dreamers, young immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children, to apply for legal status, remain in the country, and possibly seek citizenship. That’s more than double the roughly 700,000 people protected under President Barack Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals policy, or DACA.
House Republicans had been waiting for the White House to deliver its own proposal, though some conservatives may balk at eventually providing citizenship to undocumented immigrants. Indeed, a competing House plan does not include citizenship as a possibility. And even No. 2 GOP Sen. John Cornyn’s staff in an immigration negotiation as recently as two weeks ago pushed back on the notion of allowing Dreamers to earn citizenship.
"This is the beginning of the end of the GOP majority in the House," said one GOP staffer on the call. "In a year when the Democrats impeach Trump, we can point to this moment."
Trump re-injected himself into the immigration debate Wednesday, stopping into a background briefing with reporters to say that he supported a path to citizenship for Dreamers “over a period of 10 to 12 years.”
Miller called that element of the proposal “the most substantial concession” from the White House to Democrats.
“The president has indicated a willingness to extend citizenship to 1.8 million individuals as part of this immigration reform package,” he said. “That would be the DACA population, plus individuals who failed to apply for DACA but otherwise met the requirements, as well as adjustments in timeframe that would bring the total maximum population size to 1.8 million.”
Before the president's proposal was made public, there was a feeling of cautious optimism among a growing bipartisan group of senators, which continued meeting on Thursday. Developed ahead of the government shutdown, the clutch of several dozen senators is now morphing into an immigration discussion group.
And those senators say that while they welcome Trump’s input, they aren’t going to try to triangulate a bill based on what they think he will eventually sign. That means the framework that the White House formally sends over on Monday may not dictate where the Senate starts in February, when Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has pledged to hold an immigration debate.
“The Senate needs to be the Senate,” said Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.). Trump’s latest set of concepts is “input, but it’s input from one person. That’s input from one branch of government.”
“We’ll have to interact with the president. The Senate needs to lead. We’re trying to get 70 votes. If you get 70 votes in the Senate, it helps with the House and the president,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said.
Changes to the legal immigration system are likely to face the stiffest resistance from Democrats. While they don't want to provide money for Trump's wall, it may not be a deal-breaker.
“I don’t think that’s the best way to spend money but look if I can get protection for Dreamers, I’m prepared to do some things that I don’t think are exactly the best,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.)
Separate from the bipartisan group, senior Republican senators are meeting among themselves to plot a more conservative approach than is likely to emerge from the bipartisan group. And some in the GOP argue that looking at the Senate as a silo will ultimately backfire.
“At the end of the day, our success is not getting a bill voted out of the Senate. It’s getting a bill to the president’s desk,” said Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.). in an interview.
Trump has already complicated the immigration talks significantly. First he told a large group of Congress members earlier this month to send him something to sign, then two days later rejected a deal cut by Graham and Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.).
And now, after a few days out of the debate, Trump has reinserted himself. That could be bad news for senators who were banking on Trump supporting whatever can get 60 votes in the Senate.
Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.), who spoke to Trump this week on immigration, said that he has not heard Trump to commit to signing something simply because it gets strong support from the Senate.
“This is an engaged president,” Perdue said.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...million-369457
Lou Dobbs says this would give annesty up to 5 million plus. He calls it a monster. Nothing in this suggests that we would control our borders with trust fund. Lou says ths is more like Trump"s opponent.
Representative Andy Biggs, guest, says tht he is stunned by this.
That's good, we need people like him to beat some sense into Traitor Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach
White House Proposal Extends Amnesty for 1.8 Million Illegals in Exchange for 25 Billion for Wall, End of Chain Migration, Visa Lottery
by CHARLIE SPIERING25 Jan 2018
The White House revealed a proposal to extend legal status and a path for citizenship for 1.8 million illegal immigrants brought to the country as children in exchange for $25 billion in funding for the wall, an end to chain migration across the board, and an end to the visa lottery program.
The bill’s framework would apply to the roughly 690,000 illegal immigrants who registered for the DACA program started by former President Barack Obama as well as illegal immigrants who did not apply. A senior administration official told reporters that the 1.8 million number would be restricted by minor adjustments to timeframes and dates of entry issues.
“The argument is by some people in Congress is that there is another 690,000 roughly that never got around to registering but fall into the general category, age, and all the rest of it,” the official said. “Those combined come to 1.8 million.”
The previously rejected DREAM Act in the Senate and proposals from Sen. Lindsey Graham and Sen. Dick Durbin tried to offer legalization for 1.7 million illegal immigrants.
The path to citizenship would require a 10-12 year period where recipients would be required to demonstrate good behavior, work and education requirements, and good moral character.
A senior White House official described the plan as an “extraordinarily generous concession” with Democrats but made several demands considered non-starters by members of Congress supporting amnesty.
The White House said that it intended to send the framework to Senate Majority Mitch McConnell, who promised Democrats a vote on the Senate floor by February 8.
The framework includes a $25 billion lump sum “trust fund” for a border security “wall system” for not only the Southern border but major security investments on the Northern border as well.
It also includes sweeping limitations for chain migration — limiting family immigration sponsorships to only spouses and minor children — not for parents or extended family members.
The new migration limitations would apply to all immigrants in the United States, not just the newly legalized 1.8 million.
“It will never, ever, ever, ever, work unless it’s universal,” the official noted. “It’s a global change to the U.S. immigration system.”
The bill framework was described as an effort to show exactly what the president wanted in a bill after open borders advocates complained that they had no idea where the president stood in their negotiations.
The proposal would also end the visa lottery program and reallocate them towards fulfilling the skills-based visa backlog.
The official noted that the current legislation was “galaxies apart” from what Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer discussed with Trump over lunch before the government shutdown, but felt that it was a plan that could get 60 votes in the Senate.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...-visa-lottery/
A TERRIBLE proposal.
The amnesty up front with all the meager benefits later (i.e. likely never, just like in 1986)
Lou Dobbs also stated that it may disappoint tens of millions of those who voted for President Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6 Million Dollar Man
Sebastian Gorka shakes his head about this. They should never receive citizenship.
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No doubt that Jeb Bush would be supportive of this "act of love" by President Trump for millions of illegal aliens.
Our new DACA Amnesty Knock Out Plan!
https://www.alipac.us/f8/our-new-dac...t-plan-354962/
Our new DACA Amnesty Knock Out Plan!
https://www.alipac.us/f8/our-new-dac...t-plan-354962/
Ann Coulter
@AnnCoulter
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Why is it so hard to 1) enforce federal law; & 2) keep campaign promises? twitter.com/dmartosko/stat…
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Mark Krikorian
@MarkSKrikorian
A "hard-line" bill would not extend even work permits to DACAs, & would end birthright citizenship, abolish cheap-labor guestworker scams for #H1b's & farm workers, & end visas for spouses&kids of green card holders. Goodlatte bill doesn't do any of that.
Take heart American patriots! The news and moments are dark! But we the people and the American Spirit are not broken! We
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FOX News Special Report with Bret Baier:
The House GOP members are not happy with the White House immigration plan.
Stephen Miller was on a call with Republicans. There was a "heated exchange."
Related:
WH Plan: Big Amnesty Now, Nothing for Americans Until 2027
Mark Krikorian says everyone gets in and there is no reduction in immigration for 10 years.
https://www.alipac.us/f12/wh-plan-bi...2027-a-354966/
Mark Krikorian
@MarkSKrikorian
Time to start burning your #MAGA hats. Send pictures and I'll retweet.
‘Extremely Bad Idea:’ WH Plan Expands U.S. Citizenship for Illegal Aliens to Potentially Uncontrollable Levels
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January 25, 2018
John Binder
Details of a White House plan revealed on Thursday expands the number of illegal aliens who would be eligible for a pathway to U.S. citizenship far beyond the nearly 800,000 illegal aliens enrolled in the President Obama-created Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.
According to senior adviser Stephen Miller, the White House will push for a deal on immigration that gives a pathway to U.S. citizenship for 1.8 million illegal aliens who are enrolled and eligible for Obama’s DACA program.
Previously, the White House had endorsed a plan that would only give legal status to the nearly 800,000 illegal aliens who are currently enrolled in DACA. But the new plan revealed by Miller expands that measure to include more than one million additional illegal aliens who will not only receive immediate amnesty, but eventually a pathway to citizenship.
Kansas Secretary of State and gubernatorial candidate Kris Kobach called the White House plan to push for U.S. citizenship for 1.8 million eligible illegal aliens an “extremely bad idea.”
“Expanding the pool of amnesty recipients to aliens beyond those who have already obtained DACA is an extremely bad idea,” Kobach told Breitbart News.
Kobach explained two different reasons to Breitbart News why giving a pathway to citizenship to illegal aliens beyond those who are enrolled in DACA is uncontrollable.
First, Kobach says there is “high probability” that there will be massive fraud in terms of non-eligible illegal aliens fraudulently filing false applications to receive the amnesty.
For example, following the 1986 amnesty, it is estimated that of 2.7 million illegal aliens who got amnesty, at least 700,000 of those amnesty recipients fraudulently got legal status.
Secondly, Kobach says a future White House administration can simply “wave or override” the requirements that allege to keep the Trump administration’s amnesty plan contained to the 1.8 million eligible illegal aliens. A maneuver whereby the amnesty requirements are waved could lead to an amnesty for the majority of the 12 to 30 million illegal aliens currently in the country.
The expansive amnesty plan with potentially uncontrollable limits to which illegal aliens can receive the amnesty is expected to be fully released in detail next week and sent to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) for consideration.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...llable-levels/
Not to sound judgemental, but it looks like the one in the blue shirt, holding the baby, has been living high off the hog here in the states. No wonder why these people refuse to leave. We've been too good to them. It's time that stops.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach
Related:
Trump's Plan For DACA Amnesty Greater Than Obama's
https://www.alipac.us/f9/trumps-plan...obamas-354971/
From This- They have to go
https://youtu.be/L01yYp3vTbA
https://youtu.be/L01yYp3vTbA
To This -
AUDIO: We want to do great job for DACA...citizenship
https://soundcloud.com/breitbart/pre...anuary-24-2018
Trump says DACA recipients should be able to stay in the US
January 25, 2018
Joe Kernen, CNBC
President Donald Trump told CNBC on Thursday that undocumented young people in the United States should be able to stay in the country.
"These are good people. These are good people that should be able to stay in this country," he said in an exclusive interview at the World Economic Forum in Davos.
In a snippet aired on NBC's "Nightly News," Trump said that he would consider it a "great achievement" to find a solution for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals — a program that his administration ended in September. DACA protects about 700,000 undocumented immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children.
Later Thursday, a Republican source told CNBC that the White House is expected to support a path to citizenship for 1.8 million young undocumented immigrants who were either shielded by DACA, or eligible for the Obama-era program.
Programming note: CNBC's full interview of President Trump will air on "Squawk Box" at 6 a.m. ET Friday
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/25/trum...in-the-us.html
Bingo! We have a winner. You're exactly right, Motivated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Motivated
White House Proposal:
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Been trying to call the White House comment line but it is always busy so I suspect a lot of people are upset. Schumer is showing that he is trickier than Trump---not surprising since the Democrats are lawyers and they have also bluffed out the GOP a number of times before on shutdowns.
There is already funding for a border wall from 2006 so this should not even be on the agenda. Trump is getting bluffed into thinking he either reneges on his promise (Wall) or Schumer gets his way. It should be Everify in there (for the workers) and end chain migration as the most critical things.
Extremely disappointed in Stephen Miller since he seems to have had a hand in this very bad Trump amnesty plan. This is something I would have expected from Trump and General Kelly, but it's not something I expected from Stephen Miller! Miller is pushing this program, which means he obviously supports it.
How did 800,000 daca (many we know lied on application or are involved with criminal activity) get to 1.8 million. Who else is included in that figure?
artist, they are expanding it to a larger group of the so called "dreamers," far beyond the smaller group of DACA illegal aliens. It will go up to millions more.Quote:
Originally Posted by artist
Something very fishy @ 1.8m. If 800,000 signed up - who comprises suddenly over 2x as many? Do they no longer have to have been brought by a parent which is the battle cry for dreamers "thru no fault of their own" being here?
If trump has enlarged this to accept anyone in a certain age bracket, been here since a certain year, well they are going to have 4 million more added on before the ink is dry on this stupid anti-American citizen move.
trump apparently has no scruples and is a liar.