Thread: Giuliani discusses border fence, illegal immigration

Surprise, surprise, Rudy wants to gut the REAL fence, and he supports pathway amnesty. He is by far the worst of the "major" GOP candidates on illegal immigration IMO. (If this article has been posted previously, my apology.)
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Giuliani discusses border fence, illegal immigration

The Associated Press
Monday, November 19, 2007
MISSION, Texas: Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani said Monday illegal immigration could be stopped within three years, using existing border-enforcement technology.

Giuliani toured part of the border in the Rio Grande Valley with state and local officials, many of whom oppose the 70 miles (113 kilometers) of steel fencing that Congress has authorized for the area.

"If you apply yourself to this over an 18-month or three-year period we could accomplish that, and all of a sudden we'd have I think what we all want to have, which is a country that's open to people from all over the world, but open to people who come in, who have identified themselves and want to participate in building America," Giuliani said.

The former New York City mayor also said that while there are places on the border where a physical fence makes sense, a virtual fence in many areas would be better.

"The virtual fence is more valuable because it alerts you to people approaching the border, it alerts you to people coming over the border," Giuliani said, standing in front of the Rio Grande.

Giuliani did not specifically address the fence issue in the Rio Grande Valley, the most heavily populated portion of the Texas-Mexico border. Opponents, including most local elected officials, say a physical fence would restrict access to the river and hurt their livelihoods, in some cases creating a no man's land between the river and the fence.

A Giuliani spokeswoman, Maria Comella, later said Giuliani has not said anything specific about the Rio Grande Valley and referred back to his comments about the border as a whole.

Giuliani said he would beef up the ranks of the U.S. Border Patrol and create a tamperproof identification card to be used by those wanting to come into the United States for "good reasons, for lawful reasons, either to visit or to study or to work."

Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who has endorsed Giuliani, has said that he disagrees with those who have called for a wall or fence along the entire border but that some fencing in urban areas along the border makes sense.

Giuliani also responded to criticisms that he governed New York as a "sanctuary city" that did not enforce immigration laws and instructed police and other governmental agencies not to inquire about a person's immigration status when providing services.

Giuliani said New York City went from being a crime capital to one of the safest cities in the U.S. when he was mayor.

"The policies that I utilized with regard to illegal immigration were in the context of overall policies that probably were the most successful in the history of the country in creating an orderly, legal, lawful society," Giuliani said.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/ ... Border.php

How many terrorists are you going to let cross that border in 3 years, Ghouli?

As we know Gooliani's law firm represents the foriegn companies involved with the NAU super highway so he (they) will come up with what ever nonsense to distract from securing our border!

giuliani, NEEEEEEEDS more air time on msm! i think if more people hear this idiots views we should be safe.

As noted, not only does Giuliani want to gut the fence, this (showing Rudy basically shares Bush's views and support of amnesty) was published in the Washington Times a few months ago. We can't let Giuliani get away with these liberal, pro-amnesty "pathway" policies regarding immigration. Spread the word:

"Mr. Giuliani said the rest of the 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens already here can gain a path to citizenship after a waiting period if they register and learn English."

IMO... this is called "SNEAKY!" You are deceiving ANYONE!!!!!!!!!!
We know exactly what is going on!!!

"The virtual fence is more valuable because it alerts you to people approaching the border, it alerts you to people coming over the border,"

Whaaaat?? BUT a fence stops them and stops the need for someone to go chase them down if they aren't already gone. Why would anybody want to confront them when it's not necessary? Does he have a "virtual fence" around his property, I wonder??

Someone please explain why a virtual fence is "more valuable" than a REAL fence. How is that possible?? Is he serious? How about a virtual lock on a door? It would alert you to when someone OPENED the door and you could go confront them and maybe their gun. What a moron!

A "virtual fence" is no fence, it's that simple. As Giuliani supports amnesty and wants to gut the fence, IF he gets the GOP nomination, it would be a huge step backwards in our fight against illegal immigration.

Originally Posted by gofer

Someone please explain why a virtual fence is "more valuable" than a REAL fence. How is that possible?? Is he serious? How about a virtual lock on a door? It would alert you to when someone OPENED the door and you could go confront them and maybe their gun. What a moron!

The rich elites in the media and politics think that the middle-class in this country is easily fooled.