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    Hillary And Illegal Immigration (Opinion)

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    Hillary and Illegal Immigration

    5-13-2005
    By Froma Harrop

    Hillary gets it. Hillary Clinton says she's against illegal immigration. And she would fine employers who hire illegal aliens.

    Pundits say the New York Democrat is using this hot-button issue to position herself for the 2008 presidential election. It's a way to hit Republicans from the right. Polls show huge majorities of both Republicans and Democrats oppose illegal immigration -- and are frustrated that President Bush won't do a thing to stop it.

    But this issue does not belong to the right. Or it shouldn't. Illegal immigration hurts most liberal causes. It depresses wages, crushes unions and kills all hope for universal health coverage. Progressives have to understand that there can be little social justice in an unregulated labor market.

    "Liberals are so confused on this issue," says Vernon Briggs, a labor economist at Cornell University and self-described liberal. "Immigration policy has got to be held accountable for its economic consequences."

    Many Democrats used to get it. In 1964, President Johnson abolished the Bracero program, which brought in "temporary" farm workers from Mexico. Its demise let Cesar Chavez organize U.S. farm workers. His union won some battles early on, but a new wave of illegal immigrants in the mid-1970s reversed that progress. The union barely exists today.

    It's long been a felony offense for a foreign national to enter the United States illegally. And until 1952, it was also a felony to harbor an illegal alien. That's when farm interests had the law changed to take employers off the hook: Employing an illegal alien no longer constituted "harboring" one. This came to be known as the "Texas Proviso."

    As factory jobs vanished and illegal immigration swelled in the 1970s, Jimmy Carter, a Democrat, sensed a growing crisis. Then came the flood of refugees from Cuba and Haiti -- most claiming political asylum. Carter refused to give blanket amnesty. The refugees were taken care of in 1986, when Republican Ronald Reagan granted a blanket amnesty for 3 million illegals.

    Carter also tried to repeal the Texas Proviso. Congress stalled and instead set up a commission to study the matter. It was chaired by the Rev. Theodore Hesburgh, then president of the University of Notre Dame.

    U.S. immigration policy was "out of control," the panel announced. It minced no words: "The commission has rejected the argument of many economists, ethnic groups and religious leaders for a great expansion in number of immigrants and refugees."

    Shortly thereafter, Carter lost his bid for re-election. Reagan became too busy cutting taxes for the rich to bother with the commission's recommendations. (Besides, isn't cheap labor another kind of tax cut?)

    The cause was taken up by Sen. Alan Simpson, R-Wyo., and Rep. Romano Mazzoli, D-Ky. In 1986, they pushed through legislation that repealed the Texas Proviso. It established fines for employers who knowingly hire illegals. But there was a titanic loophole: Employers did not have to check whether the documents presented by job applicants were valid or fake.

    By 1991, America was in a recession. The economy had lost a million jobs. That year, the current president's father, George H.W. Bush, signed a law that raised annual legal immigration by 35 percent to 700,000. And it did nothing about illegal entrants.

    Congress in 1990 had established another commission to study the problem. This one was headed by Barbara Jordan, a Democrat who had represented Texas in the House of Representatives. The Jordan Commission made excellent recommendations, which went nowhere. One would have required employers to make a single phone call to verify a job applicant's Social Security number. Even that was too much.

    The rationale for the 1986 amnesty (we've had seven since then) is that we had been sending illegal immigrants mixed messages. After all, it had been previously legal for employers to hire them.

    Nowadays, the messages aren't even mixed anymore. A cheap-labor Republican, George Bush won't enforce the employer penalties. He has a new amnesty program. And he vows to "match any willing worker with any willing employer." Hence, the latest stampede at the southern border.

    Sounds like the Democrats have an issue. And if Clinton can seriously address the problem in non-racial terms, she could march straight to the White House. Go for it, Hillary.

    ©2005 Providence Journal Co. Distributed by Creators Syndicate
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    I hoped to never see Hillary or Tipper disgracing the White House again. But, it's tempting to consider changing parties if she is all we have left, to clamp down on immgration. Of course Tom Tancredo has my vote if he runs!
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    This women scares the heck out of me.
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    This women scares the heck out of me.

    She scares a lot of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlesoakisland
    This women scares the heck out of me.
    She is rather sleazy. In a lizard kind of way.
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    Re: Hillary and Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by butterbean
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlesoakisland
    This women scares the heck out of me.
    She is rather sleazy. In a lizard kind of way.
    Now that you put it that way BB. by gosh I think you hit it (her) on the head. (I just deleted the rest of my statement about the male part of that family no need to get myself in hot water today).
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    Re: Hillary and Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlesoakisland
    Quote Originally Posted by butterbean
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlesoakisland
    This women scares the heck out of me.
    She is rather sleazy. In a lizard kind of way.
    Now that you put it that way BB. by gosh I think you hit it (her) on the head. (I just deleted the rest of my statement about the male part of that family no need to get myself in hot water today).
    It kinda ties in with another post. Something about raising alligators?
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    I am for giving her a chance. She CAN'T be worse than Jorge. She does not scare me. Of course I don't scare easy. Run Hillary, Run!!!
    There may not be a United States in 2008. However, if there is I trust her as much as I do anyone else, present company excluded
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    Perhaps I should clarify being scared of her. My fear is based on the damage she could and will do to this country if god forbid she were to get elected.

    If she does we may all want to ask mexico if we can move down south.
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